*** BARCELONA 2 - 2024 SETLIST THREAD ***

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  • Adam Hewett
    Adam Hewett Posts: 126
    I wonder what PJ thinks about looking out and seeing closed-off parts of the arena? The Murder Capital posted an on-stage video, and that massive (black) curtain looks huge from the stage.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    edited July 2024
    Rossdoc81 said:
    I was at Frankfurt and the place was wedged, it's was definitely sold-out.
    As far as I know every PJ show in Western Europe has sold out straight away every year.
    I think Budapest and Krakow shows did not fully sell out on the 2022 tour.
    Pearl Jam at Friends Arena in Stockholm in 2014 was not sold out. 22.000 tickets sold or something (not bad) but with empty seats in the corner with how far into the center they had put the stage.

    Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen play for 60-65.000 in that arena... so there are room for more than 22.000 also.

    They did sell out a smaller arena (15-16.000 I guess) in 2012 though. So could be they returned too soon, or 25.000 is above their sweetspot.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,768
    I wonder what PJ thinks about looking out and seeing closed-off parts of the arena? The Murder Capital posted an on-stage video, and that massive (black) curtain looks huge from the stage.
    I’m sure they don’t love it, but they are pros and Ed acknowledged it with some hand gestures before they played 1/2 Full.  He had a wry smile I think.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    Rossdoc81 said:
    I was at Frankfurt and the place was wedged, it's was definitely sold-out.
    As far as I know every PJ show in Western Europe has sold out straight away every year.
    I think Budapest and Krakow shows did not fully sell out on the 2022 tour.
    Pearl Jam at Friends Arena in Stockholm in 2014 was not sold out. 22.000 tickets sold or something (not bad) but with empty seats in the corner with how far into the center they had put the stage.

    Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen play for 60-65.000 in that arena... so there are room for more than 22.000 also.

    They did sell out a smaller arena (15-16.000 I guess) in 2012 though. So could be they returned too soon, or 25.000 is above their sweetspot.
    24,000, but who’s counting🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
  • HenriettaLowell
    HenriettaLowell Cologne, Germany Posts: 140
    HK103094 said:
    I know that Covid was still a factor then, but still, for comparison: Frankfurt in 2022 was far from sold out, and that venue has a capacity of 13500
    As I remember it, Frankfurt sold out imidiately in 2019. I bought 2 more tickets than I needed, and when I put them up for resale at the fan to fan, it was sold within 2 minutes.
    I‘m sure it sold out immediately in 2019, however, people then showing up three years later is a different story. There were quite a few empty spots scattered throughout and especially way up top (where I stood). As mentioned I suspect it was mainly due to Covid. I remember not everyone felt comfortable yet being at large gatherings that summer.

    Whether packed or not, my main point was that 24000 is a large arena, filling that twice back to back is no easy feat. I remember thinking as much way back when the shows were announced, and the same goes for the two Berlin ones. Had tickets been more affordable and had the shows been announced earlier, giving people more time to make travel arrangements, filling these places might have worked better. We can only speculate, of course. I‘m just saying there are a lot of factors and I wouldn‘t jump to the conclusion that the overall poor ticket sales reflect a waning popularity, as suggested earlier in the thread (and in other threads). 

  • HenriettaLowell
    HenriettaLowell Cologne, Germany Posts: 140
    pjl44 said:
    24k is big for the US. Larger arenas and amphitheatres are 17-20, smaller 8-12.

    Thanks, I thought so, it‘s similar over here
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    I wonder what PJ thinks about looking out and seeing closed-off parts of the arena? The Murder Capital posted an on-stage video, and that massive (black) curtain looks huge from the stage.
    I’m sure they don’t love it, but they are pros and Ed acknowledged it with some hand gestures before they played 1/2 Full.  He had a wry smile I think.  
    WAIT… THAT’S WHY THEY PLAYED 1/2 FULL? haha. Didnt male that connection
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,768
    I wonder what PJ thinks about looking out and seeing closed-off parts of the arena? The Murder Capital posted an on-stage video, and that massive (black) curtain looks huge from the stage.
    I’m sure they don’t love it, but they are pros and Ed acknowledged it with some hand gestures before they played 1/2 Full.  He had a wry smile I think.  
    WAIT… THAT’S WHY THEY PLAYED 1/2 FULL? haha. Didnt male that connection
    I believe so.  He definitely made a gesture indicating an awareness of the situation.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,891
    Very clever. I like that 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    edited July 2024
    I wonder what PJ thinks about looking out and seeing closed-off parts of the arena? The Murder Capital posted an on-stage video, and that massive (black) curtain looks huge from the stage.
    I’m sure they don’t love it, but they are pros and Ed acknowledged it with some hand gestures before they played 1/2 Full.  He had a wry smile I think.  
    WAIT… THAT’S WHY THEY PLAYED 1/2 FULL? haha. Didnt male that connection
    I believe so.  He definitely made a gesture indicating an awareness of the situation.  
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_lYP8GzRMY

    It is difficult to interpret whether his gesture refers to the situation in the venue. At first I thought I heard "this room is called half full". But I think he's saying "this one is called half full".
    Post edited by Zen23 on
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    Would be a pretty big coincidence if the choice to play 1/2 Full had nothing to do with the attendance.

    Great set - only minor gripe would have been not having Evenflow and Corduroy on both nights