Show/Travel Fatigue = Fight It, or Listen

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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    MikeDigs said:
    The travel by itself is draining.  Especially Pacific to Eastern timezone.  Add in that you had a connecting flight, on top of standing for both shows.  That will really take all of your energy and more. 

    Due to the extra time and energy required to travel all the way back east, then out west again, I would have stayed out west and traveled from Vegas to LA.  Only if possible.

    I would take the much needed rest.  You already have an amazing lineup of shows remaining.  LA 1 & 2 are my only shows.   I wish I could do more.
    It so is. And I've been doing Delta & Jetblue, so these are fairly comfy seats & the trip STILL kicks my ass. 

    I would've stayed, but couldn't. But if I end up not going, I hope you have 2 incredibly kick ass shows the next couple of days🤘
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,448
    I vote listen to your body. Sounds like you already have a lot to look forward to. 

  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.
    Only ways I'll regret it:

    - they open with Oceans, then never again.
    - either night gets a Mamasan Trilogy.
    - Comes Then Goes gets played for the first (and probably last) time.
    - Miley Cyrus joins the band on stage for Just Breathe
    - all of Vitalogy is played, or hell... Dark Matter in order
    - Stone gets to do Don't Gimme No Lip AND Mankind
    - they revisit Comfortably Numb, or Mother
    - they play Alone, Brother, Just a Girl, Hold On, Gremmie, Pilate, All Those Yesterdays, Parting Ways, Sad, Undone, Other Side, Gonna See My Friend, or Of the Earth.
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,146
    We aren’t in our 20s anymore.  I say listen to your body.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    In 2015 I flew to South America to see them in Chile and Argentina and then flew back home to Indiana. About 10 days later I flew back to Brazil to see them in Rio, Bogota and Mexico City.  I've driven 32 hours from Edmonton to Indy back in 2011.  I'm not stranger to your plight of wanting to see as many shows as you can.

    My thought:  Listen to your body and mind as they are clearly telling you that you'd probably prefer to have some good rest at home and check some other things off the to do list.  I was a hardcore merch hunter for years, and had a poster for all 80 of my shows at the time.  I sold my most expensive poster and it didn't phase me at all (and kept selling).  Quit merch game basically cold turkey after that except for collecting the stickers and now don't even do much effort to get them unless they are available during the show.  My point is if you skip the shows you probably will find you don't regret it at all and probably will be glad you did.  

    I think you should realize that the legendary show is no longer out there, and certainly not in LA.  You don't need to worry about missing the next State College, Boston III, MSG 2010, or Philly 2016.  What you got in Vegas is going to be what you get in LA, except Hail, Hail may be replaced by Grievance, and OUt of my Mind by Undone.  I think you'll be satisfied with the 7 shows you have on the books.  

  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Go Animal said:
    If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.
    Only ways I'll regret it:

    - they open with Oceans, then never again.
    - either night gets a Mamasan Trilogy.
    - Comes Then Goes gets played for the first (and probably last) time.
    - Miley Cyrus joins the band on stage for Just Breathe
    - all of Vitalogy is played, or hell... Dark Matter in order
    - Stone gets to do Don't Gimme No Lip AND Mankind
    - they revisit Comfortably Numb, or Mother
    - they play Alone, Brother, Just a Girl, Hold On, Gremmie, Pilate, All Those Yesterdays, Parting Ways, Sad, Undone, Other Side, Gonna See My Friend, or Of the Earth.
    Pretend one of the versions of "Alive" you heard in Vegas was "Footsteps" and it's just like you got Momma-Son.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    In 2015 I flew to South America to see them in Chile and Argentina and then flew back home to Indiana. About 10 days later I flew back to Brazil to see them in Rio, Bogota and Mexico City.  I've driven 32 hours from Edmonton to Indy back in 2011.  I'm not stranger to your plight of wanting to see as many shows as you can.

