Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

Sigh. The words "Orange Man Bad" have never escaped my lips (or fingertips). And the only times I've ever heard them are from Trump supporters purporting to characterize the views of those who don't support Trump. I don't know what's in the minds of those who express themselves this way, but it seems to me that they don't really have a response to many of the criticisms of Trump, so they reduce them to a caricature and ignore the specifics, which are indefensible.

"He tried to steal the last election ("find me 11,780 votes") and still has not conceded it is not "Orange Man Bad." "He attempted to extort a foreign leader to obtain dirt on his political opponent" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to abandon the alliances that have maintained stability and order in much of the world for over 75 years" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to pardon a bunch of traitors who stormed the Capitol" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He completely mishandled a public-health emergency" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He lies, all the time, about everything" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He is a person of the lowest character" is not "Orange Man Bad," though I'll admit that it is "Man Bad," and call me crazy for thinking that we should avoid giving power to bad people. And we're not talking about a person with flaws. We all have flaws. This is a singularly mendacious and self-centered individual. If you cannot see that, you are blind. Or, if you do see that and don't care, you are reckless.

“Orange Man Bad” 

When you say. “Wow! Harris proposed a price control on grocery policy that even liberal publications are saying is right out of the communist playbook.” “I don’t think that’s going to be good for the country.”

Instead of replies disagreeing with a counter argument you get from the usual posters (Jose, Halisak, Gimmesomelies, Germs etc.) “Trump is a rapist, convicted felon, went bankrupt had 3 wives etc etc. etc.” It’s when someone is so far left they are unable to debate an issue so they just pivot to how bad Trump is. That’s what “Orange Man Bad” is. Akin to Whataboutism.

These are people who only vote on emotion. They need the President to be their friend. That’s what the Harris campaign appeals to. Voters who don’t care about policy, are voting for Good Vibes and if Kamala wants to take them down the communist path they will find away to justify its a great idea because their hate of the Orange Man is stronger than what policy may be right for the country.

Character matters to Democrats, not to modern Republicans - who are now the party of Trump, full stop. Character dictates whether someone will exploit the population or serve them. When one of two parties shows itself to have no standards or concern in this regard so long as they get (insert single issue here), their criticism of the other side should and will be ignored. If Democrats are fixated with the guy who denigrated modern US politics, it’s the fault of the party who saw that and asked for more. 

Sure they do. Full of character! Bob Menendez left a gold bar from Egypt for you at will call. 

I don’t know how people in good conscience can post that character matters about politicians. They all suck and anyone who supports and even worse donates to a politician or party is a sucker.

Here is one that should hit home to most of us. As AG Kamala Harris put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana charges, some with very small amounts. When asked if she ever smoked pot, she laughed about it. 

When 90% of your staff quit on you as VP because you’re condescending, a bully and downright mean, would that also represent your character?

When you can’t or won’t take questions from reporters or sit down for an interview when running for the highest job in the country, doesn’t that represent your character? Shouldn’t the public get to hear from her? Not speech writers and handlers?

Please respond how “Orange Man Bad” tho. Unreal.

Hey, notice that Democrats didn't cry "DEEP STATE", 'CROOKED DOJ" when Menendez was indicted.  Notice he was indicted by a D administration?  Notice that not one Democrat here, or basically anywhere supports him?  

Regarding marijuana, are you now against DA's that follow the laws of their state and prosecute people who break them?  This is certainly a turn.  But I can tell you are deep in the right wing ecosystem because that talking point hit Fox late next week.  Way to be a good parrot.  

Notice also that Chucky Baby told him to resign or be forced out and that he was convicted and is likely going to serve time. But you know, “the system ‘ruins’ ‘good people’.”

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

Tim Simmons said:

I think this Biden impeachment investigation is gonna be very bad for his re-election chances.

You know the GOP was really wanting this to be an October surprise...

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

I don’t think his numbers are gonna recover from this regardless.

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

Sigh. The words "Orange Man Bad" have never escaped my lips (or fingertips). And the only times I've ever heard them are from Trump supporters purporting to characterize the views of those who don't support Trump. I don't know what's in the minds of those who express themselves this way, but it seems to me that they don't really have a response to many of the criticisms of Trump, so they reduce them to a caricature and ignore the specifics, which are indefensible.

