*** Seattle, WA 1 Fanviews Here 5.28.24 ***

Live2Fast

30 year 10C member. Band played great, new songs, old songs and covers were great… and I was so disappointed by the experience I may never see another PJ show. I’m really done with 10C Priority Ticketing that got me seats 3rd level, back of the arena. I can get tickets that bad on my own without the “benefit” of being in the 10C.  Not what I call a 10C fan experience.

Gern Blansten

Live2Fast said:

30 year 10C member. Band played great, new songs, old songs and covers were great… and I was so disappointed by the experience I may never see another PJ show. I’m really done with 10C Priority Ticketing that got me seats 3rd level, back of the arena. I can get tickets that bad on my own without the “benefit” of being in the 10C.  Not what I call a 10C fan experience.

There is absolutely no way that your 10c number would put you there if you are a 30 year member.

My guess is you let your membership lapse and reinstated it a few years ago.

lastexitlondon

It doesn't matter your 10c number no fan tickets should ever be that bad. Full stop. 

BloodMeridian80

Great show! Review/read the ticket rules. It was different this tour and was clearly stated that YOU could get 300 level if YOU chose that option. No FC member would be in that level unless you READ and wanted that option. Personal responsibility is a thing.

Finally heard Deep and Satan’s Bed. Little Wing was great. Highlight was MFM behind the head for Even Flow solo.

MS4677

BloodMeridian80 said:

Great show! Review/read the ticket rules. It was different this tour and was clearly stated that YOU could get 300 level if YOU chose that option. No FC member would be in that level unless you READ and wanted that option. Personal responsibility is a thing.

Finally heard Deep and Satan’s Bed. Little Wing was great. Highlight was MFM behind the head for Even Flow solo.

Clearly you are missing the bigger point. Lastexitlondon is 100% correct

Zod

I think you're both right.   10c separating out the levels with separate draws for only some of the arena shows, was a known thing, but not a great thing (and what was it only done at some shows?).

That being said, it is disappointing getting 10c tickets in the 3rd level, especially the back of the 3rd level.  I think the poster above is right, in than for many shows, with how far back 10c tickets are getting, unless you win GA, you might have better odds with ticketmaster/fan2fan than 10c.  For the Vancouver show, between 3 10c members who got tickets to both shows each (so 6 pairs over two nights) we used our own tickets for 1 out of 6, 2 out of 6 if you count we gave one pair to friends.   We were easily able to upgrade the remaining tickets which were in the rear of the 1st floor level, or rear floor.  Only my tickets got used.  

Given that most 10c benefits have been deleted, and fan club tickets getting pushed further and further back, is it going to cause a reduction in 10c members (especially those that haven't been in the 10c since before 2000).  

I don't know.  It's a tough conversation for sure.  Platinum tickets have really put a wrench in 10c ticketing, pushing 10c seats pretty far back in some cases.  Only to see TM blow out the platinum tickets at face value later on.... sigh.\

Back on topic. These are the first big Seattle shows I haven't gone to since '98.  I think I've been to all the Arena/Stadium shows since Seattle II '98.   A little jealous reading the reviews, but it wasn't in the cards this year.  Used funds and vacation days for other things :(

pjl44

Were uppers a separate draw in Seattle like other cities? If so, why put in for them if you don't want to sit there? I have no problem with 10C offering them and it's nice they make it a separate lottery.

gotthebottle

Charlie_mod said:

PJNB said:

I did not take too many pics but here are a couple I wanted to share 

Great pics. What a spot u had!!
im a san diego guy. Met bill many times. He loved rock and roll. He would be at many local shows and of course travel to see grateful dead/bobby shows. He loved playing drums and would sit in with local GD cover band (electric waste band) quite often. 

Was cool in ‘22 when he was called out at the PJ show. 

Saw him last at the Neil Young show a few weeks ago. Was sad seein him look so frail. But he was there!! Daaamm. RIP Bill. 

We will miss him here in San Diego. Nice pics. Seeing him in OB when he'd play with Mark Fisher...

tylermoore

The thing about people complaining about their seats. You find out almost right away where your seats are. It’s very easy to upgrade and dump unwanted tickets. 

At the same time fan club members should NOT have to do all that hassle. We should be given the best seats in the house, no if and or buts about it. 

I went 0-8 in the 10c lottery so I get the bitterness….still got fantastic seats in the long run. 

Eddieredder

tylermoore said:

The thing about people complaining about their seats. You find out almost right away where your seats are. It’s very easy to upgrade and dump unwanted tickets. 

At the same time fan club members should NOT have to do all that hassle. We should be given the best seats in the house, no if and or buts about it. 

I went 0-8 in the 10c lottery so I get the bitterness….still got fantastic seats in the long run. 

1. don't put in for those seats if they are unacceptable to you
2. sell them

Hard to sympathize when there were options, and they knew the risk/reward going in. 

