Psycho killers/monsters are one thing, but I don't really get the appeal of Freddie. People dress like him and idolize him. Dude was a child molester. I just can't get past that fact. I've always felt that way about him. I mean, cool costume, but for some reason that goes beyond just brutally killing someone like Myers and Jason. I'm wondering if the shirt has gone the way of the vaults.
Incorrect. Wes Craven/Robert Englund's Freddy was a child killer. Not a molester.
In the 2010 remake, he was portrayed as a child molester but most people don't acknowledge that movie because Craven and Englund were not involved.
Just to balance the discussion a bit, even though my post above is in line with yours.
He was originally written/thought out as a child molester. And I think Craven has even stated to him he is one. But anything regarding that was taken out before the shooting script/shooting of the film. Where he is simply described as a murderer. Obviously being (sexually) creepy to the teens in the film, like with the phone-tounge. But it was explicitly chosen to not include him as having molested the kids he had killed. And as a kid I don't remember us ever talking about him as a molester, but merely a killer who got his revenge. But I also don't remember idolizing the character - and I was 10-12. Maybe other kids and older kids saw it as clear as day him being a molester.
In the background of one of the later films (part 5?), there is a clipping describing him as a molester. But that is a prop made by someone, whoever and doesn't have to have even been seen by the director or writer or producer. I am sure New Line even by then wanted to keep him "your friendly neighborhood over-the-top pop culture killer"
Should be noted that it is hard to not interpret Jason as having raped the main character in F13th part 3. I would say that is going "beyond only brutally killing" also. He spares kids ofc though.
Here is Guns N Roses swiping a photograph for a bland Freddy-shirt. I hope when the day comes and we get something Elm Street-referenced PJ's artists doesn't swipe:
I wasn't trying to start some debate on the political correctness of liking Krueger, so you don't have to over the top defend your affinity for him. I mean it's ridiculous because we are talking about horror and it's all horror. I love horror films, but some I just don't like for my own reasons.
I will say that I just watched Winnie the Pooh - Blood and Honey 2 and it was hilarious and disturbing. I guess part 1 was horrible by all accounts. The same film maker is coming out with a Peter Pan movie and has plans to decimate all of the Disney characters when they become public domain.
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Peter Pan and Winnie the Pooh aren’t Disney characters. They were licensed by Disney from the estates of the authors who created them.
Thanks for stating the obvious, but they are closely associated with Disney. Man, some of you are really taking on the comic book store guy persona, "Wellllll, actually..."
Anyway, I saw the graphic on the top of the newsletter and got excited for a second. I thought that graphic might be the new shirt. That would have been cool to do a Halloween shirt in that style.
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Peter Pan and Winnie the Pooh aren’t Disney characters. They were licensed by Disney from the estates of the authors who created them.
Just like Snow White!
Yes but Disney didn’t have to license Snow White. It was already in the public domain. Disney is not unlike these new horror movie makers… they have really exploited the public domain to make some of their biggest hits. Alice in Wonderland, Sleeping Beauty, and The Jungle Book among them. Even Frozen is from the public domain.
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I will say that I just watched Winnie the Pooh - Blood and Honey 2 and it was hilarious and disturbing. I guess part 1 was horrible by all accounts. The same film maker is coming out with a Peter Pan movie and has plans to decimate all of the Disney characters when they become public domain.
1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California
Nothing since then. I suck.2016- Fenway Park, Boston - Both glorious nights
2022- Oakland Night 2
2024 Sacramento, CA
Anyway, I saw the graphic on the top of the newsletter and got excited for a second. I thought that graphic might be the new shirt. That would have been cool to do a Halloween shirt in that style.
1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California
Nothing since then. I suck.2016- Fenway Park, Boston - Both glorious nights
2022- Oakland Night 2
2024 Sacramento, CA
I would totally buy it too.
Put that on a shirt and send to me!
Nuclear fission
Would be cool if the artist was ok & able to release it on a shirt.