    My thought:  Listen to your body and mind as they are clearly telling you that you'd probably prefer to have some good rest at home and check some other things off the to do list.  I was a hardcore merch hunter for years, and had a poster for all 80 of my shows at the time.  I sold my most expensive poster and it didn't phase me at all (and kept selling).  Quit merch game basically cold turkey after that except for collecting the stickers and now don't even do much effort to get them unless they are available during the show.  My point is if you skip the shows you probably will find you don't regret it at all and probably will be glad you did.  

    I think you should realize that the legendary show is no longer out there, and certainly not in LA.  You don't need to worry about missing the next State College, Boston III, MSG 2010, or Philly 2016.  What you got in Vegas is going to be what you get in LA, except Hail, Hail may be replaced by Grievance, and OUt of my Mind by Undone.  I think you'll be satisfied with the 7 shows you have on the books.  

    Certainly not in L.A.? I've seen some pretty phenomenal shows in L.A., and San Diego, too. Two of the best shows I've seen were in Glendale, Arizona. I've seen them eight times at MSG and I'd put the four nights in L.A. in 2009 over all of them.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited May 2024
    I've done the redeye after shows a few times and it definitely takes a lot out of you. Since it didn't get you home until 6 pm anyway, staying over was the way to go, but what's done is done. I'd see how you feel in the morning after a good night's sleep. That often makes a world of difference when I'm fatigued. If you're up to it, you could go to the shows and just take it easy. Skip the daytime merch, get seats, and skip the opener. That's a lot less grueling than what you put yourself through in Vegas. Unless you're really not feeling well, in which case it's probably best to rest up,
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    BF25394 said:
    Go Animal said:
    If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.
    Only ways I'll regret it:

    - they open with Oceans, then never again.
    - either night gets a Mamasan Trilogy.
    - Comes Then Goes gets played for the first (and probably last) time.
    - Miley Cyrus joins the band on stage for Just Breathe
    - all of Vitalogy is played, or hell... Dark Matter in order
    - Stone gets to do Don't Gimme No Lip AND Mankind
    - they revisit Comfortably Numb, or Mother
    - they play Alone, Brother, Just a Girl, Hold On, Gremmie, Pilate, All Those Yesterdays, Parting Ways, Sad, Undone, Other Side, Gonna See My Friend, or Of the Earth.
    Pretend one of the versions of "Alive" you heard in Vegas was "Footsteps" and it's just like you got Momma-Son.
    When Once queued up, I got wide-eyed 👀 my line buddies knew I was chasing it so they were looking at me like Nicholson in Anger Management 🤣 when Something Special came on I snapped back to reality ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,138
    I don't travel home the night of a show. I get that it saves hotel money, or saves a vacation day at work, but it's a recipe for disaster and I know it will be my least productive day of work ever and I'll feel physically terrible. Get a good night's sleep after the show, submit to leisurely travel day, and go back to work life/refreshed. I also no longer travel the day of a show. I once had a delayed flight and * almost * missed a connection that would have caused me to miss the show entirely. Fortunately I did arrive in time. Travel a day or two before and avoid the stress.
  • efroten2
    efroten2 Chicago Posts: 83
    I'm in the same ag/shape situation.
    I don't go to a ton of shows each year, I'm in Chicago so I see them when they are in town and maybe another nearby but I've been to 36 total shows since 94.
    I just flew to see them in Sacramento but had seats so wasn't GA. I flew home the next day and was pretty damn tired from standing all night for the show and getting up early for the flight home the next morning.
    I somehow pulled GA for Missoula and both Chicago shows this year and even though they are a week apart I'm kind of rethinking going for GA for the three shows. Especially the 2x Wrigley shows. I don't plan on getting there stupid early, but even getting there around 6 or so is a long night of just standing.
    Props to those who can do this a lot more. 
    1994: Bridge School Night 2
    1995: Sacramento, San Jose
    1998: Sacramento
    2001: Bridge School Night 2
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    2004: Grand Rapids
    2006: Chicago 1, Chicago 2, Cleveland, Milwaukee 2
    2007: Chicago (The Vic), Chicago (Lolla)
    2009: Chicago 1, Chicago 2
    2010: Noblesville
    2013: Chicago, San Diego
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    2016: Chicago 1 & 2
    2018: Chicago 1 & 2
    2011: PJ20 1 & 2
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    efroten2 said:
    I'm in the same ag/shape situation.
    I don't go to a ton of shows each year, I'm in Chicago so I see them when they are in town and maybe another nearby but I've been to 36 total shows since 94.
    I just flew to see them in Sacramento but had seats so wasn't GA. I flew home the next day and was pretty damn tired from standing all night for the show and getting up early for the flight home the next morning.
    I somehow pulled GA for Missoula and both Chicago shows this year and even though they are a week apart I'm kind of rethinking going for GA for the three shows. Especially the 2x Wrigley shows. I don't plan on getting there stupid early, but even getting there around 6 or so is a long night of just standing.
    Props to those who can do this a lot more. 
    If you decide to let any of those GAs go, holla 
  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,672
    edited May 2024
    You could always just take a reserved seat rather than push through to get GA. Saves you all day standing. You can arrive way later, sit till the band hit the stage, or whenever you feel you need to sit. I have 2 nights reserved in LA right behind the pit. Glad I don’t have to que up all day. I will for Ohana, but I will have time to prepare for that.
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    SHZA said:
    I've done the redeye after shows a few times and it definitely takes a lot out of you. Since it didn't get you home until 6 pm anyway, staying over was the way to go, but what's done is done. I'd see how you feel in the morning after a good night's sleep. That often makes a world of difference when I'm fatigued. If you're up to it, you could go to the shows and just take it easy. Skip the daytime merch, get seats, and skip the opener. That's a lot less grueling than what you put yourself through in Vegas. Unless you're really not feeling well, in which case it's probably best to rest up,
    It was supposed to be 4pm, but MCO is a pit of despair & needs to be demolished. Even the new Terminal C. No signage, skeleton crew, and too long. The guys from Die Hard 2 would've won in 3 minutes.

