#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

mickeyrat · January 21

lindamarie73 said:

mickeyrat said:

https://www.threads.net/@nbcwashington/post/DFECDubxzQA?xmt=AQGzOm7lJ5bRMWzwaDwcC5SBwgAx3NtpR0-afruyozXucQ

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mickeyrat · January 21

your piece of shit precedent at work. guess these poor suckers shouldn't have believed us. andcwere too poor to offer a tithe to herr leader...

https://www.threads.net/@houseforeign/post/DFEU5uKNJdr?xmt=AQGzrfa2tdH8n9ATfFYQmBWvryYpK8BFYZqIKxJAzoIxeg

mickeyrat · January 21

video. WHEN THEY TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM.

https://www.threads.net/@theartcandee/post/DFDr8LTMywE?xmt=AQGzhMy-fMu8qQ4Gi5kx0WBHeAOobe-WWfHNvWOJMd7Uow

mickeyrat · January 21

mickeyrat said:

for the defenders/apologists here....

https://www.threads.net/@groovycathers2/post/DFFDayoI6a5?xmt=AQGzX_rLTOC-jll2FNFyBX1lIMCMPTkyfBMPpBT9ReYDTA

add these folks to the list....

https://www.threads.net/@therickwilson/post/DFFtIJqOw33?xmt=AQGzOP7GdwAyKM1A8LYVzBDt8u4yevA7NbgoM2yHcXYRKQ

Halifax2TheMax · January 21

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/what-to-know-pardons-january-6-trump/index.html

Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years...now pardoned.

The article says there were still a few that have not been pardoned. I'm curious as to who they are, what they did.

What a pathetic leader.

And already we have China commenting about the US withdrawal from WHO. It's just so laughable.

I know we expected this but it's still odd to see it actually happening.

Odd? That’s putting it mildly. It’s fucking embarrassing. How’d you like to be an Afghan who fought for ‘Murica and be betrayed? Maybe feel like strapping on a suicide vest or going on a shooting rampage somewhere? Who the fuck is going to trust ‘Murica again? Oh yea, Putin on the ritz, that’s who.

Gern Blansten · January 21

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Halifax2TheMax · January 21

Gern Blansten said:

Good ol Lindsey Flimsey flip flop Faloozy and his service to his country. Makes ya proud, don’t it?

mace1229 · January 21

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

lindamarie73 · January 21

mickeyrat said:

lindamarie73 said:

mickeyrat said:

https://www.threads.net/@nbcwashington/post/DFECDubxzQA?xmt=AQGzOm7lJ5bRMWzwaDwcC5SBwgAx3NtpR0-afruyozXucQ

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Tim Simmons · January 21

mace1229 said:
mickeyrat said:
HughFreakingDillon said:
I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

dude. come on.

most people would cup the heart and extend it outward like opening a door. No one extends it out in a 45 degree angle. At best he's hes trying to be a try hard edgelord and piss some people off because he knows there won't be any consequences, at worst, well we're in for a hell of a ride...

Gern Blansten · January 21

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

lol...so we give him that...still one of the stupidest gestures in the history of politics

Get_Right · January 21

Well Trump just threw a number of Executive Orders against the wall on day one. They do not have the power of law, but they set in motion a number of potential tariffs and actions. He is well counseled. Most of his actions in the past have withstood judicial scrutiny. The USTR will be busy this year. You may agree or disagree with his actions, but my objective point of view is that he knows what he is doing.

Gern Blansten · January 21

Get_Right said:

Well Trump just threw a number of Executive Orders against the wall on day one. They do not have the power of law, but they set in motion a number of potential tariffs and actions. He is well counseled. Most of his actions in the past have withstood judicial scrutiny. The USTR will be busy this year. You may agree or disagree with his actions, but my objective point of view is that he knows what he is doing.

Your point of view is messed up then. You can't EO away a constitutional right.

Hawk123 · January 21

If it was a my heart goes out to you gesture, it was super awkward but he looked really comfortable and confident making it look like a Nazi salute so I’m sure he’s done that one many times before.

Gern Blansten · January 21

Magats are defending him saying "it's a Roman salute" like we are all idiots for not seeing what it really is.

mickeyrat · January 21

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

snaps the salute TWICE crowd goes nuts in approval. THEN puts his hand over his heart a third time to make that statement..

as you said. context.

Tim Simmons · January 21

Gern Blansten said:

Magats are defending him saying "it's a Roman salute" like we are all idiots for not seeing what it really is.

A Roman salute isn’t much better.

Tim Simmons · January 21

If he’s not into Nazi shit, he can stop being weird at anytime.