"He tried to steal the last election ("find me 11,780 votes") and still has not conceded it is not "Orange Man Bad." "He attempted to extort a foreign leader to obtain dirt on his political opponent" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to abandon the alliances that have maintained stability and order in much of the world for over 75 years" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to pardon a bunch of traitors who stormed the Capitol" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He completely mishandled a public-health emergency" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He lies, all the time, about everything" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He is a person of the lowest character" is not "Orange Man Bad," though I'll admit that it is "Man Bad," and call me crazy for thinking that we should avoid giving power to bad people. And we're not talking about a person with flaws. We all have flaws. This is a singularly mendacious and self-centered individual. If you cannot see that, you are blind. Or, if you do see that and don't care, you are reckless.

“Orange Man Bad” 

When you say. “Wow! Harris proposed a price control on grocery policy that even liberal publications are saying is right out of the communist playbook.” “I don’t think that’s going to be good for the country.”

Instead of replies disagreeing with a counter argument you get from the usual posters (Jose, Halisak, Gimmesomelies, Germs etc.) “Trump is a rapist, convicted felon, went bankrupt had 3 wives etc etc. etc.” It’s when someone is so far left they are unable to debate an issue so they just pivot to how bad Trump is. That’s what “Orange Man Bad” is. Akin to Whataboutism.

These are people who only vote on emotion. They need the President to be their friend. That’s what the Harris campaign appeals to. Voters who don’t care about policy, are voting for Good Vibes and if Kamala wants to take them down the communist path they will find away to justify its a great idea because their hate of the Orange Man is stronger than what policy may be right for the country.

Character matters to Democrats, not to modern Republicans - who are now the party of Trump, full stop. Character dictates whether someone will exploit the population or serve them. When one of two parties shows itself to have no standards or concern in this regard so long as they get (insert single issue here), their criticism of the other side should and will be ignored. If Democrats are fixated with the guy who denigrated modern US politics, it’s the fault of the party who saw that and asked for more. 

Sure they do. Full of character! Bob Menendez left a gold bar from Egypt for you at will call. 

I don’t know how people in good conscience can post that character matters about politicians. They all suck and anyone who supports and even worse donates to a politician or party is a sucker.

Here is one that should hit home to most of us. As AG Kamala Harris put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana charges, some with very small amounts. When asked if she ever smoked pot, she laughed about it. 

When 90% of your staff quit on you as VP because you’re condescending, a bully and downright mean, would that also represent your character?

When you can’t or won’t take questions from reporters or sit down for an interview when running for the highest job in the country, doesn’t that represent your character? Shouldn’t the public get to hear from her? Not speech writers and handlers?

Please respond how “Orange Man Bad” tho. Unreal.

Hey, notice that Democrats didn't cry "DEEP STATE", 'CROOKED DOJ" when Menendez was indicted.  Notice he was indicted by a D administration?  Notice that not one Democrat here, or basically anywhere supports him?  

Regarding marijuana, are you now against DA's that follow the laws of their state and prosecute people who break them?  

She is both far left, allowing lawlessness to run wild, and a cop. Multitudes! 

The Juggler

Kamala Harris

Tim Simmons said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

Sigh. The words "Orange Man Bad" have never escaped my lips (or fingertips). And the only times I've ever heard them are from Trump supporters purporting to characterize the views of those who don't support Trump. I don't know what's in the minds of those who express themselves this way, but it seems to me that they don't really have a response to many of the criticisms of Trump, so they reduce them to a caricature and ignore the specifics, which are indefensible.

"He tried to steal the last election ("find me 11,780 votes") and still has not conceded it is not "Orange Man Bad." "He attempted to extort a foreign leader to obtain dirt on his political opponent" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to abandon the alliances that have maintained stability and order in much of the world for over 75 years" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to pardon a bunch of traitors who stormed the Capitol" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He completely mishandled a public-health emergency" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He lies, all the time, about everything" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He is a person of the lowest character" is not "Orange Man Bad," though I'll admit that it is "Man Bad," and call me crazy for thinking that we should avoid giving power to bad people. And we're not talking about a person with flaws. We all have flaws. This is a singularly mendacious and self-centered individual. If you cannot see that, you are blind. Or, if you do see that and don't care, you are reckless.

“Orange Man Bad” 

When you say. “Wow! Harris proposed a price control on grocery policy that even liberal publications are saying is right out of the communist playbook.” “I don’t think that’s going to be good for the country.”

