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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Back of GA in Pittsburgh on night 2 is going to be a party. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    josevolution said:
    Is there a show tonight 
    Yes. Last 3 episodes of Andor. I'm fucking pumped.
  • Hurls15
    Hurls15 Posts: 228
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    Yeah, this system isn't flawed.
    I know people who have stood at the rail for the last 6 shows. In a lottery system.

    I know people who haven't won the Pearl Jam lottery for tickets, in 10 years
     Not once.

    Yeah this system isn't flawed. 

    This is the question I have.  I don't have any ill will to anyone that is going to put in the effort to camp out and be in the first 20 people in line (as long as anyone and everyone who gets in that line gets their spot and isn't bumped down because they aren't in the friend group). I may think they are crazy to do this repeatedly for years, but that's not the issue.

    The honest question I have is how do the same people get GA tix to every show in this lottery system.  It's a mathematical improbability for everyone to get GA for every show. How does this happen? I have trouble believing that there isn't some gaming of the system going on here.  Whether scalping their fanclub tickets to fund GA secondary market purchases or something else.  I really genuinely would like to know.  I do know that trying to get ten GA pairs for a random group of ten of us in here would be next to impossible without a thumb on the scale. 
  • reedrothchild
    reedrothchild Posts: 635
    I remember when we are all just happy to get into the show. You got to choose one show to get Ten Club tickets to and it was incredible and if you didn’t get them you still had a blast. And you made friends hanging out at meetups exploring cool spots in new cities. This system of prelining up before the line is allowed to form and then sitting in line for days just makes the fanbase look embarrassing…
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    Hurls15 said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    Yeah, this system isn't flawed.
    I know people who have stood at the rail for the last 6 shows. In a lottery system.

    I know people who haven't won the Pearl Jam lottery for tickets, in 10 years
     Not once.

    Yeah this system isn't flawed. 

    This is the question I have.  I don't have any ill will to anyone that is going to put in the effort to camp out and be in the first 20 people in line (as long as anyone and everyone who gets in that line gets their spot and isn't bumped down because they aren't in the friend group). I may think they are crazy to do this repeatedly for years, but that's not the issue.

    The honest question I have is how do the same people get GA tix to every show in this lottery system.  It's a mathematical improbability for everyone to get GA for every show. How does this happen? I have trouble believing that there isn't some gaming of the system going on here.  Whether scalping their fanclub tickets to fund GA secondary market purchases or something else.  I really genuinely would like to know.  I do know that trying to get ten GA pairs for a random group of ten of us in here would be next to impossible without a thumb on the scale. 
    I’ve posed this same question.  The math just doesn’t compute. 
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,687
    pjhawks said:
    Hurls15 said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    Yeah, this system isn't flawed.
    I know people who have stood at the rail for the last 6 shows. In a lottery system.

    I know people who haven't won the Pearl Jam lottery for tickets, in 10 years
     Not once.

    Yeah this system isn't flawed. 

    This is the question I have.  I don't have any ill will to anyone that is going to put in the effort to camp out and be in the first 20 people in line (as long as anyone and everyone who gets in that line gets their spot and isn't bumped down because they aren't in the friend group). I may think they are crazy to do this repeatedly for years, but that's not the issue.

    The honest question I have is how do the same people get GA tix to every show in this lottery system.  It's a mathematical improbability for everyone to get GA for every show. How does this happen? I have trouble believing that there isn't some gaming of the system going on here.  Whether scalping their fanclub tickets to fund GA secondary market purchases or something else.  I really genuinely would like to know.  I do know that trying to get ten GA pairs for a random group of ten of us in here would be next to impossible without a thumb on the scale. 
    I’ve posed this same question.  The math just doesn’t compute. 

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I think if someone is willing to sit on a city street for 40 hours you might be underestimating their will to grind out getting GA tickets. It's not thaaat hard especially if you know a bunch of people.
  • Hurls15
    Hurls15 Posts: 228
    pjl44 said:
    I think if someone is willing to sit on a city street for 40 hours you might be underestimating their will to grind out getting GA tickets. It's not thaaat hard especially if you know a bunch of people.
    Tell that to the MANY on here that have been grinding for tix (GA, upgrades or otherwise) for months.  It's pretty hard this tour. 
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,997
    Hurls15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I think if someone is willing to sit on a city street for 40 hours you might be underestimating their will to grind out getting GA tickets. It's not thaaat hard especially if you know a bunch of people.
    Tell that to the MANY on here that have been grinding for tix (GA, upgrades or otherwise) for months.  It's pretty hard this tour. 
    depends which show too
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
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  • Hurls15
    Hurls15 Posts: 228
    SVRDhand13 said:
    Hurls15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I think if someone is willing to sit on a city street for 40 hours you might be underestimating their will to grind out getting GA tickets. It's not thaaat hard especially if you know a bunch of people.
    Tell that to the MANY on here that have been grinding for tix (GA, upgrades or otherwise) for months.  It's pretty hard this tour. 
    depends which show too
    Fair point.  I have Pittsburgh on the mind. 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    Hurls15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I think if someone is willing to sit on a city street for 40 hours you might be underestimating their will to grind out getting GA tickets. It's not thaaat hard especially if you know a bunch of people.
    Tell that to the MANY on here that have been grinding for tix (GA, upgrades or otherwise) for months.  It's pretty hard this tour. 
    I'm not sure how the system goes at this point.  
    But what if you have a group of 40 or so people in contact.  Can they have memberships for them and family members?  Over-buy and they have all sorts of inventory to trade amongst themselves.  
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    Don’t overthink it… extras always pop up if you are near the venue last minute

