** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

Merkin Baller

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Doing research is for the libtards to do. Unless it's vaccines, then you "do research" on X (whatever you do don't ask a doctor).

Multiple times from the same person screaming voter fraud here, we've seen videos posted to X that have chyrons on them, but no attribution as to what news outlets they came from. 

I asked our friend from Philly / NJ about these sources, and the response is crickets... they don't know how badly they're being fooled. 

The Juggler

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

This makes 3 presidential elections in a row where he’s made preemptive claims of massive fraud, and it still doesn’t exist. He hasn’t been able to will it into existence except for in the minds of gullible people. 

If you still believe his claims of massive voter fraud, you’re a mark… present company included. 

As we see in this very thread, his strategy plays extremely well with the magas. 

The bare minimum of research into election fraud is all one needs to realize how unrealistic and nonsensical the claims are, and yet these people are convinced that this serial liar and grifter isn't steering them wrong. 

It's batshit f'ing crazy. 

He could even go back and review Trump's own commission on Voter Fraud...which found none and then quietly was disbanded. 

https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud

BY  MARINA VILLENEUVE

Published 6:26 PM EDT, August 3, 2018

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PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.

In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a “pre-ordained outcome” and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was “glaringly empty.”

“It’s calling into the darkness, looking for voter fraud,” Dunlap, a Democrat, told The Associated Press. “There’s no real evidence of it anywhere.”

Republican President Donald Trump convened the commission to investigate the 2016 presidential election after making unsubstantiated claims that between 3 million and 5 million ballots were illegally cast. Critics, including Dunlap, reject his claims of widespread voter fraud.

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The Trump administration last month complied with a court order to turn over documents from the voting integrity commission to Dunlap. The commission met just twice and has not issued a report.

Dunlap’s findings received immediate pushback Friday from Kobach, who acted as vice chair of the commission while Pence served as chair.

“For some people, no matter how many cases of voter fraud you show them, there will never be enough for them to admit that there’s a problem,” said Kobach, who is running for Kansas governor and has a good chance of unseating the incumbent, Jeff Colyer, in the Republican primary Tuesday.

“It appears that Secretary Dunlap is willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose,” Kobach said in a statement released by his spokesman.

Kobach said there have been more than 1,000 convictions for voter fraud since 2000, and that the commission presented 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election in 20 states.

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“Had the commission done the same analysis of all 50 states, the number would have been exponentially higher,” Kobach said.

In response, Dunlap said those figures were never brought before the commission, and that Kobach hasn’t presented any evidence for his claims of double voting. He said the commission was presented with a report claiming over 1,000 convictions for various forms of voter misconduct since 1948.

“The plural of anecdote is not data,” Dunlap said in his Friday letter to the shuttered commission’s leaders.

Pence’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment Friday.

Dunlap said he is unsure whether the administration has released all relevant documents, and said the matter is in litigation. He said he was repeatedly rebuffed when he sought access to commission records including meeting materials, witness invitations and correspondence.

Dunlap released his findings on a website .

Emails released by Dunlap and promoted by the nonprofit American Oversight, which represented Dunlap, include examples of Republican voting integrity commissioners emailing each other as they worked on information requests without including Democrats.

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“Indeed, a very few commissioners worked to buttress their pre-ordained conclusions shielded from dissent or dialogue from those commissioners not included in the discussions,” Dunlap said in his Friday letter.

In a June 2017 email, commissioner Christy McCormick unsuccessfully tried to suggest that the commission hire a statistician she knew. “When I was at DOJ, we had numerous discussions that made me pretty confident that he is conservative (and Christian, too),” said McCormick, in reference to the U.S. Department of Justice.

The emails also show some commission members had planned to ask for an interstate database used to identify duplicate voter registrations, as well as lists of individuals deemed ineligible for federal jury service due to death, relocation, convictions or lack of citizenship. It wasn’t clear in the emails whether or not such requests ended up being fulfilled, Dunlap said.

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In two November 2017 emails, Republican commission member and election lawyer J. Christian Adams emailed all members and said there hadn’t been any prosecutions for double voting or any non-citizen voting in years. “Understanding the extent of un-prosecuted and known election crimes can inform the commission’s recommendations,” Adams said.

Adams also called for U.S. Customs and Immigration Services to obtain metadata from citizenship applications as well as a list of individuals removed from the U.S. due to their unlawful participation in elections.

“Many applicants note they have been registered to vote and are voting,” Adams said.

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Associated Press writer John Hanna in Topeka, Kansas, contributed to this report.

Merkin Baller

No no, Juggler, all this widespread voter fraud is new since 2020.

What's so unbelievable about that?   

Philly NJ

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

(Misinformation removed by admin. Provide verification to further comments like that, thank you.)

See https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-lose-more-325000-migrant-children-1959295

Stop fucking lying.