Instead of replies disagreeing with a counter argument you get from the usual posters (Jose, Halisak, Gimmesomelies, Germs etc.) “Trump is a rapist, convicted felon, went bankrupt had 3 wives etc etc. etc.” It’s when someone is so far left they are unable to debate an issue so they just pivot to how bad Trump is. That’s what “Orange Man Bad” is. Akin to Whataboutism.

These are people who only vote on emotion. They need the President to be their friend. That’s what the Harris campaign appeals to. Voters who don’t care about policy, are voting for Good Vibes and if Kamala wants to take them down the communist path they will find away to justify its a great idea because their hate of the Orange Man is stronger than what policy may be right for the country.

Character matters to Democrats, not to modern Republicans - who are now the party of Trump, full stop. Character dictates whether someone will exploit the population or serve them. When one of two parties shows itself to have no standards or concern in this regard so long as they get (insert single issue here), their criticism of the other side should and will be ignored. If Democrats are fixated with the guy who denigrated modern US politics, it’s the fault of the party who saw that and asked for more. 

Sure they do. Full of character! Bob Menendez left a gold bar from Egypt for you at will call. 

I don’t know how people in good conscience can post that character matters about politicians. They all suck and anyone who supports and even worse donates to a politician or party is a sucker.

Here is one that should hit home to most of us. As AG Kamala Harris put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana charges, some with very small amounts. When asked if she ever smoked pot, she laughed about it. 

When 90% of your staff quit on you as VP because you’re condescending, a bully and downright mean, would that also represent your character?

When you can’t or won’t take questions from reporters or sit down for an interview when running for the highest job in the country, doesn’t that represent your character? Shouldn’t the public get to hear from her? Not speech writers and handlers?

Please respond how “Orange Man Bad” tho. Unreal.

Hey, notice that Democrats didn't cry "DEEP STATE", 'CROOKED DOJ" when Menendez was indicted.  Notice he was indicted by a D administration?  Notice that not one Democrat here, or basically anywhere supports him?  

Regarding marijuana, are you now against DA's that follow the laws of their state and prosecute people who break them?  

She is both far left, allowing lawlessness to run wild, and a cop. Multitudes! 

Just like Joe Biden has dementia, while at the same time is an international criminal swindling foreign countries for millions of dollars.

maga! nothing makes sense!

teskeinc

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

Sigh. The words "Orange Man Bad" have never escaped my lips (or fingertips). And the only times I've ever heard them are from Trump supporters purporting to characterize the views of those who don't support Trump. I don't know what's in the minds of those who express themselves this way, but it seems to me that they don't really have a response to many of the criticisms of Trump, so they reduce them to a caricature and ignore the specifics, which are indefensible.

"He tried to steal the last election ("find me 11,780 votes") and still has not conceded it is not "Orange Man Bad." "He attempted to extort a foreign leader to obtain dirt on his political opponent" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to abandon the alliances that have maintained stability and order in much of the world for over 75 years" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to pardon a bunch of traitors who stormed the Capitol" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He completely mishandled a public-health emergency" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He lies, all the time, about everything" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He is a person of the lowest character" is not "Orange Man Bad," though I'll admit that it is "Man Bad," and call me crazy for thinking that we should avoid giving power to bad people. And we're not talking about a person with flaws. We all have flaws. This is a singularly mendacious and self-centered individual. If you cannot see that, you are blind. Or, if you do see that and don't care, you are reckless.

“Orange Man Bad” 

When you say. “Wow! Harris proposed a price control on grocery policy that even liberal publications are saying is right out of the communist playbook.” “I don’t think that’s going to be good for the country.”

Instead of replies disagreeing with a counter argument you get from the usual posters (Jose, Halisak, Gimmesomelies, Germs etc.) “Trump is a rapist, convicted felon, went bankrupt had 3 wives etc etc. etc.” It’s when someone is so far left they are unable to debate an issue so they just pivot to how bad Trump is. That’s what “Orange Man Bad” is. Akin to Whataboutism.

These are people who only vote on emotion. They need the President to be their friend. That’s what the Harris campaign appeals to. Voters who don’t care about policy, are voting for Good Vibes and if Kamala wants to take them down the communist path they will find away to justify its a great idea because their hate of the Orange Man is stronger than what policy may be right for the country.

