When I got the rejection, my wife could tell that I was upset. I wanted to take my daughters to the Pittsburgh shows (we live in Pittsburgh). She said that I don't have to clean the bathroom tonight.
Something feels off. There were people that went 0 for last tour but some of those were people not signing up correctly, credit card issues, etc. Some truly did get shut out but this already feels like a lot more.
I agree, I got both Vancouver shows GA and 1 MSG seated show. However, I see that it’s small leg that got released in 2025 vs 35-37 shows they did 2024 and they released all those dates, people had more options. Opposed to 30k people trying for 10 shows and one of them being a small venue.
However, a lot can happen between January and April where things can change.
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2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
Hugs from a fellow loser here too! 0-2 for Pittsburgh, the only shows I tried for. Had a nice streak going, both Seattle shows and both St. Paul shows. I didn't think about signing up for the Friday sale. Lesson learned for future legs. I'll be traveling day of the sale anyway so I won't be able to watch the screen like a hawk.
When I got the rejection, my wife could tell that I was upset. I wanted to take my daughters to the Pittsburgh shows (we live in Pittsburgh). She said that I don't have to clean the bathroom tonight.
I'll be on the lookout for a set for ya!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Hugs from a fellow loser here too! 0-2 for Pittsburgh, the only shows I tried for. Had a nice streak going, both Seattle shows and both St. Paul shows. I didn't think about signing up for the Friday sale. Lesson learned for future legs. I'll be traveling day of the sale anyway so I won't be able to watch the screen like a hawk.
All good! You can always try with Fan-to-Fan up til day of show (just don't buy Premium!)
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I have no inside knowledge of how this process works but I love to recklessly speculate about things My guess is that they are only doing the lottery once from all entries, then ordering them 1 through whatever, let's say 25000. Then they walk through show by show. For Florida Night 1, they start at #1 and work their way down until all tickets are allotted. Then then go to Florida Night #2 and start at the same #1 entry again and work their way back down. That would make the most sense as to why the distribution is way more 7/8 and 0/8 and why we don't seem to see many 4/8.
Anyway, that's life. On to the Artist Presale!!
Based on all the information we have, this is overwhelmingly likely to be the way they do it, IMO.
its a huge change from the previous days of the lotto ie. independent draws for each show ticket type w priority rankings.
Accounts have to be blacklisted for this to happen.
That is bullshit. Especially seeing people go 10-10. I’m sure you’ll get in. I’ll definitely look out for you, you’ve helped so many people get tickets over the years.
Yeah, help this man and his wife out, if anyone can.
Like nicknyr15 said: They've helped out a lot of people score tickets.
I can almost guarantee that I won’t get selected for the artist presale either. Not that there will be anything worth it in that sale but because TM decided to block me earlier this year for no damn reason it’s going to hinder my account based on some things I’ve read regarding the algorithm. So probably need to start a new account in the future.
10C membership on an annual basis might need revisiting. A T shirt and a very low probability of getting tickets first probably aren’t the best use of funds.
I’ve had to spend way too much time on F2F to get tickets to a couple of shows, meanwhile I see lots of people touting 4 out of 5 or 3 for 3 records each year. There’s something off about it. I get that no system is likely to satisfy all, but what we seem to have now is a system that satisfies a few…
Seattle 8-8-18 Chicago 8-18-18 Chicago 8-20-18 St. Louis 4-4-20 Denver 4-9-20 Denver 9-22-22 Noblesville 9-10-23 Vancouver 5-6-24 Seattle 5-30-24
I guess 30 continuous years in Ten Club don't mean shit.
Why do so many people who've been in the Ten Club for so long have no idea how this has worked for the entire time they've been in the Ten Club? These posts come up over and over again, often from people with five posts or fewer.
LOL...Huge fans can't be upset?
The point is not that they're upset. The point is that they somehow have missed the fact that seniority in the Ten Club has never been a factor in whether you get tickets in the lottery.
I can almost guarantee that I won’t get selected for the artist presale either. Not that there will be anything worth it in that sale but because TM decided to block me earlier this year for no damn reason it’s going to hinder my account based on some things I’ve read regarding the algorithm. So probably need to start a new account in the future.
There isn’t a code for the presale. I entered my info for the presale and when I went back to look at my selections it shows the dates I selected and underneath it says no code required.
2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
My wife and I saw Barry Manilow just this past summer. Tickets only cost us $8 each.
Does that make me a loser?
No id say your smart $8 is worth it and you get more $ for drinks and food! If you spend $200 for a ticket for MSG drinks cost above $20 in the building guess what your night at the PJ show cost close to $300 never mind the food
MSG $46 for 2 Coors Light
That’s a robbery and I paid the same that night with a smile on my face and asked can I have some more 😂 screw that! That was my last show at the overrated greatest arena in the world
I can almost guarantee that I won’t get selected for the artist presale either. Not that there will be anything worth it in that sale but because TM decided to block me earlier this year for no damn reason it’s going to hinder my account based on some things I’ve read regarding the algorithm. So probably need to start a new account in the future.
Me and none of my friends ever got the Artist Presale after we entered. I think I read Ticketmaster holds back 70% of the tickets of desired artists, the greed is insane.
10C membership on an annual basis might need revisiting. A T shirt and a very low probability of getting tickets first probably aren’t the best use of funds. …
You don't get a T-shirt anymore. Have to buy separately for additional $20 if you want it.