Squirrel Jam

Great show (and Deep Sea Diver was amazing!), but I was disappointed in the general experience for two reasons: 1) To me, it didn't sound like the acoustics were significantly improved from those of the original Key Arena. I don't know the appropriate technical terminology to use to explain what I mean; it just sounded loud rather than clear/crisp. 2) The visuals on the screen were cool but, since I was too far away from the stage to see anything well, I would have preferred to see the band projected up there during the entire show. To be fair, maybe my expectations were unrealistic, based on the venue, so I'm just sharing this to find out if anyone else felt this way, and/or to get some feedback (no pun attended) from those who didn't, and were in similar seats (I was in 101) I am REALLY grateful I got to go at all and, like I said, they were awesome. I'm seeing them Thursday night from the same location, so hopefully I'll enjoy it better now that I know what it will be like. 

northerndragon

It was a great N1 in Seattle. Satan's Bed was a fantastic unexpected surprise and finished off Vitalogy for me outside of the "weird" songs(although I do truly want to hear Bugs and don't consider it one of those). It was a bit of a emotional rollercoaster from the tear inducing MOTH, to SB to a cathartic rocking Rearview, but I loved the whole ride. 
The only sour note to the evening being JB, which dropped this show to a 7/10 and should just be dropped altogether.
Sat side stage which was a great view and truly cool to see the screen reflected on the stage around the guys. Crowd was solid, can't wait for N2.

Seattle had GA, P1 & P2 as seat options, so if you picked P2 you can't really bitch as they explained what that option meant. I got a P2 seat through the lottery and then was able to upgrade through drops. Sold my previous tickets as I moved without issues. I'm for one am super grateful that I had confirmed at cost seats from the get go.

pjhawks

PJNB said:

I did not take too many pics but here are a couple I wanted to share 

Did say anything about Bill Walton? Did they dedicate song to him at all?

Eddieredder

Daner90 said:

Is there a video out there or the Yellow Wing? Would love to experience it

https://youtu.be/-OQtUDSUtbE?si=RRzaEtHQfmghFcW1

cutz

pjhawks said:

PJNB said:

I did not take too many pics but here are a couple I wanted to share 

Did say anything about Bill Walton? Did they dedicate song to him at all?

Yes they did: https://youtu.be/_mCRK8onn50?si=UXzHk6l3spHnm_L_

Nice pictures, PJNB

InHiding406

tylermoore said:

We should be given the best seats in the house, no if and or buts about it. 

A $35/yr membership that is open to anyone should entitle us to the best seats in the house? That’s an absolutely ludicrous statement. The shot at GA (or even P1 without the hassle of upgrading) easily justifies the cost. Sure I *wish* the lowest/closest seats were allocated to 10C and not Platinum, but the idea that 10C members deserve those seats without a doubt…lol. Maybe Eddie should also come give us all foot massages during Mike’s solos as proper thanks for standing through so many shows over the years 😂

I say this a 10C member with a mediocre number who got P2 seats for N2 through the drawing. 

ForceofNature101

How much pull does the Ten Club have with being able to demand only the best seats and sections with the venues in question?  To me it seems like the main perk of the 10C is the fact they have the lotteries and we as fans have more opourtunities to get tickets to shows (in general) as opposed to only relying on TM onsale dates

That said, if a person is so turned off by being in the 3rd section to the point of not wanting to see PJ anymore in general, I am suprised they didn't just go for GA and P1 and ommited P2

pjhawks

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

PJNB said:

I did not take too many pics but here are a couple I wanted to share 

Did say anything about Bill Walton? Did they dedicate song to him at all?

Yes they did: https://youtu.be/_mCRK8onn50?si=UXzHk6l3spHnm_L_

Nice pictures, PJNB

Thanks for sharing this. Beautiful song.  Surprised it wasn't mentioned in the setlist notes here that they played it for Bill Walton.  Was a big fan of his.  Sad to hear of his passing. Glad they mentioned something.

Zod

ForceofNature101 said:

How much pull does the Ten Club have with being able to demand only the best seats and sections with the venues in question?  To me it seems like the main perk of the 10C is the fact they have the lotteries and we as fans have more opourtunities to get tickets to shows (in general) as opposed to only relying on TM onsale dates

That said, if a person is so turned off by being in the 3rd section to the point of not wanting to see PJ anymore in general, I am suprised they didn't just go for GA and P1 and ommited P2

Yah, if it was a high demand place like Seattle, I would of put in for all 3 knowing I could get a nosebleed, but my plan would of been to spend time upgrading to a better ticket.  

I do miss the days when it was less hassle to get good tickets.  Put your name in, stand in line to pick up your tickets. You got what you got, but they were usually decent

n0_c0de

Squirrel Jam said:

Great show (and Deep Sea Diver was amazing!), but I was disappointed in the general experience for two reasons: 1) To me, it didn't sound like the acoustics were significantly improved from those of the original Key Arena. I don't know the appropriate technical terminology to use to explain what I mean; it just sounded loud rather than clear/crisp. 2) The visuals on the screen were cool but, since I was too far away from the stage to see anything well, I would have preferred to see the band projected up there during the entire show. To be fair, maybe my expectations were unrealistic, based on the venue, so I'm just sharing this to find out if anyone else felt this way, and/or to get some feedback (no pun attended) from those who didn't, and were in similar seats (I was in 101) I am REALLY grateful I got to go at all and, like I said, they were awesome. I'm seeing them Thursday night from the same location, so hopefully I'll enjoy it better now that I know what it will be like. 

I think the sound is much improved overall for sure. Sounded great to me. The only thing I noticed was that most of the Dark Matter rockers (scared of fear, react respond, dark matter, running) were REALLY LOUD and seemed a little out of balance, like the guitar and bass were drowning out the vocals a little but I assume that must've been by design. Ed has mentioned in a few sound clips "play the new record really loud!" so maybe that's how they preferred it.