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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    edited August 9
    I'm not sure what's going on here, but I'm guessing the ignore button is doing it's job, even if the "right on" button isn't!   :righton:lol:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    brianlux said:
    So I take it we're not talking about the deceased former mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown.  Jeez, there must be a bunch of Willie Browns in the country!
    Willie Brown is alive and, likely, takes umbrage to your insinuation that he's dead. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    So Wiilie Brown says he's never been on a helicopter with tRump. I hope reporters follow up on this. 
    Mr Trump appears to be in cognitive decline. He should drop out of the race and mentally prepare for prison.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    So Wiilie Brown says he's never been on a helicopter with tRump. I hope reporters follow up on this. 
    Mr Trump appears to be in cognitive decline. He should drop out of the race and mentally prepare for prison.

    Or a straight jacket.  Seriously, the man is coming unhinged.  
    Say, are there really still people who think he is fit enough for the job he is applying for?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,519
    brianlux said:
    So Wiilie Brown says he's never been on a helicopter with tRump. I hope reporters follow up on this. 
    Mr Trump appears to be in cognitive decline. He should drop out of the race and mentally prepare for prison.

    Or a straight jacket.  Seriously, the man is coming unhinged.  
    Say, are there really still people who think he is fit enough for the job he is applying for?
    Yeah there’s a few here that will happily pull the lever for an unhinged idiot that’s the nicest I can describe it! Human is too nice of a label to put on him 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262


    I hope the press makes this a bigger headline...fucking insane rambling story tRump told that didn't happen
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262


    Is this the answer? 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,914


    Is this the answer? 
    Maybe he was unaware that Jerry Brown maybe recently "became black" similar to VP Harris.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    Poncier said:


    Is this the answer? 
    Maybe he was unaware that Jerry Brown maybe recently "became black" similar to VP Harris.
    So let's say that this is the error...he might have been in a copter with Newsome and Brown back when the CA wildfires were going on. The famous "they need to rake the forest" comment about fire prevention, etc. 

    He still said that Brown told him "really terrible things" about Harris. Why on earth would Jerry Brown have said anything about Harris during a trip to see the fire damage.

    They need to press him on this constantly. He'll implode.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    edited August 9


    It's getting traction...they have talked to Jerry who says there was no bad landing and they didn't discuss Harris.

    How fucked up is this? I'm curious what the tRump supporters think.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    edited August 9
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/08/us/politics/trump-helicopter-willie-brown.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.TcAl.BeM2FC_r8Pum&smid=url-share

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    Former President Donald J. Trump told a jaw-dropping story on Thursday about nearly dying in a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician and ex-boyfriend of his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.
    There was only one problem with the story. Or maybe two. Or maybe three.
    It wasn’t the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.
    There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopter’s passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.
    Jerry Brown, who left office in January 2019, said through a spokesman, “There was no emergency landing and no discussion of Kamala Harris.”
    “I call complete B.S.,” Mr. Newsom said, laughing out loud.
    Mr. Trump’s errant account, delivered during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, came in response to a reporter who asked a leading question about Ms. Harris’s past relationship with Willie Brown, and whether Mr. Trump thought it might have had something to do with her career trajectory.
    The two dated in 1994 and 1995, while she was a prosecutor in Alameda County, which includes Oakland, and he was the speaker of the California State Assembly, and he appointed her to two state boards. He was — and still is — married to Blanche Brown, but they have long lived separate lives.
    “Well, I know Willie Brown very well,” Mr. Trump responded. “In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him.”
    He went on to tell a cinematic tale of a close call with death — and of politically advantageous gossip on death’s door:
    “We thought maybe this was the end,” Mr. Trump said. “We were in a helicopter, going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing.
    “And Willie was — he was a little concerned,” Mr. Trump continued. “So I know him, but I know him pretty well. I mean, I haven’t seen him in years. But he told me terrible things about her. But this is what you’re telling me, anyway, I guess. But he had a big part in what happened with Kamala. But he — he, I don’t know, maybe he’s changed his tune. But he — he was not a fan of hers very much, at that point.”
    Reached on his cellphone just after Mr. Trump’s news conference — at his regular lunch spot at Sam’s Grill in downtown San Francisco — Mr. Brown, 90, said the whole story was false. He had never ridden in a helicopter with Mr. Trump, he said. He had never nearly perished in any helicopter ride. And he remained an avid supporter of Ms. Harris’s.
    Mr. Brown, who loves regaling anybody who will listen with stories and who penned a weekly column in The San Francisco Chronicle until 2021, added, laughing: “You know me well enough to know that if I almost went down in a helicopter with anybody, you would have heard about it!”
    Ms. Harris ended their relationship nearly three decades ago, but Mr. Brown said he had always been a big fan and supporter of hers. “No hard feelings,” he said.
    The helicopter ride that Mr. Trump took in 2018 with Gov. Jerry Brown, 86, and with Mr. Newsom, then the governor-elect of California, was to survey damage wrought by the deadly Camp Fire in the town of Paradise, in the Sierra Nevada foothills north of Sacramento.
    Mr. Newsom’s recollection of the occasion was vivid.
    “I was on a helicopter with Jerry Brown and Trump, and it didn’t go down,” Mr. Newsom, 56, said in an interview. He said that Mr. Trump had, however, repeatedly brought up the possibility of crashing.
    The subject of Ms. Harris, with whom Mr. Newsom had enjoyed a friendly rivalry, did not come up on the helicopter, he added. “We talked about everyone else, but not Kamala,” he said with a laugh.
    Mr. Newsom called Mr. Trump’s news conference “an act of desperation” prompted by what he called Ms. Harris’s momentum.
    Mr. Trump’s visit to the burned forest with then-Governor Brown and Mr. Newsom did generate headlines, but not because of anything that occurred on their helicopter ride. Rather, it was because, during a news conference after landing at the scene, Mr. Trump, 78, attributed the wildfire to too many fallen, dead tree branches and said the answer to solving California’s wildfire crisis was to rake the forest floors.
    “It was back when we were making raking the forest great again,” Mr. Newsom said.