Character matters to Democrats, not to modern Republicans - who are now the party of Trump, full stop. Character dictates whether someone will exploit the population or serve them. When one of two parties shows itself to have no standards or concern in this regard so long as they get (insert single issue here), their criticism of the other side should and will be ignored. If Democrats are fixated with the guy who denigrated modern US politics, it’s the fault of the party who saw that and asked for more. 

Sure they do. Full of character! Bob Menendez left a gold bar from Egypt for you at will call. 

I don’t know how people in good conscience can post that character matters about politicians. They all suck and anyone who supports and even worse donates to a politician or party is a sucker.

Here is one that should hit home to most of us. As AG Kamala Harris put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana charges, some with very small amounts. When asked if she ever smoked pot, she laughed about it. 

When 90% of your staff quit on you as VP because you’re condescending, a bully and downright mean, would that also represent your character?

When you can’t or won’t take questions from reporters or sit down for an interview when running for the highest job in the country, doesn’t that represent your character? Shouldn’t the public get to hear from her? Not speech writers and handlers?

Please respond how “Orange Man Bad” tho. Unreal.

Hey, notice that Democrats didn't cry "DEEP STATE", 'CROOKED DOJ" when Menendez was indicted.  Notice he was indicted by a D administration?  Notice that not one Democrat here, or basically anywhere supports him?  

Regarding marijuana, are you now against DA's that follow the laws of their state and prosecute people who break them?  This is certainly a turn.  But I can tell you are deep in the right wing ecosystem because that talking point hit Fox late next week.  Way to be a good parrot.  

Late next week? Thursday or Friday? I’ll try to watch. 🤦‍♂️

Philly NJ

Donald Trump

Attention all intellectually honest people: I have noticed that if you present facts of incompetence, wrong-doing, bad policy, etc, of Harris/Biden, expect their supporters to deflect, deny or minimize.  Also, if you present facts from the 3.5 years Harris/Biden have held the White House, expect their supporters to say that is “old” news unless it is favorable to Harris/Biden. But they will go back to the beginning of time with their comments. Hilarious.

Denial is a defense mechanism that can describe when someone refuses to accept objective facts or experiences, especially when it's difficult to integrate them into their current thinking. It's an unconscious process that can protect people from anxiety or discomfort. Denial can be as simple as not believing someone is being truthful, or as complex as avoiding acknowledging weaknesses or desires. 

In psychology, denialism is when someone chooses to deny reality to avoid believing in an uncomfortable truth. It can be an irrational action that prevents someone from validating a historical event or reality that can be empirically verified. 

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

Sigh. The words "Orange Man Bad" have never escaped my lips (or fingertips). And the only times I've ever heard them are from Trump supporters purporting to characterize the views of those who don't support Trump. I don't know what's in the minds of those who express themselves this way, but it seems to me that they don't really have a response to many of the criticisms of Trump, so they reduce them to a caricature and ignore the specifics, which are indefensible.

"He tried to steal the last election ("find me 11,780 votes") and still has not conceded it is not "Orange Man Bad." "He attempted to extort a foreign leader to obtain dirt on his political opponent" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to abandon the alliances that have maintained stability and order in much of the world for over 75 years" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He wants to pardon a bunch of traitors who stormed the Capitol" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He completely mishandled a public-health emergency" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He lies, all the time, about everything" is not "Orange Man Bad." "He is a person of the lowest character" is not "Orange Man Bad," though I'll admit that it is "Man Bad," and call me crazy for thinking that we should avoid giving power to bad people. And we're not talking about a person with flaws. We all have flaws. This is a singularly mendacious and self-centered individual. If you cannot see that, you are blind. Or, if you do see that and don't care, you are reckless.

“Orange Man Bad” 

When you say. “Wow! Harris proposed a price control on grocery policy that even liberal publications are saying is right out of the communist playbook.” “I don’t think that’s going to be good for the country.”

Instead of replies disagreeing with a counter argument you get from the usual posters (Jose, Halisak, Gimmesomelies, Germs etc.) “Trump is a rapist, convicted felon, went bankrupt had 3 wives etc etc. etc.” It’s when someone is so far left they are unable to debate an issue so they just pivot to how bad Trump is. That’s what “Orange Man Bad” is. Akin to Whataboutism.

These are people who only vote on emotion. They need the President to be their friend. That’s what the Harris campaign appeals to. Voters who don’t care about policy, are voting for Good Vibes and if Kamala wants to take them down the communist path they will find away to justify its a great idea because their hate of the Orange Man is stronger than what policy may be right for the country.