Trump said, "Think of this: 325,000 children are missing, dead, sex slaves, or slaves. They came through the open border and they're gone."

This is a distortion of federal data about migrant children.

An August federal oversight report about unaccompanied minors released from federal government custody said that Immigration and Customs Enforcement had not served a "Notice to Appear" to more than 291,000 unaccompanied minors, as of May. (A notice to appear is a charging document authorities issue and file in immigration court to start removal proceedings.)

WATCH: Harris courts voters from across the aisle as Trump stokes fears on crime and immigration

The report said that unaccompanied children "who do not appear for court are considered at higher risk for trafficking, exploitation, or forced labor." The report doesn't state how many children have actually been trafficked.

The report led Republican lawmakers and conservative news outlets to say that ICE "lost" the children or that they are "missing." But that's not what it said.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-claims-at-madison-square-garden-rally

What is the lie?

Philly NJ said:

(Misinformation removed by admin. Provide verification to further comments like that, thank you.)

See https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-lose-more-325000-migrant-children-1959295

It is horrible that more people don’t care about this. And just to protect Harris…shameful.

https://www.thefp.com/p/inside-americas-fastest-growing-criminal

Inside America’s Fastest-Growing Criminal Enterprise: Sex Trafficking

Biden’s border policies have led to an explosion in the forced prostitution of migrants in the U.S. ‘If I wanted to, I could order a girl within 15 minutes.’

By Madeleine Rowley

October 14, 2024

Part of the article…

Lisa, who asked that we not use her real name, calls herself “an informant.” She lacks the authority to arrest a trafficker, and any attempt to rescue the girls herself could well get her killed. Instead, Lisa and a small handful of other Shepherd’s Watch investigators work to locate victims and their pimps and then turn the information over to police departments, sheriff’s offices, and other law enforcement agencies. Because Lisa and her team have gained credibility with law enforcement over the years, the police usually follow up on the information the Shepherd’s Watch informants provide. Sometimes they hit pay dirt, arresting the traffickers and removing the girls to a safe place.

“Law enforcement is understaffed and stretched too thin,” says Lisa. “That’s where we come in.”

At the barbecue joint off Route 75 in Dallas, Lisa pulls out her phone to show me the dozen or so online platforms that traffickers and pimps use to sell girls for sex. The platforms—which include apps like TikTok, OnlyFans, and Facebook—are chockablock with ads of women, usually wearing lingerie, their faces covered to prevent anyone guessing their age. The sheer number of ads is astonishing. “Each week, we track over 12,000 ads for women in Houston, 2,600 in San Antonio, 3,500 in Austin, and 14,000 in Dallas,” says Lisa.

I ask her if the sex trafficking of migrant girls had increased since the Biden administration threw open the border, leading to 8 million migrants crossing the southern border since 2021. “Yes,” she says. “Nearly all of my sex-trafficking rings now are migrant girls. The ads exploded within the first three months of the border being open. We started noticing new sites and ads in Spanish. That was very few before. Then sites dedicated to Latino girls popped up everywhere.” Since the border opened, Lisa added, over 90 percent of the ads are for migrant girls.

Many traffickers are members of Mexican or Salvadorian gangs, part of Cuban rings or the vicious Venezuelan group Tren de Aragua.

“If I wanted to, I could order a girl within 15 minutes,” Lisa says. “It’s that easy.”

 

The Juggler

Damn shame Trump didn't put a stop to that when he was president.

Also a damn shame Trump killed the bi-partisan border bill. Donald Trump is an open border globalist. 

Gern Blansten

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

(Misinformation removed by admin. Provide verification to further comments like that, thank you.)

See https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-lose-more-325000-migrant-children-1959295

Stop fucking lying.

Trump said, "Think of this: 325,000 children are missing, dead, sex slaves, or slaves. They came through the open border and they're gone."

This is a distortion of federal data about migrant children.

An August federal oversight report about unaccompanied minors released from federal government custody said that Immigration and Customs Enforcement had not served a "Notice to Appear" to more than 291,000 unaccompanied minors, as of May. (A notice to appear is a charging document authorities issue and file in immigration court to start removal proceedings.)

WATCH: Harris courts voters from across the aisle as Trump stokes fears on crime and immigration

The report said that unaccompanied children "who do not appear for court are considered at higher risk for trafficking, exploitation, or forced labor." The report doesn't state how many children have actually been trafficked.

The report led Republican lawmakers and conservative news outlets to say that ICE "lost" the children or that they are "missing." But that's not what it said.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-claims-at-madison-square-garden-rally

What is the lie?

Philly NJ said:

(Misinformation removed by admin. Provide verification to further comments like that, thank you.)