    I guess I should have reviewed my feed before posting the prior stuff...here is the skinny.

    tRump is a fucking moron. He has been caught in a blatant lie here.

    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,914
    brianlux said:
    So I take it we're not talking about the deceased former mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown.  Jeez, there must be a bunch of Willie Browns in the country!

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    edited August 9
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited August 9
    Poncier said:


    Is this the answer? 
    Maybe he was unaware that Jerry Brown maybe recently "became black" similar to VP Harris.
    So let's say that this is the error...he might have been in a copter with Newsome and Brown back when the CA wildfires were going on. The famous "they need to rake the forest" comment about fire prevention, etc. 

    He still said that Brown told him "really terrible things" about Harris. Why on earth would Jerry Brown have said anything about Harris during a trip to see the fire damage.

    They need to press him on this constantly. He'll implode.
    Wow...yeah that makes sense, in an odd way. Like he got caught in a lie. I also thought his comments on Josh Shapiro were also really strange...almost as if he was talking about him like if he was picked by Kamala and not passed over. His brain is fried. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    mickeyrat said:
    He's right...why in the fuck didn't they ask him about the WP story about his campaign taking $10mil from Egypt? 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    mickeyrat said:
    He's right...why in the fuck didn't they ask him about the WP story about his campaign taking $10mil from Egypt? 

    edited to replace with a more full clip of the same.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262


    I guess this answers my question
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/08/us/politics/trump-helicopter-willie-brown.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.TcAl.BeM2FC_r8Pum&smid=url-share

