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TA243471TA243471 Posts: 1,238
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Does anyone think they have been skipping Backspacer on purpose, so that they can play the full album one of the nights in Seattle next week?
  • 2006: Gorge 1
  • 2009: Seattle 1
  • 2013: Seattle
  • 2016: Wrigley 1 & 2
  • 2018: Seattle 1&2, Montana
  • 2020: San Diego, LA 1&2, Oakland 1&2
  • 2022: San Diego, LA 1&2, Fresno, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Denver
  • 2024: Vancouver 1, Portland, Las Vegas 1&2, Seattle 1&2, Missoula, Dana Point 1 & 2
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  • thomascbullockthomascbullock Posts: 417
    Not a chance.

    I love that they threw in Got Some the other day - it’s not gonna end up on any best of but it’s a solid fun rocker. Like a lot of Backspacer is that respect actually.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,525
    No one cares about Backspacer. 
    Including the band. 

    Even Unthought Known has died off as a live staple. Hasn’t it. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    There's just too many songs to play. Something's going to get left out. I'd actually love it if they'd bring back something completely out of left field of BS, like Force of Nature or Speed of Sound
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • lastexit78lastexit78 Posts: 618
    Pretty much everything post Yield has been shelved from consistent play minus the album they are touring for several decades now. Those first 5 albums have so many hits it’s impossible to equally add in songs from the other 6 albums and make room for Dark Matter. I’ve love more Binaural and Riot Act but it’s not happening. Those albums had their tours and time in the rotation.
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  • TA243471TA243471 Posts: 1,238
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    No one cares about Backspacer. 
    Including the band. 

    Even Unthought Known has died off as a live staple. Hasn’t it. 

    I'm hoping you are right.  I've always thought that if I ever was at a show they played a whole album, I would end up with Backspacer, and it never seems to leave my head.  Hopefully, with the 25 song sets, they only one they would even try it with would be Dark Matter.
    • 2006: Gorge 1
    • 2009: Seattle 1
    • 2013: Seattle
    • 2016: Wrigley 1 & 2
    • 2018: Seattle 1&2, Montana
    • 2020: San Diego, LA 1&2, Oakland 1&2
    • 2022: San Diego, LA 1&2, Fresno, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Denver
    • 2024: Vancouver 1, Portland, Las Vegas 1&2, Seattle 1&2, Missoula, Dana Point 1 & 2
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,570
    They're not playing a lot of Gigaton, either.
  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    darthvedder said:
    They're not playing a lot of Gigaton, either.
    Gigaton got the shaft and I’m not happy about it. 
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,050
    Do we think Ed has a good "Amongst The Waves" left in him? 
  • ForceofNature101ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,282
    In LA we got Got Some and Just Breathe!  

    I do think that it is hard fitting all the albums into the mix, and Backspacer is in an interesting spot where it isn't old enough to be one of the older albums that fans want cuts from but it isn't new enough to where the emphasis would be placed on it higher than any material off of the last couple of new albums
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    PJammin' said:
    darthvedder said:
    They're not playing a lot of Gigaton, either.
    Gigaton got the shaft and I’m not happy about it. 
    I couldn’t be happier. 
  • BR2428BR2428 Posts: 129
    Given that the one show on the Gigaton tour I was supposed to attend was postponed and that I couldn’t make the rescheduled date, I would have like to have had more Gigaton at my show this year.
  • Planet of SoundPlanet of Sound Posts: 628
    I’m quite happy with the mix of songs this year, with a lot of love for the first six albums and the Dark Matter songs which they are rightly proud of, with the odd later career song thrown in.
  • We All BelieveWe All Believe Posts: 590
    SandyRavage said:
    Do we think Ed has a good "Amongst The Waves" left in him? 
    I hope so. That's my all-time favorite PJ song. I have "If not for love, I would be drowning.", a wave, and the initials of my grandfather, mom, and brother tattooed on my arm. I've only heard it 3 times. Would LOVE to hear it again. 
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  • yosiyosi Posts: 3,037
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    No one cares about Backspacer. 
    Including the band. 

    Even Unthought Known has died off as a live staple. Hasn’t it. 
    Thank goodness. Only song on Backspacer worth playing is Force of Nature. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi Posts: 3,037
    ForceofNature101 said:
    In LA we got Got Some and Just Breathe!  

    I do think that it is hard fitting all the albums into the mix, and Backspacer is in an interesting spot where it isn't old enough to be one of the older albums that fans want cuts from but it isn't new enough to where the emphasis would be placed on it higher than any material off of the last couple of new albums
    Also, it’s just not that good. Way more songs off of Lightning Bolt I’d rather hear than from BS. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • shepshep Posts: 5,797
    yosi said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    No one cares about Backspacer. 
    Including the band. 

    Even Unthought Known has died off as a live staple. Hasn’t it. 
    Thank goodness. Only song on Backspacer worth playing is Force of Nature. 
    Y'all are fucking nuts. Unthought known is one of my favorite pearl jam tunes. I will listen to it back to back with upper hand. So good.

    Not to mention supersonic, getaway, or speed of sound.