Character matters to Democrats, not to modern Republicans - who are now the party of Trump, full stop. Character dictates whether someone will exploit the population or serve them. When one of two parties shows itself to have no standards or concern in this regard so long as they get (insert single issue here), their criticism of the other side should and will be ignored. If Democrats are fixated with the guy who denigrated modern US politics, it’s the fault of the party who saw that and asked for more. 

Sure they do. Full of character! Bob Menendez left a gold bar from Egypt for you at will call. 

I don’t know how people in good conscience can post that character matters about politicians. They all suck and anyone who supports and even worse donates to a politician or party is a sucker.

Here is one that should hit home to most of us. As AG Kamala Harris put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana charges, some with very small amounts. When asked if she ever smoked pot, she laughed about it. 

When 90% of your staff quit on you as VP because you’re condescending, a bully and downright mean, would that also represent your character?

When you can’t or won’t take questions from reporters or sit down for an interview when running for the highest job in the country, doesn’t that represent your character? Shouldn’t the public get to hear from her? Not speech writers and handlers?

Please respond how “Orange Man Bad” tho. Unreal.

Hey, notice that Democrats didn't cry "DEEP STATE", 'CROOKED DOJ" when Menendez was indicted.  Notice he was indicted by a D administration?  Notice that not one Democrat here, or basically anywhere supports him?  

Regarding marijuana, are you now against DA's that follow the laws of their state and prosecute people who break them?  This is certainly a turn.  But I can tell you are deep in the right wing ecosystem because that talking point hit Fox late next week.  Way to be a good parrot.  

Late next week? Thursday or Friday? I’ll try to watch. 🤦‍♂️

Burned.  You got me there. 

Halifax2TheMax

Philly NJ said:

Attention all intellectually honest people: I have noticed that if you present facts of incompetence, wrong-doing, bad policy, etc, of Harris/Biden, expect their supporters to deflect, deny or minimize.  Also, if you present facts from the 3.5 years Harris/Biden have held the White House, expect their supporters to say that is “old” news unless it is favorable to Harris/Biden. But they will go back to the beginning of time with their comments. Hilarious.

Denial is a defense mechanism that can describe when someone refuses to accept objective facts or experiences, especially when it's difficult to integrate them into their current thinking. It's an unconscious process that can protect people from anxiety or discomfort. Denial can be as simple as not believing someone is being truthful, or as complex as avoiding acknowledging weaknesses or desires. 

In psychology, denialism is when someone chooses to deny reality to avoid believing in an uncomfortable truth. It can be an irrational action that prevents someone from validating a historical event or reality that can be empirically verified. 

Did POOTWH lose the 2020 election or was it stolen from them by the “deep state?”

In what year have you determined that you’ll be replaced?

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

Philly NJ said:

Attention all intellectually honest people: I have noticed that if you present facts of incompetence, wrong-doing, bad policy, etc, of Harris/Biden, expect their supporters to deflect, deny or minimize.  Also, if you present facts from the 3.5 years Harris/Biden have held the White House, expect their supporters to say that is “old” news unless it is favorable to Harris/Biden. But they will go back to the beginning of time with their comments. Hilarious.

Denial is a defense mechanism that can describe when someone refuses to accept objective facts or experiences, especially when it's difficult to integrate them into their current thinking. It's an unconscious process that can protect people from anxiety or discomfort. Denial can be as simple as not believing someone is being truthful, or as complex as avoiding acknowledging weaknesses or desires. 

In psychology, denialism is when someone chooses to deny reality to avoid believing in an uncomfortable truth. It can be an irrational action that prevents someone from validating a historical event or reality that can be empirically verified. 

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its not fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

Philly NJ said:

Attention all intellectually honest people: I have noticed that if you present facts of incompetence, wrong-doing, bad policy, etc, of Harris/Biden, expect their supporters to deflect, deny or minimize.  Also, if you present facts from the 3.5 years Harris/Biden have held the White House, expect their supporters to say that is “old” news unless it is favorable to Harris/Biden. But they will go back to the beginning of time with their comments. Hilarious.

Denial is a defense mechanism that can describe when someone refuses to accept objective facts or experiences, especially when it's difficult to integrate them into their current thinking. It's an unconscious process that can protect people from anxiety or discomfort. Denial can be as simple as not believing someone is being truthful, or as complex as avoiding acknowledging weaknesses or desires. 