    Gift article

    Former President Donald J. Trump told a jaw-dropping story on Thursday about nearly dying in a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician and ex-boyfriend of his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.
    There was only one problem with the story. Or maybe two. Or maybe three.
    It wasn’t the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.
    There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopter’s passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.
    Jerry Brown, who left office in January 2019, said through a spokesman, “There was no emergency landing and no discussion of Kamala Harris.”
    “I call complete B.S.,” Mr. Newsom said, laughing out loud.
    Mr. Trump’s errant account, delivered during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, came in response to a reporter who asked a leading question about Ms. Harris’s past relationship with Willie Brown, and whether Mr. Trump thought it might have had something to do with her career trajectory.
    The two dated in 1994 and 1995, while she was a prosecutor in Alameda County, which includes Oakland, and he was the speaker of the California State Assembly, and he appointed her to two state boards. He was — and still is — married to Blanche Brown, but they have long lived separate lives.
    “Well, I know Willie Brown very well,” Mr. Trump responded. “In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him.”
    He went on to tell a cinematic tale of a close call with death — and of politically advantageous gossip on death’s door:
    “We thought maybe this was the end,” Mr. Trump said. “We were in a helicopter, going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing.
    “And Willie was — he was a little concerned,” Mr. Trump continued. “So I know him, but I know him pretty well. I mean, I haven’t seen him in years. But he told me terrible things about her. But this is what you’re telling me, anyway, I guess. But he had a big part in what happened with Kamala. But he — he, I don’t know, maybe he’s changed his tune. But he — he was not a fan of hers very much, at that point.”
    Reached on his cellphone just after Mr. Trump’s news conference — at his regular lunch spot at Sam’s Grill in downtown San Francisco — Mr. Brown, 90, said the whole story was false. He had never ridden in a helicopter with Mr. Trump, he said. He had never nearly perished in any helicopter ride. And he remained an avid supporter of Ms. Harris’s.
    Mr. Brown, who loves regaling anybody who will listen with stories and who penned a weekly column in The San Francisco Chronicle until 2021, added, laughing: “You know me well enough to know that if I almost went down in a helicopter with anybody, you would have heard about it!”
    Ms. Harris ended their relationship nearly three decades ago, but Mr. Brown said he had always been a big fan and supporter of hers. “No hard feelings,” he said.
    The helicopter ride that Mr. Trump took in 2018 with Gov. Jerry Brown, 86, and with Mr. Newsom, then the governor-elect of California, was to survey damage wrought by the deadly Camp Fire in the town of Paradise, in the Sierra Nevada foothills north of Sacramento.
    Mr. Newsom’s recollection of the occasion was vivid.
    “I was on a helicopter with Jerry Brown and Trump, and it didn’t go down,” Mr. Newsom, 56, said in an interview. He said that Mr. Trump had, however, repeatedly brought up the possibility of crashing.
    The subject of Ms. Harris, with whom Mr. Newsom had enjoyed a friendly rivalry, did not come up on the helicopter, he added. “We talked about everyone else, but not Kamala,” he said with a laugh.
    Mr. Newsom called Mr. Trump’s news conference “an act of desperation” prompted by what he called Ms. Harris’s momentum.
    Mr. Trump’s visit to the burned forest with then-Governor Brown and Mr. Newsom did generate headlines, but not because of anything that occurred on their helicopter ride. Rather, it was because, during a news conference after landing at the scene, Mr. Trump, 78, attributed the wildfire to too many fallen, dead tree branches and said the answer to solving California’s wildfire crisis was to rake the forest floors.
    “It was back when we were making raking the forest great again,” Mr. Newsom said.

    I guess I should have reviewed my feed before posting the prior stuff...here is the skinny.

    tRump is a fucking moron. He has been caught in a blatant lie here.

    I’m truly shocked that Trump is a moron and a liar. First I’m hearing of this….
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    Lawrence: 'Stupidest' candidate Trump did not answer reporters' questions

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262


    when you lose Nick Fuentes...
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    teskeinc said:
    brianlux said:
    So I take it we're not talking about the deceased former mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown.  Jeez, there must be a bunch of Willie Browns in the country!
    The one that “helped” Kamala get her foot in the door?
    so when trump "helps" someone get elected, which he claims to have done dozens of times, does that mean you think they all sucked on the orange mushroom?

    Eww. Just... ewwww.
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/08/us/politics/trump-helicopter-willie-brown.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.TcAl.BeM2FC_r8Pum&smid=url-share