    The fact is that they have too many albums and just 2:20 minutes to play. I want them to play all fucking night. Every tour post covid I have left just feeling it's too short.. I need more. Toronto in 2011 spoiled me rotten.

    Don't shoot the messenger, but lightning bolt has been played exactly once since 2018.... and that is a fucking tragedy...

    Just embrace what they give you and be happy they are still killing it live... if that's not doing it for you, I suggest you take a break for a year and try it again.... a 5 year gap due to kids and life made every tune special again... even those I don't love.

    See you in chi-town.
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  • goldrushgoldrush Posts: 7,538
    PJammin' said:
    darthvedder said:
    They're not playing a lot of Gigaton, either.
    Gigaton got the shaft and I’m not happy about it. 
    I’m hoping for a couple of Gigaton songs in Australia this year. We haven’t had a tour since 2014 so nothing from that record has ever been played here.

    I’ve seen all of the BS songs that I need to see, but I always enjoy Got Some.
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

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  • yosiyosi Posts: 3,037
    shep said:
    yosi said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    No one cares about Backspacer. 
    Including the band. 

    Even Unthought Known has died off as a live staple. Hasn’t it. 
    Thank goodness. Only song on Backspacer worth playing is Force of Nature. 
    Y'all are fucking nuts. Unthought known is one of my favorite pearl jam tunes. I will listen to it back to back with upper hand. So good.

    Not to mention supersonic, getaway, or speed of sound.

    The fact is that they have too many albums and just 2:20 minutes to play. I want them to play all fucking night. Every tour post covid I have left just feeling it's too short.. I need more. Toronto in 2011 spoiled me rotten.

    Don't shoot the messenger, but lightning bolt has been played exactly once since 2018.... and that is a fucking tragedy...

    Just embrace what they give you and be happy they are still killing it live... if that's not doing it for you, I suggest you take a break for a year and try it again.... a 5 year gap due to kids and life made every tune special again... even those I don't love.

    See you in chi-town.
    While I disagree with your take on Backspacer tunes, I will never not be grateful for getting to see this band live. No more gaps needed (did a 5 year gap twice) and while there are lots of songs I haven’t heard that I hope to, there are plenty of staples I would be sad not to hear. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,525
    I want Got Some again :/
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    Got some was on point at the LA show, never thought I’d hear it again
  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,281
    Got Some is a great tune. At this point with so much PJ material to choose from and shorter sets I would only ever want to hear three songs off BS. 
    1.  Amongst the Waves
    2.  Got Some
    3.  Unthought Known
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    I prefer BS and LB over gigaton. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,525
    Abe Froman said:
    Got Some is a great tune. At this point with so much PJ material to choose from and shorter sets I would only ever want to hear three songs off BS. 
    1.  Amongst the Waves
    2.  Got Some
    3.  Unthought Known
    1. Got Some
    2. Force of Nature
    3. Gonna See My Friends/Supersonic
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,514
    edited May 27
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Got Some is a great tune. At this point with so much PJ material to choose from and shorter sets I would only ever want to hear three songs off BS. 
    1.  Amongst the Waves
    2.  Got Some
    3.  Unthought Known
    1. Got Some
    2. Force of Nature
    3. Gonna See My Friends/Supersonic

    Post edited by OffSheGoes35 on
  • yosiyosi Posts: 3,037
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Got Some is a great tune. At this point with so much PJ material to choose from and shorter sets I would only ever want to hear three songs off BS. 
    1.  Amongst the Waves
    2.  Got Some
    3.  Unthought Known
    1. Got Some
    2. Force of Nature
    3. Gonna See My Friends/Supersonic
    1. Force of Nature
    2. Force of Nature
    3. Force of Nature
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    If I was at a Backspacer full show, I'd be honestly pretty ok with that. I dig that record, great live energy to those tunes. 
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  • opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,197
    SandyRavage said:
    Do we think Ed has a good "Amongst The Waves" left in him? 
    Sounded great in San Diego the other year
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  • MikeDigsMikeDigs Posts: 1,497
    edited May 27
    How no votes for Just Breathe?  It was beautiful in LA.  Even Dave Matthews is playing Just Breathe in his recent sets.
    https://youtu.be/_jMFobz59s8?si=ntzz_HsWPuH0vkmf
    And The Fixer is my favorite song on BS but I don't ever see it mentioned.  BS has a bunch of nice tracks
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  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,646
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    If I was at a Backspacer full show, I'd be honestly pretty ok with that. I dig that record, great live energy to those tunes. 
    It’s quietly aged better than expected. It’s much more digestible than it was 15 years ago. 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,503
    Gibson said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    If I was at a Backspacer full show, I'd be honestly pretty ok with that. I dig that record, great live energy to those tunes. 
    It’s quietly aged better than expected. It’s much more digestible than it was 15 years ago. 
    It was only 37 minutes long fifteen years ago. Has inflation made it seem shorter now?

    "Force of Nature" is the standout track that I wish had gotten more exposure live, but it's a really tough one to sing. And "Getaway," for whatever reason, they just couldn't figure out how to translate it live.
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