Family/friends that are Tr*mp supporters?

MikeDigs

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

Yeah man that's sad af.

Low IQ / no critical thinking skills + self hatred / lashing out

A real lose-lose situation for society because the propaganda gasses these people to think that their current low-self worth form is fine.  They get their promise of social hierarchy and it's a warm blanket of comfort, so these people stay thoughtless, worthless, and low vibration, hindering society rather than contributing to it.

Then the other loss is the marginalized people that get put "lower" on the worth scale in society, thus making it harder for them to better themselves, and therefore better contribute to society.

The overall effect of these non-thinking, hateful, MAGA weirdos has a double impact to make the quality of our society lower. 

But it's ok for Jim Bob, because he's told it's all ok that he don't do much of that there thinkin,  since his political leaders assure him he's still better than women and minorities.   The poor dumb fucks, voting against their own interests with a smile on their face.   But at least he got to drink them Liberal tears ya'll.  Bless his heart.

HughFreakingDillon

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

MAGATs are temporarily empowered by their recent victory.  In time, they will see that they actually voted against what they wanted, and will not be so bold.  Actually, they will be filled with remorse.  And look at it this way- if they really felt good about their so-called victory, and really felt confident about the results, they wouldn't need to be making all these threats of violence.  Those outbursts reflect immature thinking, a lack of morality, and fear. 

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

MAGATs are temporarily empowered by their recent victory.  In time, they will see that they actually voted against what they wanted, and will not be so bold.  Actually, they will be filled with remorse.  And look at it this way- if they really felt good about their so-called victory, and really felt confident about the results, they wouldn't need to be making all these threats of violence.  Those outbursts reflect immature thinking, a lack of morality, and fear. 

sorry Brian, but I don't think they will ever see that. Part of being in a cult is never being able to acknowledge the wrongs of your leader. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

MAGATs are temporarily empowered by their recent victory.  In time, they will see that they actually voted against what they wanted, and will not be so bold.  Actually, they will be filled with remorse.  And look at it this way- if they really felt good about their so-called victory, and really felt confident about the results, they wouldn't need to be making all these threats of violence.  Those outbursts reflect immature thinking, a lack of morality, and fear. 

sorry Brian, but I don't think they will ever see that. Part of being in a cult is never being able to acknowledge the wrongs of your leader. 

They will very likely feel the harsh repercussions, but yeah, I suppose they will somehow blame it on Dems.  But hopefully a few will catch on.  Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

And then there's this, a reminder of the phony claims so many make about being "Christians".

Choccoloccotide

Halifax2TheMax

Choccoloccotide said:

Where’s your ability to explain how POOTWH is going to MAGA? A red pill or a blue pill? Why don’t you tell us?

josevolution

Halifax2TheMax said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Where’s your ability to explain how POOTWH is going to MAGA? A red pill or a blue pill? Why don’t you tell us?

1st you have to get rid of them the brown folks who are poisoning the country with their evil sperm! 

Bentleyspop

https://x.com/WonderKing82/status/1855745291569307789?t=MyiJebkKLkcrqytrEOHi3w&s=19

Spiritual_Chaos

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

I imagine the same would be said here by some fans if they didn’t risked being banned. 

People voting for everything Trump is and stands for have crossed a threshold. Or the rubicon if you pardon my french

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

MAGATs are temporarily empowered by their recent victory.  In time, they will see that they actually voted against what they wanted, and will not be so bold.  Actually, they will be filled with remorse.  And look at it this way- if they really felt good about their so-called victory, and really felt confident about the results, they wouldn't need to be making all these threats of violence.  Those outbursts reflect immature thinking, a lack of morality, and fear. 

sorry Brian, but I don't think they will ever see that. Part of being in a cult is never being able to acknowledge the wrongs of your leader. 

Yeah we've seen this pattern before. Normal people see these things but as soon as you think the magats get it you are down another worm hole.

There will be four years of weird shit going down with no criticism from magacult. Whatever he does is fine because they fully trust the piece of shit.

The deficit will explode...they don't care. Wait until the dems are back in and blame then for that. 

Our world reputation will be a laughing stock again....they don't see that because their tiktok/fb feed doesn't include any real news. They will only see the memes where trump is the greatest leader in history.

Gas prices will go up and down...he won't get blamed. Unemployment will increase...not his fault. Stock market will dip every so often...not because of him.

I do feel like I am done with the outrage at this point. There is some comfort to him getting the popular vote at least. As damaged as our system is and as archaic as this electoral college bullshit is we just need to sit back and let it happen. There will be absolute stupidity, there will be fraud, there will be millions of dollars paid to his resorts again to house secret service, etc. But fuck it. It's what the country wants.