    Gift article

    Former President Donald J. Trump told a jaw-dropping story on Thursday about nearly dying in a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician and ex-boyfriend of his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.
    There was only one problem with the story. Or maybe two. Or maybe three.
    It wasn’t the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.
    There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopter’s passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.
    Jerry Brown, who left office in January 2019, said through a spokesman, “There was no emergency landing and no discussion of Kamala Harris.”
    “I call complete B.S.,” Mr. Newsom said, laughing out loud.
    Mr. Trump’s errant account, delivered during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, came in response to a reporter who asked a leading question about Ms. Harris’s past relationship with Willie Brown, and whether Mr. Trump thought it might have had something to do with her career trajectory.
    The two dated in 1994 and 1995, while she was a prosecutor in Alameda County, which includes Oakland, and he was the speaker of the California State Assembly, and he appointed her to two state boards. He was — and still is — married to Blanche Brown, but they have long lived separate lives.
    “Well, I know Willie Brown very well,” Mr. Trump responded. “In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him.”
    He went on to tell a cinematic tale of a close call with death — and of politically advantageous gossip on death’s door:
    “We thought maybe this was the end,” Mr. Trump said. “We were in a helicopter, going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing.
    “And Willie was — he was a little concerned,” Mr. Trump continued. “So I know him, but I know him pretty well. I mean, I haven’t seen him in years. But he told me terrible things about her. But this is what you’re telling me, anyway, I guess. But he had a big part in what happened with Kamala. But he — he, I don’t know, maybe he’s changed his tune. But he — he was not a fan of hers very much, at that point.”
    Reached on his cellphone just after Mr. Trump’s news conference — at his regular lunch spot at Sam’s Grill in downtown San Francisco — Mr. Brown, 90, said the whole story was false. He had never ridden in a helicopter with Mr. Trump, he said. He had never nearly perished in any helicopter ride. And he remained an avid supporter of Ms. Harris’s.
    Mr. Brown, who loves regaling anybody who will listen with stories and who penned a weekly column in The San Francisco Chronicle until 2021, added, laughing: “You know me well enough to know that if I almost went down in a helicopter with anybody, you would have heard about it!”
    Ms. Harris ended their relationship nearly three decades ago, but Mr. Brown said he had always been a big fan and supporter of hers. “No hard feelings,” he said.
    The helicopter ride that Mr. Trump took in 2018 with Gov. Jerry Brown, 86, and with Mr. Newsom, then the governor-elect of California, was to survey damage wrought by the deadly Camp Fire in the town of Paradise, in the Sierra Nevada foothills north of Sacramento.
    Mr. Newsom’s recollection of the occasion was vivid.
    “I was on a helicopter with Jerry Brown and Trump, and it didn’t go down,” Mr. Newsom, 56, said in an interview. He said that Mr. Trump had, however, repeatedly brought up the possibility of crashing.
    The subject of Ms. Harris, with whom Mr. Newsom had enjoyed a friendly rivalry, did not come up on the helicopter, he added. “We talked about everyone else, but not Kamala,” he said with a laugh.
    Mr. Newsom called Mr. Trump’s news conference “an act of desperation” prompted by what he called Ms. Harris’s momentum.
    Mr. Trump’s visit to the burned forest with then-Governor Brown and Mr. Newsom did generate headlines, but not because of anything that occurred on their helicopter ride. Rather, it was because, during a news conference after landing at the scene, Mr. Trump, 78, attributed the wildfire to too many fallen, dead tree branches and said the answer to solving California’s wildfire crisis was to rake the forest floors.
    “It was back when we were making raking the forest great again,” Mr. Newsom said.

    I guess I should have reviewed my feed before posting the prior stuff...here is the skinny.

    tRump is a fucking moron. He has been caught in a blatant lie here.


    This is comedy gold. I can hear the reporter giggling as they type up this story.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/08/us/politics/trump-helicopter-willie-brown.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.TcAl.BeM2FC_r8Pum&smid=url-share