    gotta have the stomach for it… we all want them assp

    wait 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    pjhawks said:
    Hurls15 said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    Yeah, this system isn't flawed.
    I know people who have stood at the rail for the last 6 shows. In a lottery system.

    I know people who haven't won the Pearl Jam lottery for tickets, in 10 years
     Not once.

    Yeah this system isn't flawed. 

    This is the question I have.  I don't have any ill will to anyone that is going to put in the effort to camp out and be in the first 20 people in line (as long as anyone and everyone who gets in that line gets their spot and isn't bumped down because they aren't in the friend group). I may think they are crazy to do this repeatedly for years, but that's not the issue.

    The honest question I have is how do the same people get GA tix to every show in this lottery system.  It's a mathematical improbability for everyone to get GA for every show. How does this happen? I have trouble believing that there isn't some gaming of the system going on here.  Whether scalping their fanclub tickets to fund GA secondary market purchases or something else.  I really genuinely would like to know.  I do know that trying to get ten GA pairs for a random group of ten of us in here would be next to impossible without a thumb on the scale. 
    I’ve posed this same question.  The math just doesn’t compute. 

    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,703
    who gives a shit? never had GA, could care less. If people can afford taking time off work/retired/decide this month they want to follow the band they love......who cares? Don't blame the people who still love the music and want to see it live and have a good time. If there isa problem with the system for tickets.... how long until we all run out of breath and logging in with limited but maybe fair options... Only PJ can do something about it all these years later... every view is fine...... it's music 
    1998 Dallas (7/5) 2006 San Fran (7/15,7/16) 2009 San Fran (8/28) 2010 Bristow (5/13) NY (5/21) 2011 Alpine Valley (9/3,9/4)
    2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
    2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
    2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)
    E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12)
    Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby


  • JK109224
    JK109224 Posts: 644
    This isn't complicated.

    If you line up first, you go in first. If you want to be closer, line up earlier. No one owes anyone else anything.

    Welcome to a basic human life.
    Come to send, not condescend...
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    Hurls15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I think if someone is willing to sit on a city street for 40 hours you might be underestimating their will to grind out getting GA tickets. It's not thaaat hard especially if you know a bunch of people.
    Tell that to the MANY on here that have been grinding for tix (GA, upgrades or otherwise) for months.  It's pretty hard this tour. 
    The MANY people grinding on here are not in the special club.  
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,703
    pearl Jam was once about music and importance,...... now....  it's just people with a point of view I battle you in discussion... what happened to enjoyment and music? love this band, weird fans these days 
    1998 Dallas (7/5) 2006 San Fran (7/15,7/16) 2009 San Fran (8/28) 2010 Bristow (5/13) NY (5/21) 2011 Alpine Valley (9/3,9/4)
    2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
    2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
    2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)
    E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12)
    Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby


  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    Attaway77 said:
    pearl Jam was once about music and importance,...... now....  it's just people with a point of view I battle you in discussion... what happened to enjoyment and music? love this band, weird fans these days 
    I’ve said it numerous times, the fans are one of the best things about this band, while simultaneously being the absolute worst thing about the band.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited May 14
    Attaway77 said:
    pearl Jam was once about music and importance,...... now....  it's just people with a point of view I battle you in discussion... what happened to enjoyment and music? love this band, weird fans these days 
    I was lucky enough to get to some shows on this tour, and man... this thread especially has driven home how nice it was to get out & be around people in person and away from the bullshit of this forum for a while. The enjoyment and music is still there for those who want it. 

    Weird fans indeed. 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    elvistheking44 said:
    Attaway77 said:
    pearl Jam was once about music and importance,...... now....  it's just people with a point of view I battle you in discussion... what happened to enjoyment and music? love this band, weird fans these days 
    I’ve said it numerous times, the fans are one of the best things about this band, while simultaneously being the absolute worst thing about the band.
    Truer words have never been spoken

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