Tim Simmons · January 21

Case in point, you can just say my heart goes out to you and wait for the applause. You don't HAVE to do weird shit like this. Or jump around or whatever.

mickeyrat · January 21

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mace1229 · January 21

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:
mickeyrat said:
HughFreakingDillon said:
I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

dude. come on.

most people would cup the heart and extend it outward like opening a door. No one extends it out in a 45 degree angle. At best he's hes trying to be a try hard edgelord and piss some people off because he knows there won't be any consequences, at worst, well we're in for a hell of a ride...

It's a stupid way to gesture that. But I just don't see someone trying to secretly give the nazi salute while saying "My heart goes out to you." They really don't go together. It being what he says makes more sense than him trying to secretly give off the nazi salute.

mace1229 · January 21

Tim Simmons said:

Case in point, you can just say my heart goes out to you and wait for the applause. You don't HAVE to do weird shit like this. Or jump around or whatever.

It definitely was weird. Not arguing that. But if I have to decide being weird or a hidden nazi salute, given the context, I'm going with weird.

mace1229 · January 21

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

snaps the salute TWICE crowd goes nuts in approval. THEN puts his hand over his heart a third time to make that statement..

as you said. context.

The clip you shared shows him putting his hand over his heart each time.

HughFreakingDillon · January 21

Merkin Baller · January 21

Does the context of Musk pushing far right views like replacement theory on social media factor into this, or are we only looking at this one incident in a vacuum?

mickeyrat · January 21

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

snaps the salute TWICE crowd goes nuts in approval. THEN puts his hand over his heart a third time to make that statement..

as you said. context.

The clip you shared shows him putting his hand over his heart each time.

and what exactly did he do the first two times? because you pointing out he said my heart goes out to you was the end of the clip.

all good though.

I see you.

Go Beavers · January 21

Merkin Baller said:

Does the context of Musk pushing far right views like replacement theory on social media factor into this, or are we only looking at this one incident in a vacuum?

Exactly. It fits in with his other bigoted anti-semitic crap.

mace1229 · January 21

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

snaps the salute TWICE crowd goes nuts in approval. THEN puts his hand over his heart a third time to make that statement..

as you said. context.

The clip you shared shows him putting his hand over his heart each time.

and what exactly did he do the first two times? because you pointing out he said my heart goes out to you was the end of the clip.

all good though.

I see you.

Not sure if you hacked into my camera or what that means, but ok.
I don't recall the nazi salute starting with a hand over the heart. You said he saluted twice, THEN put his hand over his heart. That is incorrect, he did it each time. And the third time says "My heart goes out to you." Definitely weird. But if you ask me was he just being socially awkward, or doing a very poor disguise of a nazi salute, I'm going with awkward.
Why put the hand over the heart? Why say "my heart goes out to you"? Did he forget he was on TV and that's what he came up with on the spot?
Neither of us knows for sure. You have your opinion and I have mine.

HughFreakingDillon · January 21

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I’m all for calling this shit out when warranted, but simply raising one’s hand does not automatically make a nazi salute. We all know how a snapshot can be used to manipulate. Is there video of a prolonged heil?

yes. slaps his left chest with his right hand and immediately snaps out. THEN turns around for the folks behind and does it again.
judge for yourself.
https://www.threads.net/@marcbroklawski/post/DFEEQVwSXls?xmt=AQGzM_ehLeF_j3Og3cIylDhm_HU2XX7q0PhJMnH715S-tw

I first watched without audio and thought that's clearly what he's doing.
Then I watched with the audio and he's saying "my heart goes out to you" as he puts his hand over his heart. In context makes a big difference.

snaps the salute TWICE crowd goes nuts in approval. THEN puts his hand over his heart a third time to make that statement..

as you said. context.

The clip you shared shows him putting his hand over his heart each time.

and what exactly did he do the first two times? because you pointing out he said my heart goes out to you was the end of the clip.

all good though.

I see you.

Not sure if you hacked into my camera or what that means, but ok.
I don't recall the nazi salute starting with a hand over the heart. You said he saluted twice, THEN put his hand over his heart. That is incorrect, he did it each time. And the third time says "My heart goes out to you." Definitely weird. But if you ask me was he just being socially awkward, or doing a very poor disguise of a nazi salute, I'm going with awkward.
Why put the hand over the heart? Why say "my heart goes out to you"? Did he forget he was on TV and that's what he came up with on the spot?
Neither of us knows for sure. You have your opinion and I have mine.

musk has a history of support of far right neo nazi individuals and groups.

Halifax2TheMax · January 21

Let the normalization and acceptance begin at double time.

#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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How Trump Plans to Seize the Power of the Purse From Congress

The second-term president likely will seek to cut off spending that lawmakers have already appropriated, setting off a constitutional struggle within the branches. If successful, he could wield the power to punish perceived foes.