    Gift article

    Former President Donald J. Trump told a jaw-dropping story on Thursday about nearly dying in a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician and ex-boyfriend of his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.
    There was only one problem with the story. Or maybe two. Or maybe three.
    It wasn’t the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.
    There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopter’s passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.
    Jerry Brown, who left office in January 2019, said through a spokesman, “There was no emergency landing and no discussion of Kamala Harris.”
    “I call complete B.S.,” Mr. Newsom said, laughing out loud.
    Mr. Trump’s errant account, delivered during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, came in response to a reporter who asked a leading question about Ms. Harris’s past relationship with Willie Brown, and whether Mr. Trump thought it might have had something to do with her career trajectory.
    The two dated in 1994 and 1995, while she was a prosecutor in Alameda County, which includes Oakland, and he was the speaker of the California State Assembly, and he appointed her to two state boards. He was — and still is — married to Blanche Brown, but they have long lived separate lives.
    “Well, I know Willie Brown very well,” Mr. Trump responded. “In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him.”
    He went on to tell a cinematic tale of a close call with death — and of politically advantageous gossip on death’s door:
    “We thought maybe this was the end,” Mr. Trump said. “We were in a helicopter, going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing.
    “And Willie was — he was a little concerned,” Mr. Trump continued. “So I know him, but I know him pretty well. I mean, I haven’t seen him in years. But he told me terrible things about her. But this is what you’re telling me, anyway, I guess. But he had a big part in what happened with Kamala. But he — he, I don’t know, maybe he’s changed his tune. But he — he was not a fan of hers very much, at that point.”
    Reached on his cellphone just after Mr. Trump’s news conference — at his regular lunch spot at Sam’s Grill in downtown San Francisco — Mr. Brown, 90, said the whole story was false. He had never ridden in a helicopter with Mr. Trump, he said. He had never nearly perished in any helicopter ride. And he remained an avid supporter of Ms. Harris’s.
    Mr. Brown, who loves regaling anybody who will listen with stories and who penned a weekly column in The San Francisco Chronicle until 2021, added, laughing: “You know me well enough to know that if I almost went down in a helicopter with anybody, you would have heard about it!”
    Ms. Harris ended their relationship nearly three decades ago, but Mr. Brown said he had always been a big fan and supporter of hers. “No hard feelings,” he said.
    The helicopter ride that Mr. Trump took in 2018 with Gov. Jerry Brown, 86, and with Mr. Newsom, then the governor-elect of California, was to survey damage wrought by the deadly Camp Fire in the town of Paradise, in the Sierra Nevada foothills north of Sacramento.
    Mr. Newsom’s recollection of the occasion was vivid.
    “I was on a helicopter with Jerry Brown and Trump, and it didn’t go down,” Mr. Newsom, 56, said in an interview. He said that Mr. Trump had, however, repeatedly brought up the possibility of crashing.
    The subject of Ms. Harris, with whom Mr. Newsom had enjoyed a friendly rivalry, did not come up on the helicopter, he added. “We talked about everyone else, but not Kamala,” he said with a laugh.
    Mr. Newsom called Mr. Trump’s news conference “an act of desperation” prompted by what he called Ms. Harris’s momentum.
    Mr. Trump’s visit to the burned forest with then-Governor Brown and Mr. Newsom did generate headlines, but not because of anything that occurred on their helicopter ride. Rather, it was because, during a news conference after landing at the scene, Mr. Trump, 78, attributed the wildfire to too many fallen, dead tree branches and said the answer to solving California’s wildfire crisis was to rake the forest floors.
    “It was back when we were making raking the forest great again,” Mr. Newsom said.

    I guess I should have reviewed my feed before posting the prior stuff...here is the skinny.

    tRump is a fucking moron. He has been caught in a blatant lie here.


    This is comedy gold. I can hear the reporter giggling as they type up this story.
    I love that they reached those guys so quickly...you can bet Newsom isn't going to let it go
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    I read an article about Willie Brown a couple weeks ago after Kamala took over and the interview took place at that same restaurant. Guy has eaten lunch there for like 30 years lol.

    Trump is a pathologically liar in cognitive decline so his tales will likely become more and more insane...and more and more false. 
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    Poncier said:


    Is this the answer? 
    Maybe he was unaware that Jerry Brown maybe recently "became black" similar to VP Harris.

    My first and best morning laugh.  Thank you!  :lol:           

    Good God, Trump really has last his mind.  And yet millions of people will vote for a crazed megalomaniac in November.  In a word, "weird".  

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    I read an article about Willie Brown a couple weeks ago after Kamala took over and the interview took place at that same restaurant. Guy has eaten lunch there for like 30 years lol.

    Trump is a pathologically liar in cognitive decline so his tales will likely become more and more insane...and more and more false. 
    And he’ll still garner 60-80 million votes.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    I read an article about Willie Brown a couple weeks ago after Kamala took over and the interview took place at that same restaurant. Guy has eaten lunch there for like 30 years lol.

    Trump is a pathologically liar in cognitive decline so his tales will likely become more and more insane...and more and more false. 

    One of my aunts was very active in the Haight Ashbury community for a good thirty or more years and was a friend of Willie Brown's.  I wish she were around to hear about all this.  She would find Trumps b.s. somewhat amusing, and totally absurd. 
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    August 9th and the bs on my street happening already.  We have a female homosexual couple two doors down.  The fuckers all around them have decided to surround them with large trump flags and signs.  I show them my form of patriotism every time I ride past and they’re outside.  It literally upsets me so bad that I shake.  Since the signs/flags have gone up their daughters haven’t been outside.  They’ve taken down their rainbow “in this house” sign.  Every time I see that puke pos on tv I have to mute it.  I know that this world is just beyond belief, but the amount of in your face cruelty is too much.  I’m so glad I’m closer to the end of my time in this fucked up place.  Sorry for my pessimistic rant but I just needed somewhere to say what the fuck.  My heart aches for these women/neighbors.  I’ve got some signs coming…like “my dogs smarter than trump”, which she is, an “in this house sign” and some Harris/Walz signs.  
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