10C membership on an annual basis might need revisiting. A T shirt and a very low probability of getting tickets first probably aren’t the best use of funds. …
You don't get a T-shirt anymore. Have to buy separately for additional $20 if you want it.
I guess 30 continuous years in Ten Club don't mean shit.
Why do so many people who've been in the Ten Club for so long have no idea how this has worked for the entire time they've been in the Ten Club? These posts come up over and over again, often from people with five posts or fewer.
LOL...Huge fans can't be upset?
The point is not that they're upset. The point is that they somehow have missed the fact that seniority in the Ten Club has never been a factor in whether you get tickets in the lottery.
They're just expressing frustration. It doesn't require a careful reading followed by a correction.
10C membership on an annual basis might need revisiting. A T shirt and a very low probability of getting tickets first probably aren’t the best use of funds. …
You don't get a T-shirt anymore. Have to buy separately for additional $20 if you want it.
This year’s is an easy pass..
Newsletter says it is "an expertly designed 10 club emblem". Makes me think one of the kids of one of the band members designed it.
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
Yes, you can't list the tickets for anything less or more than face value. This also includes the premium tickets if people list those.
2003 Clarkston MI #2 | 2004 Grand Rapids MI | 2013 London ON | 2014 Detroit MI | 2016 Toronto ON #1
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
Yeah, but you really got to be probably luckier than it takes to win a 10c lottery to snag them once someone puts them up. People camp them.
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
Yes, you can't list the tickets for anything less or more than face value. This also includes the premium tickets if people list those.
Have you been successful in the past in obtaining tickets? I assumed I would get lottery tickets and did not register for the presale (my incompetence). I live in Pittsburgh and want to take one daughter to first show and second daughter to the second show.
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
Yes, 10c club tickets have to be face value. Any ticket of out that scope you can sell for how much you like.
so if someone throws out GA’s they will be 185 a piece.
You have to be on TM all the time during F2F season. It’s easy if you have a work from home job, no dependents and no other responsibilities.
Some people love it and some people can’t be bothered.
i saw GAs pop up for Montana last year and there were a lot.
2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
Definitely for heavy demand shows and big markets. But in some markets upper level tickets can be tough to move especially when Ticketmaster will price their tickets in the same section just below yours.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
Yes, you can't list the tickets for anything less or more than face value. This also includes the premium tickets if people list those.
Have you been successful in the past in obtaining tickets? I assumed I would get lottery tickets and did not register for the presale (my incompetence). I live in Pittsburgh and want to take one daughter to first show and second daughter to the second show.
I've never been successful in obtaning F2F for Pearl Jam. The Cure did a similar thing for their tour last year and I made many, many, many attempts. Most times things would not even go in my cart, or if they did I was unable to complete the check out process. Eventually I did wind up with a successful order but the amount of time and effort that went into that was of an extremely questionable level. Amazing show, though.
2003 Clarkston MI #2 | 2004 Grand Rapids MI | 2013 London ON | 2014 Detroit MI | 2016 Toronto ON #1
I'm in the club, but i honestly expected this. They have made it too easy to just "enter them all and see what happens!" when you can sell them back for full face value in literal seconds once it f2f opens.
I have never used f2f. are tickets sold at face value?
Yes, you can't list the tickets for anything less or more than face value. This also includes the premium tickets if people list those.
Have you been successful in the past in obtaining tickets? I assumed I would get lottery tickets and did not register for the presale (my incompetence). I live in Pittsburgh and want to take one daughter to first show and second daughter to the second show.
I've never been successful in obtaning F2F for Pearl Jam. The Cure did a similar thing for their tour last year and I made many, many, many attempts. Most times things would not even go in my cart, or if they did I was unable to complete the check out process. Eventually I did wind up with a successful order but the amount of time and effort that went into that was of an extremely questionable level. Amazing show, though.
That’s key right there, the dedication to F2F some people like it some people don’t.
i think the club has a good set up, they gave away their allotted seats and now it’s up to the fans to do the rest if they want to get in a show
2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
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Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
need odds and first choice etc brought back
Limit on shows per member till all get one etc
plus hey ed take off the hat
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
It's a bit hurtful when I can't get tickets and yet there are some people who won 4,5,6, or even 7 shows. How is that fair?
Anyway, I guess being part of the Tenclub for a long time (28 years?) is actually a disadvantage now.
its a huge change from the previous days of the lotto ie. independent draws for each show ticket type w priority rankings.
Like nicknyr15 said: They've helped out a lot of people score tickets.
I’ve had to spend way too much time on F2F to get tickets to a couple of shows, meanwhile I see lots of people touting 4 out of 5 or 3 for 3 records each year. There’s something off about it. I get that no system is likely to satisfy all, but what we seem to have now is a system that satisfies a few…
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Seattle 5-30-24
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I think I read Ticketmaster holds back 70% of the tickets of desired artists, the greed is insane.
Have to buy separately for additional $20 if you want it.
so if someone throws out GA’s they will be 185 a piece.
Some people love it and some people can’t be bothered.
i saw GAs pop up for Montana last year and there were a lot.
ISO Hollywood & Nashville 2 tickets. PM me to coordinate a drop!
i think the club has a good set up, they gave away their allotted seats and now it’s up to the fans to do the rest if they want to get in a show