See https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-lose-more-325000-migrant-children-1959295

It is horrible that more people don’t care about this. And just to protect Harris…shameful.

https://www.thefp.com/p/inside-americas-fastest-growing-criminal

Inside America’s Fastest-Growing Criminal Enterprise: Sex Trafficking

Biden’s border policies have led to an explosion in the forced prostitution of migrants in the U.S. ‘If I wanted to, I could order a girl within 15 minutes.’

By Madeleine Rowley

October 14, 2024

Part of the article…

Lisa, who asked that we not use her real name, calls herself “an informant.” She lacks the authority to arrest a trafficker, and any attempt to rescue the girls herself could well get her killed. Instead, Lisa and a small handful of other Shepherd’s Watch investigators work to locate victims and their pimps and then turn the information over to police departments, sheriff’s offices, and other law enforcement agencies. Because Lisa and her team have gained credibility with law enforcement over the years, the police usually follow up on the information the Shepherd’s Watch informants provide. Sometimes they hit pay dirt, arresting the traffickers and removing the girls to a safe place.

“Law enforcement is understaffed and stretched too thin,” says Lisa. “That’s where we come in.”

At the barbecue joint off Route 75 in Dallas, Lisa pulls out her phone to show me the dozen or so online platforms that traffickers and pimps use to sell girls for sex. The platforms—which include apps like TikTok, OnlyFans, and Facebook—are chockablock with ads of women, usually wearing lingerie, their faces covered to prevent anyone guessing their age. The sheer number of ads is astonishing. “Each week, we track over 12,000 ads for women in Houston, 2,600 in San Antonio, 3,500 in Austin, and 14,000 in Dallas,” says Lisa.

I ask her if the sex trafficking of migrant girls had increased since the Biden administration threw open the border, leading to 8 million migrants crossing the southern border since 2021. “Yes,” she says. “Nearly all of my sex-trafficking rings now are migrant girls. The ads exploded within the first three months of the border being open. We started noticing new sites and ads in Spanish. That was very few before. Then sites dedicated to Latino girls popped up everywhere.” Since the border opened, Lisa added, over 90 percent of the ads are for migrant girls.

Many traffickers are members of Mexican or Salvadorian gangs, part of Cuban rings or the vicious Venezuelan group Tren de Aragua.

“If I wanted to, I could order a girl within 15 minutes,” Lisa says. “It’s that easy.”

 

You are voting for a guy that rapes and sexually assaulted multiple women. Just stop.

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

(Misinformation removed by admin. Provide verification to further comments like that, thank you.)

See https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-lose-more-325000-migrant-children-1959295

Stop fucking lying.

Trump said, "Think of this: 325,000 children are missing, dead, sex slaves, or slaves. They came through the open border and they're gone."

This is a distortion of federal data about migrant children.

An August federal oversight report about unaccompanied minors released from federal government custody said that Immigration and Customs Enforcement had not served a "Notice to Appear" to more than 291,000 unaccompanied minors, as of May. (A notice to appear is a charging document authorities issue and file in immigration court to start removal proceedings.)

WATCH: Harris courts voters from across the aisle as Trump stokes fears on crime and immigration

The report said that unaccompanied children "who do not appear for court are considered at higher risk for trafficking, exploitation, or forced labor." The report doesn't state how many children have actually been trafficked.

The report led Republican lawmakers and conservative news outlets to say that ICE "lost" the children or that they are "missing." But that's not what it said.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-claims-at-madison-square-garden-rally

What is the lie?

Philly NJ said:

(Misinformation removed by admin. Provide verification to further comments like that, thank you.)

See https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-lose-more-325000-migrant-children-1959295

It is horrible that more people don’t care about this. And just to protect Harris…shameful.

https://www.thefp.com/p/inside-americas-fastest-growing-criminal

Inside America’s Fastest-Growing Criminal Enterprise: Sex Trafficking

Biden’s border policies have led to an explosion in the forced prostitution of migrants in the U.S. ‘If I wanted to, I could order a girl within 15 minutes.’

By Madeleine Rowley

October 14, 2024

Part of the article…

Lisa, who asked that we not use her real name, calls herself “an informant.” She lacks the authority to arrest a trafficker, and any attempt to rescue the girls herself could well get her killed. Instead, Lisa and a small handful of other Shepherd’s Watch investigators work to locate victims and their pimps and then turn the information over to police departments, sheriff’s offices, and other law enforcement agencies. Because Lisa and her team have gained credibility with law enforcement over the years, the police usually follow up on the information the Shepherd’s Watch informants provide. Sometimes they hit pay dirt, arresting the traffickers and removing the girls to a safe place.

“Law enforcement is understaffed and stretched too thin,” says Lisa. “That’s where we come in.”

At the barbecue joint off Route 75 in Dallas, Lisa pulls out her phone to show me the dozen or so online platforms that traffickers and pimps use to sell girls for sex. The platforms—which include apps like TikTok, OnlyFans, and Facebook—are chockablock with ads of women, usually wearing lingerie, their faces covered to prevent anyone guessing their age. The sheer number of ads is astonishing. “Each week, we track over 12,000 ads for women in Houston, 2,600 in San Antonio, 3,500 in Austin, and 14,000 in Dallas,” says Lisa.