Spiritual_Chaos

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

MAGATs are temporarily empowered by their recent victory.  In time, they will see that they actually voted against what they wanted, and will not be so bold.  Actually, they will be filled with remorse.  And look at it this way- if they really felt good about their so-called victory, and really felt confident about the results, they wouldn't need to be making all these threats of violence.  Those outbursts reflect immature thinking, a lack of morality, and fear. 

sorry Brian, but I don't think they will ever see that. Part of being in a cult is never being able to acknowledge the wrongs of your leader. 

Yeah we've seen this pattern before. Normal people see these things but as soon as you think the magats get it you are down another worm hole.

There will be four years of weird shit going down with no criticism from magacult. Whatever he does is fine because they fully trust the piece of shit.

The deficit will explode...they don't care. Wait until the dems are back in and blame then for that. 

Our world reputation will be a laughing stock again....they don't see that because their tiktok/fb feed doesn't include any real news. They will only see the memes where trump is the greatest leader in history.

Gas prices will go up and down...he won't get blamed. Unemployment will increase...not his fault. Stock market will dip every so often...not because of him.

I do feel like I am done with the outrage at this point. There is some comfort to him getting the popular vote at least. As damaged as our system is and as archaic as this electoral college bullshit is we just need to sit back and let it happen. There will be absolute stupidity, there will be fraud, there will be millions of dollars paid to his resorts again to house secret service, etc. But fuck it. It's what the country wants.

And importantly: They are so invested that they can’t back out and admit they were wrong

That’s how Trump can do more and more deplorable shit. Because they can’t let the other side be right with how much they have invested into their de facto fascism.  

It’s a Sunk cost fallacy

You can find this with some tenclubbers also, with how they excuse everything PJ does. STONE GOSSARD CAN SHOOT A MAN ON FIFTH AVENEUE

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

Gern Blansten

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

got called a pedo leftard on facebook who "should all be hung at the gallows" today just because I responded to a trump supporter saying they didn't understand tariffs. 

these people are deranged. 

MAGATs are temporarily empowered by their recent victory.  In time, they will see that they actually voted against what they wanted, and will not be so bold.  Actually, they will be filled with remorse.  And look at it this way- if they really felt good about their so-called victory, and really felt confident about the results, they wouldn't need to be making all these threats of violence.  Those outbursts reflect immature thinking, a lack of morality, and fear. 

sorry Brian, but I don't think they will ever see that. Part of being in a cult is never being able to acknowledge the wrongs of your leader. 

Yeah we've seen this pattern before. Normal people see these things but as soon as you think the magats get it you are down another worm hole.

There will be four years of weird shit going down with no criticism from magacult. Whatever he does is fine because they fully trust the piece of shit.

The deficit will explode...they don't care. Wait until the dems are back in and blame then for that. 

Our world reputation will be a laughing stock again....they don't see that because their tiktok/fb feed doesn't include any real news. They will only see the memes where trump is the greatest leader in history.

Gas prices will go up and down...he won't get blamed. Unemployment will increase...not his fault. Stock market will dip every so often...not because of him.

I do feel like I am done with the outrage at this point. There is some comfort to him getting the popular vote at least. As damaged as our system is and as archaic as this electoral college bullshit is we just need to sit back and let it happen. There will be absolute stupidity, there will be fraud, there will be millions of dollars paid to his resorts again to house secret service, etc. But fuck it. It's what the country wants.

And importantly: They are so invested that they can’t back out and admit they were wrong

That’s how Trump can do more and more deplorable shit. Because they can’t let the other side be right with how much they have invested into their de facto fascism.  

It’s a Sunk cost fallacy

You can find this with some tenclubbers also, with how they excuse everything PJ does. STONE GOSSARD CAN SHOOT A MAN ON FIFTH AVENEUE

I can't tell you how many times over the years I have thought "maybe he/she gets it now" about trumpsters in my fb feed because they stopped posting pro trump shit daily. Then here comes some sort of ultra fucked up meme saying Harris drinks baby blood or something.

The stupidity is just unreal.

Gern Blansten

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

What is odd to me are the votes in NC/PA, etc. where people voted only for trump...no one else. Not saying something illegal was going on but it sure does make you wonder given trump's comments to Johnson a few days before the election about their "secret" or something.

josevolution

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

What is odd to me are the votes in NC/PA, etc. where people voted only for trump...no one else. Not saying something illegal was going on but it sure does make you wonder given trump's comments to Johnson a few days before the election about their "secret" or something.

Are you saying that no one in those states voted for the Harris ticket? 

Gern Blansten

josevolution said:

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

What is odd to me are the votes in NC/PA, etc. where people voted only for trump...no one else. Not saying something illegal was going on but it sure does make you wonder given trump's comments to Johnson a few days before the election about their "secret" or something.

Are you saying that no one in those states voted for the Harris ticket? 

No I am saying that there were thousands of votes (reported) where the ballots only had a vote for trump on it...no vote for gov, senate, local, etc.