In psychology, denialism is when someone chooses to deny reality to avoid believing in an uncomfortable truth. It can be an irrational action that prevents someone from validating a historical event or reality that can be empirically verified. 

What you consider "facts" might not really be facts. That seems to be more of the issue.

OnWis97

Kamala Harris

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its not fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Good one. This isn't about the actual impact of policies. It's about the sport of politics. The practical outcomes of the wins/losses don't even matter.

teskeinc

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Every administration, party and politician has mistakes. I don’t support Trump or Republicans. I’m for term limits and age limits. I hate career politicians. I’m voting simply because I think the country was run better under Trump. I don’t need an emotional connection. 

The problem here is no one can accept any mistakes that Biden/Harris made. Obviously Harris isn’t qualified to be President, (2019 showed what everyone thought of her as a candidate). I’ve never seen anyone post anything about her achievements in the last 3.5 years that would make it any different. 3-4 months ago Dem Elites were floating ideas to replace her on Biden’s ticket.  But because she’s running against the evil Trump people are portraying her as the second coming of Christ. 

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

teskeinc said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Every administration, party and politician has mistakes. I don’t support Trump or Republicans. I’m for term limits and age limits. I hate career politicians. I’m voting simply because I think the country was run better under Trump. I don’t need an emotional connection. 

The problem here is no one can accept any mistakes that Biden/Harris made. Obviously Harris isn’t qualified to be President, (2019 showed what everyone thought of her as a candidate). I’ve never seen anyone post anything about her achievements in the last 3.5 years that would make it any different. 3-4 months ago Dem Elites were floating ideas to replace her on Biden’s ticket.  But because she’s running against the evil Trump people are portraying her as the second coming of Christ. 

This is where you lose credibility. To say that Harris "isn't qualified to be President" doesn't make sense. You don't want any whataboutisms but trump clearly isn't qualified based on his attempt to overturn the election and the fact that none of his prior administration supports him.

You are seriously going to vote for a dipshit whose VP, SecDef, SecState, Chief of Staff, etc, do not support him.  They have told you that he isn't qualified. That gives you zero credibility.

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Every administration, party and politician has mistakes. I don’t support Trump or Republicans. I’m for term limits and age limits. I hate career politicians. I’m voting simply because I think the country was run better under Trump. I don’t need an emotional connection. 

The problem here is no one can accept any mistakes that Biden/Harris made. Obviously Harris isn’t qualified to be President, (2019 showed what everyone thought of her as a candidate). I’ve never seen anyone post anything about her achievements in the last 3.5 years that would make it any different. 3-4 months ago Dem Elites were floating ideas to replace her on Biden’s ticket.  But because she’s running against the evil Trump people are portraying her as the second coming of Christ. 

1. 80+MM voted for her to be the VP for man in his late 70's, so I would argue we all  believed in her ability to be president one day, just not in 2020.  Thanks for your concern about our feelings though. 

2. She's the VP.  She doesn't have her own policies apart from the President's.  And we're all quite pleased with the stock market, oil production, soft landing, having lower inflation than every other G8 country, infrastructure plan, unemployment rate, and the reduced cost of insulin.  All winners. 

For me, I particularly proud of our funding of Ukraine, and their ability to continue to bleed Russia.  Love it.  Coudln't be happier.  I would vote for Biden or Harris on that policy alone.  Full stop.  

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

I think we disagree on what the mistakes and bad policy are. That’s where the issues arise. And assumptions are made as fact. 

Case in point, you say obviously she isn’t qualified. Well, no not obviously. In your opinion, she is not qualified.

teskeinc

Gern Blansten said:

teskeinc said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Every administration, party and politician has mistakes. I don’t support Trump or Republicans. I’m for term limits and age limits. I hate career politicians. I’m voting simply because I think the country was run better under Trump. I don’t need an emotional connection. 

The problem here is no one can accept any mistakes that Biden/Harris made. Obviously Harris isn’t qualified to be President, (2019 showed what everyone thought of her as a candidate). I’ve never seen anyone post anything about her achievements in the last 3.5 years that would make it any different. 3-4 months ago Dem Elites were floating ideas to replace her on Biden’s ticket.  But because she’s running against the evil Trump people are portraying her as the second coming of Christ. 