I ask her if the sex trafficking of migrant girls had increased since the Biden administration threw open the border, leading to 8 million migrants crossing the southern border since 2021. “Yes,” she says. “Nearly all of my sex-trafficking rings now are migrant girls. The ads exploded within the first three months of the border being open. We started noticing new sites and ads in Spanish. That was very few before. Then sites dedicated to Latino girls popped up everywhere.” Since the border opened, Lisa added, over 90 percent of the ads are for migrant girls.

Many traffickers are members of Mexican or Salvadorian gangs, part of Cuban rings or the vicious Venezuelan group Tren de Aragua.

“If I wanted to, I could order a girl within 15 minutes,” Lisa says. “It’s that easy.”

 

You are voting for a guy that rapes and sexually assaulted multiple women. Just stop.

Exactly - couldn't give a hobo's crap about victims of sexual violence, just repeating what they see online without a shred of independent or critical thought. 

It's just sad at this point. 

Philly NJ

Merkin Baller said:

I know it may be difficult for some, but follow the thread, I was responding to comment about unaccounted children due to Harris' open border. It was not a pivot. 

Merkin Baller

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

I know it may be difficult for some, but follow the thread, I was responding to comment about unaccounted children due to Harris' open border. It was not a pivot. 

The border isn't "open". 

Learn about asylum laws & stop being so gullible. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

I know it may be difficult for some, but follow the thread, I was responding to comment about unaccounted children due to Harris' open border. It was not a pivot. 

Do you believe Donald Trump to be a person that wouldn’t sexually assault a 13 year old?

Bentleyspop

Merkin Baller said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

I know it may be difficult for some, but follow the thread, I was responding to comment about unaccounted children due to Harris' open border. It was not a pivot. 

The border isn't "open". 

Learn about asylum laws & stop being so gullible. 

But but but fuQer Qarlson said it's happening so it must he true.

Merkin Baller

Bentleyspop said:

Merkin Baller said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

'Kamala's to blame for sex trafficking' is a perfectly logical pivot from unprovable allegations of voter fraud & not at all batshit crazy. 

Seek help, PhillyNJ. 

I know it may be difficult for some, but follow the thread, I was responding to comment about unaccounted children due to Harris' open border. It was not a pivot. 

The border isn't "open". 

Learn about asylum laws & stop being so gullible. 

But but but fuQer Qarlson said it's happening so it must he true.

Quoting people who work for Steve Bannon as a source... 

What a world. 

Tim Simmons

"Sex trafficking is a problem, so I'm gonna vote for the GOP presidential candidate who was friends with a couple of them. He'll definitely know how to stop it. Well the brown ones at least, not the white Americans"  -PhillyNJ (probably)

gimmesometruth27

my dude just got cold fact checked. i nearly spit out my soda.

Poncier

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

I know it may be difficult for some, but follow the thread, I was responding to comment about unaccounted children due to Harris' open border. It was not a pivot. 

Do you believe Donald Trump to be a person that wouldn’t sexually assault a 13 year old?

Ivanka is older than that now.

The Juggler

There used to be normal republicans who posted in here. 

Johnny Abruzzo

Pretty sure most of the sexual abuse and trafficking is done by the Catholic Church and other large organized religion organizations. The main backers of the Republican Party. Which helps explain why the PA Senate is sabotaging the constitution amendment to lift the statute of limitations.

anyway...

My understanding is Delco has staffed up and is aiming to count all mail ballots by midnight on Tuesday November 5. Couldn't tell you about the other 66 counties.

Philly NJ

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Pretty sure most of the sexual abuse and trafficking is done by the Catholic Church and other large organized religion organizations. The main backers of the Republican Party. Which helps explain why the PA Senate is sabotaging the constitution amendment to lift the statute of limitations.

anyway...

My understanding is Delco has staffed up and is aiming to count all mail ballots by midnight on Tuesday November 5. Couldn't tell you about the other 66 counties.

Source for the Catholic Church and other large organized religion organizations sex trafficking at the border?

Bucks County has some issues with long lines and turning people away....there are allegations of voter suppression on the last day of early in-person voting.

Johnny Abruzzo

Well Opus Dei does it for sure. And they are sanctioned by the Catholic Church. I didn't say anything about the border; you're the one who never shuts up about it.

https://slate.com/life/2024/10/what-is-opus-dei-catholic-church-meaning.html

Early "in person" voting in PA is still quite flawed. It's applying for a mail-in ballot and submitting it right there, so quite convoluted. At this point it's pretty much too late to apply for mail-in. People need to just come to their precinct on Tuesday.

Kat

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