It's possible that was just a canvassing thing. Maybe trump canvassers were able to convince people that weren't going to vote to just show up and vote trump. Just seems odd.

josevolution

Gern Blansten said:

josevolution said:

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

What is odd to me are the votes in NC/PA, etc. where people voted only for trump...no one else. Not saying something illegal was going on but it sure does make you wonder given trump's comments to Johnson a few days before the election about their "secret" or something.

Are you saying that no one in those states voted for the Harris ticket? 

No I am saying that there were thousands of votes (reported) where the ballots only had a vote for trump on it...no vote for gov, senate, local, etc.

It's possible that was just a canvassing thing. Maybe trump canvassers were able to convince people that weren't going to vote to just show up and vote trump. Just seems odd.

Uhmm I didn’t realize that had happened! 

Spiritual_Chaos

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

What is odd to me are the votes in NC/PA, etc. where people voted only for trump...no one else. Not saying something illegal was going on but it sure does make you wonder given trump's comments to Johnson a few days before the election about their "secret" or something.

The question is, is this a common thing or something that just happened in this election? 

I'm pretty sure there is a subset of voters in Sweden, who just vote in the national election (parliament). And skips the region and municipality ballots.

For 2022:

National election: 84,17 %
Regions council: 80,2 %
Local municipality: 80,5 %

Lerxst1992

Gern Blansten said:

josevolution said:

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I just told the guy to get help and blocked him. You can't do anything else with someone like that. They are too far gone to be helped by a stranger online. 

I'd love to know what percentage of trump voters really are, tried and true MAGA. I'd assume it's quite low. Cults that young don't generally grow that large that fast. I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big number of his rally audience are people that follow him around like many follow pearl jam to multiple shows. There aren't THAT many people that are that unstable and in need of a cult leader. 

There are a couple here, one, who ever time time he mentions trump, it's always "president trump" and thanking him and congratulating him like he's someone to be revered. I don't know, I just don't subscribe to that shit. I call Trudeau the prime minister, but I don't refer to him as Prime Minister Trudeau. He's JT or Trudeau to me. He didn't do anything special to earn a title like a nobel prize winner or a doctor or a judge. They won popularity contests. Reminds me of being a king. You don't earn that shit. It's a birthright and nothing more. 

One thing that MAGAts keep mentioning why we "keep losing" is because we haven't figured out the average MAGAt. I think they're right, but not in the way they think. I can't understand a deranged cult member when I'm not in a cult. How could you? it's another level of fucking crazy. But the majority trump voters will just always vote R. I'm sure there's a lot of dem voters that didn't want to vote biden either, but they always vote D. 

I can't imagine why so many more million were so concerned about a second trump term turned out to vote in 2020 but then they didn't this time. That's bewildering to me. Trump got about the same as he did last time, so it's not like he flipped a bunch of D's or anything, but what was Kamala's final tally? like nearly 10M fewer than Biden? that's a fuckton. Are people really that influenced by the actual campaign? it's like it's who has the better marketing campaign. That's insane to me. Why vote if you don't put in the time to learn the actual platforms? Just watch a few attack ads and make your decision? That's crazy to me. 

If we trust the exit polls, 47 flipped about two percent of the vote in swing states (net @ 4%) , mostly Latinos  

Overall I would guess about 33% of voters are solid maga, and another 14% are loyal conservative voters. That’s a base of 47%. Hello Mitt! The additional four percent would be the flipped swing voters, mostly Latino.

in 2020, it’s possible the Dems got an additional couple percent because of the record breaking  mail in/ absentee votes. Dems just did not repeat that, and we likely lost millions of votes from those with mobility issues that mailed in their votes last time. The other reason for the short fall are the swing Latino voters.

Harris got taggged as trans, woke extreme, and made a couple of critical errors. Bill Clinton reached out to her to discuss a specific problem a trans ad by trump was having a big impact and she refused to respond with force.

She also did not attempt (or weakly did) to specifically blame trump for the Covid supply chain issues that led to inflation, and she got tagged for bidenflation as well. Two huge critical errors there. If she doesn’t learn from that, and I doubt she would, her political career is likely over.

What is odd to me are the votes in NC/PA, etc. where people voted only for trump...no one else. Not saying something illegal was going on but it sure does make you wonder given trump's comments to Johnson a few days before the election about their "secret" or something.

Are you saying that no one in those states voted for the Harris ticket? 

No I am saying that there were thousands of votes (reported) where the ballots only had a vote for trump on it...no vote for gov, senate, local, etc.

It's possible that was just a canvassing thing. Maybe trump canvassers were able to convince people that weren't going to vote to just show up and vote trump. Just seems odd.

I couldn’t find anything on this. Any of the “trusted” media covering it? If it’s true, and fraud existed , should be easy to investigate 

I thought the opposite happened, because the earliest warning sign i experienced that the Dems were in big trouble, is the NC Gov dem significantly was outperforming Harris as soon as the results were coming in. Also, Sen Casey in PA, who still may lose, outperformed Harris.