I should probably rephrase my comment, Mick, as I don't trust a lot of the polling out there...
"That trump has any chance in this race..." would have been a better choice of words.
it IS baffling for sure. long convo with my brother friday. I dont get it. well I do, because of his chosen news sources. did offer he include Reuters and AP to the mix. he was receptive to the idea.
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I theorize that the polling firms are all "fitting the data" to some 2020 turnout model or something, and it's resulting in the same "tied" race in every poll. Or maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Unfortunately, it still comes down to gender for many voters and couple that with her mixed race and she loses those voters for no legitimate reason. Even some of the comments by posters here about voting against Trump like there's something about her that is so terrible.
Sexism is gross, but it's still very prevalent, especially in suburbia and with minority men. Just look at the report WaPo just did on college athletes and the disparate amounts of money women are getting compared to their less talented male counterparts.
Saying they're voting against trump isn't a comment against Kamala. Many people are never-trumpers and would vote for anyone who runs against him, that isn't an insult to Kamala.
I theorize that the polling firms are all "fitting the data" to some 2020 turnout model or something, and it's resulting in the same "tied" race in every poll. Or maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better.
It's the same thing that happened in '22. Right wing pollsters are making it seem closer than it is, even giving Trump a slight advantage, which he will use as part of his plan to convince his supporters the election was stolen from him if he loses again.
I am skeptical that all these forecast models are adequately prepared to deal with these polling firms that are spitting out numbers that do not quite make a whole lot of sense given the incredible stability of the race up to about last week. Like nothing has happened over the last week to suggest a surge towards Trump (or a surge the other way, for that matter).
Either way, all of the change is within the margin of error. So whether some place gives up Trump a 53% chance or some other place gives Harris a 52% chance.....it's a flip of the coin. Always has been.
Early polling seems to look good for the dems....but again, the media is stupidly comparing it to 2020 when we were in a global pandemic.
Know what's gross? Inviting a 9/11 denier to the memorial with you.
Got any friends or family that died in the towers? I do, and that's fucking gross.
Jeez I actually do. Chill the fuck out. The amount of money that gets donated to politicians is GROSS. That’s all I was pointing out. I don’t even know what you’re referencing. Thanks for reminding me to stay away from this section. Wow.
They donate to get their agenda moved forward. It is that simple. I literally watched the second tower get hit from my rooftop. I still struggle with defining the appropriate response.
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
Maybe check your notes, the media presence schtick was the goal post marker a month ago, they moved on to she's dumb and can't make decisions because she's a woman. Next up will be that's she's a bitch who can't get along with anyone.
Your passive trolling is at least less abrasive than the last one on here. Nice work!
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
HRC had 20 years of baggage and damage from right wing media. Trump was also an unknown.
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
Maybe check your notes, the media presence schtick was the goal post marker a month ago, they moved on to she's dumb and can't make decisions because she's a woman. Next up will be that's she's a bitch who can't get along with anyone.
Your passive trolling is at least less abrasive than the last one on here. Nice work!
cant get along was already used and debunked. bunch of butthurt former MALE staffers took exception of how prepared she was......
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
Maybe check your notes, the media presence schtick was the goal post marker a month ago, they moved on to she's dumb and can't make decisions because she's a woman. Next up will be that's she's a bitch who can't get along with anyone.
Your passive trolling is at least less abrasive than the last one on here. Nice work!
Just calling it like i see it. I am not passing judgement on her. Nobody in my town is excited about Kamala. And we are as blue as it gets, at least on the east coast.
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
Maybe check your notes, the media presence schtick was the goal post marker a month ago, they moved on to she's dumb and can't make decisions because she's a woman. Next up will be that's she's a bitch who can't get along with anyone.
Your passive trolling is at least less abrasive than the last one on here. Nice work!
Just calling it like i see it. I am not passing judgement on her. Nobody in my town is excited about Kamala. And we are as blue as it gets, at least on the east coast.
Is your town 10 people and you know everyone? What an odd statement to make. I live in a township in the sticks and even here at least 30% of us are excited about her and I'm in red meat land of obnoxious over sized Trump flags and yard decorations like you'd see if Trump was a holiday celebration. Fucking weird.
It’s incredible that 45-50% of American voters are still not accepting the idea of a woman president in 2024
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
Yes. She is a much better candidate. Election is a coin toss either way though.
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
Disagree with this notion for sure. Clinton was much weaker simply due to having 30 years of political baggage under her belt. I could not stand her but felt as if I had to vote for her. Not even close to feeling the same way this time around and I think she will pull off the victory HRC could not.
His town is clearing indicative of the 150 million electorate though.
and of the other 90 million or so that were eligible in 22.... but did not vote.
am happy to say I inspired one friend disillusioned with it all to reregister. he and his wife already voted early. how he voted, I havent asked yet. will wait if I choose to ask . however he voted, it was most important he participate imo....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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"That trump has any chance in this race..." would have been a better choice of words.
it IS baffling for sure. long convo with my brother friday. I dont get it. well I do, because of his chosen news sources. did offer he include Reuters and AP to the mix. he was receptive to the idea.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
The race is more of less tied with Harris having a slight advantage. She is probably 11 out of 20 coinflips.
I am skeptical that all these forecast models are adequately prepared to deal with these polling firms that are spitting out numbers that do not quite make a whole lot of sense given the incredible stability of the race up to about last week. Like nothing has happened over the last week to suggest a surge towards Trump (or a surge the other way, for that matter).
Either way, all of the change is within the margin of error. So whether some place gives up Trump a 53% chance or some other place gives Harris a 52% chance.....it's a flip of the coin. Always has been.
Early polling seems to look good for the dems....but again, the media is stupidly comparing it to 2020 when we were in a global pandemic.
They donate to get their agenda moved forward. It is that simple. I literally watched the second tower get hit from my rooftop. I still struggle with defining the appropriate response.
And that is exactly why people need to be ready for a second Trump presidency, as much as I hate to say it. Hillary could not win. Is Kamala a better candidate?
I am not sure about her being a better candidate. Her media presence is weak.
Your passive trolling is at least less abrasive than the last one on here. Nice work!
cant get along was already used and debunked. bunch of butthurt former MALE staffers took exception of how prepared she was......
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
i still do not believe this race is even close. remember the red waves that have not materialized the last few cycles? what is past is prologue.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Just calling it like i see it. I am not passing judgement on her. Nobody in my town is excited about Kamala. And we are as blue as it gets, at least on the east coast.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
All this, 100%
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Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Mahalo.