This is where you lose credibility. To say that Harris "isn't qualified to be President" doesn't make sense. You don't want any whataboutisms but trump clearly isn't qualified based on his attempt to overturn the election and the fact that none of his prior administration supports him.

You are seriously going to vote for a dipshit whose VP, SecDef, SecState, Chief of Staff, etc, do not support him.  They have told you that he isn't qualified. That gives you zero credibility.

Here we go again. The perfect opportunity to explain why Kamala is qualified, but you can’t. Immediately pivot to the Orange Man Bad theory once again. You just proved everything I’ve been saying. It’s OK, I realize you don’t know any better. 

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

 I’m voting simply because I think the country was run better under Trump. 

Also, this is fine. But understand, Trump had no political accomplishments before running for president (other than political shit posting) and people deemed him worthy of the biggest role in the world. You may disagree with or that Harris'  had accomplishments as DA, Senator or VP, but at the very least you have to see that people are willing to take that risk (like people took with Trump in 2016) because people DON"T think things were better with Trump.

BF25394

teskeinc said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think you'll find that most Biden and/or Harris supporters know that there has been bad policy positions, missteps, and bad takes. I certainly hope Trump supporters feel that way about their candidate too.

also, just because people don't see the world your way, its fucking denialism. thats a lazy take.

Every administration, party and politician has mistakes. I don’t support Trump or Republicans. I’m for term limits and age limits. I hate career politicians. I’m voting simply because I think the country was run better under Trump. I don’t need an emotional connection. 

The problem here is no one can accept any mistakes that Biden/Harris made. Obviously Harris isn’t qualified to be President, (2019 showed what everyone thought of her as a candidate). I’ve never seen anyone post anything about her achievements in the last 3.5 years that would make it any different. 3-4 months ago Dem Elites were floating ideas to replace her on Biden’s ticket.  But because she’s running against the evil Trump people are portraying her as the second coming of Christ. 

If you're voting for Trump, you support Trump. You can rationalize it however you want, but that's a fact.

Both of these candidates are qualified to be president: they are at least 35 years old, natural-born citizens of the United States, and have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years. The difference is that Trump is unfit to be president. He is a corrupt, dishonest narcissist who would sell out the country for his own personal interest in a heartbeat. You keep avoiding addressing the elephants in the room. He tried to overturn an election, and he still has not conceded it. He attempted to extort a foreign leader to get dirt on a political opponent. He asked a different foreign leader to hack the accounts of a different political opponent to get dirt on her (something that his campaign now clutches their pearls about when he's the one who has been hacked). Etc., etc. I won't go through it all again. But you don't seem to have any response as to why he should be given power again in light of this litany.

Why do you think the country was run better under Trump? Do you think Trump did a good job handling the pandemic? Where do you think he most excelled-- covering up the seriousness of it at the beginning, or downplaying the seriousness of it when it was in full bloom? Do you think he showed good leadership during that crisis? Did he behave in a way that united people to face the serious threat, or did he cry and moan about how unfair it was to him and encourage people to act recklessly and selfishly? Are you one of the people who gives him credit for having "no wars" despite the fact that the U.S. was at war in Afghanistan for the entire length of Trump's term? You complain about the execution of the withdrawal from Afghanistan under Biden; Trump had four years to withdraw from Afghanistan and didn't do it. Do you think Trump did a good job following through on his promises? We're still waiting for the wall to be built and for Mexico to pay for it. We're still waiting for Infrastructure Week-- that is, we would still be waiting if Biden hadn't actually passed a massive bipartisan infrastructure bill.

What exactly is it that you think ran well? Lower taxes for the rich? Lower gas and grocery prices? Do you actually think that if Trump had been re-elected in 2020 that there wouldn't have still been significant inflation? It's a macroeconomic phenomenon. Large amounts of government spending to recover from the pandemic exacerbated it, but it was only one part of the equation. All the rest of it-- supply chain disruption, etc.-- is independent from who holds the office of the presidency. Trump's term was characterized by chaos on an almost daily basis. His staffers and cabinet members left in droves. Many of them have written books about what a shit show it all was. How have you forgotten all of this to describe the country as well-run under his leadership? You talk a lot about the "radical left" and "communism"-- one thing that is a small segment of the electorate and another that is virtually nonexistent in the U.S. in 2024-- so is it really just about you liking the fact that he sticks a finger in the eye of the people that bug you? It seems that way, and it's a pretty childish way to approach politics.