** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

mickeyrat

teskeinc said:

Democrats sue to get candidates of ballots and win!
Saving Democracy wherever they go

and the reports of her campaign or the green party itself filed with paperwork to make her candidacy a state referendum are false?

no. accurate....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-orders-green-party-nominee-removed-from-nevada-ballot/ar-AA1qfZmp

Tim Simmons

Stein is a grifter. 

Poncier

Tim Simmons said:

Stein is a grifter. 

And much like Biden and Trump, too old to be running for President.

mickeyrat

part of me feels like if a candidate isnt on all ballots, they should be excluded completely.

teskeinc

Watching closely tonight with George Clooney. Will she “Still love Kamala” later or need to pull another “switch-a-roo”?

Merkin Baller

What a way to spend one's time. 

Tim Simmons

I don’t get why you think the Clooney thing is a winner. 

Halifax2TheMax

teskeinc said:

Watching closely tonight with George Clooney. Will she “Still love Kamala” later or need to pull another “switch-a-roo”?

George Clooney really concerns me. From Letter From An American:

Today, ten retired senior military officials endorsed Harris, saying she “is the best—and only—presidential candidate in this race who is fit to serve as our commander-in-chief…. Frankly stated, Donald Trump is a danger to our national security and our democracy. His own former National Security Advisors, Defense Secretaries, and Chiefs of Staff have said so.”

Go Beavers

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Gern Blansten

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 

Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?

I don't know.  Likely because state action violates the federal authority on the matter.  Either way,  it has nothing to do with people voting illegally.   Complete non-sequitur.

no shit...you think TX would be red if illegals voted? Ridiculously ignorant

teskeinc

Go Beavers said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?

If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?

The Juggler

The Juggler said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

The condescension and unearned arrogance embedded in a worldview like that is something that Democrats should try to dispel but I see waaaaay too many state proudly 

I see way too many examples of these people first hand to dispel that assessment as untrue. Not that there aren't similar people on the left, but I've seen many more on the right living in a rural district and having grown up in a farming community. These people have a particular skill set that they are good at so it's not that they're dumb, but when it come to critical thinking and analysis, it's a completely different baseline approach that flies in the face of reality. It's almost like they are proud to not seek truth and only go by the ramblings of a 78 year old pathological liar. It's baffling. 

And some examples are on display in this very forum/thread. 

bump

mrussel1

teskeinc said:

Go Beavers said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?

If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?

I already explained why.  It goes back to Jim Crow.  Like I said, you may disagree with it, but there is an actual historical precedent of suppressing minority votes with different types of poll taxes and hurdles.  There is no actual precedent of Democrats pushing people to vote illegally.  

Gern Blansten

teskeinc said:

Go Beavers said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?

If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?

You are voting for a guy that tried to strong arm the GA Sec of State to "find" 12000 more votes for him. A guy that attempted to stop the certification of the vote via Pence. A guy who was such a fucking little bitch that he didn't even show up for the transfer of power.

Merkin Baller

Go Beavers

teskeinc said:

Go Beavers said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?

If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?

I just told you why, and using a right citizens have as leverage to force people to do something because government knows what’s best for us is a no go for me. 

They’re in court because each state creates laws to maintain integrity of elections. 

gimmesometruth27

Tim Simmons said:

Stein is a grifter. 

and a russian asset.

The Juggler

njhaley1

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

Go Beavers said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?

If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?

There is no actual precedent of Democrats pushing people to vote illegally.  

On the contrary, most prosecuted cases of illegal voting that I've read about over the past several years have been...republicans.  

Halifax2TheMax

njhaley1 said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

Go Beavers said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 

Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  

So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 

Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 

Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?

If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?

There is no actual precedent of Democrats pushing people to vote illegally.  

On the contrary, most prosecuted cases of illegal voting that I've read about over the past several years have been...republicans.  

You’re woke, yo!