    But yeah, no more red eyes after shows unless it's absolutely the only option. 

    I feel like I could pull it off tomorrow, but I'd be forcing myself to. Like an advance case of FOMO. I've just about made up my mind, but I am still gonna sleep on it.

    If I'm given a sign & I feel great, I'm flying. If not, I will live vicariously through everyone going🤙
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    ceska said:
    I don't travel home the night of a show. I get that it saves hotel money, or saves a vacation day at work, but it's a recipe for disaster and I know it will be my least productive day of work ever and I'll feel physically terrible. Get a good night's sleep after the show, submit to leisurely travel day, and go back to work life/refreshed. I also no longer travel the day of a show. I once had a delayed flight and * almost * missed a connection that would have caused me to miss the show entirely. Fortunately I did arrive in time. Travel a day or two before and avoid the stress.
    Gonna be doing this more often.
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    efroten2 said:
    I'm in the same ag/shape situation.
    I don't go to a ton of shows each year, I'm in Chicago so I see them when they are in town and maybe another nearby but I've been to 36 total shows since 94.
    I just flew to see them in Sacramento but had seats so wasn't GA. I flew home the next day and was pretty damn tired from standing all night for the show and getting up early for the flight home the next morning.
    I somehow pulled GA for Missoula and both Chicago shows this year and even though they are a week apart I'm kind of rethinking going for GA for the three shows. Especially the 2x Wrigley shows. I don't plan on getting there stupid early, but even getting there around 6 or so is a long night of just standing.
    Props to those who can do this a lot more. 
    I hear ya. And part of why tomorrow's shows are on the chopping block is because I've got Wrigley, MSG & Ohana to look forward to. I've never done Wrigley, and the other 2 my favorites.

    Makes the decision a little easier, y'know?

    P.S. r.i.p. your DM's right now, lol
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,371
    You could always just take a reserved seat rather than push through to get GA. Saves you all day standing. You can arrive way later, sit till the band hit the stage, or whenever you feel you need to sit. I have 2 nights reserved in LA right behind the pit. Glad I don’t have to que up all day. I will for Ohana, but I will have time to prepare for that.
    That would definitely be the plan! The only thing really holding me back at this point is the flight from FL to LAX. And back😅

    Happy I pulled off Vegas, but man it kicked my ass.
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,020
    edited May 2024
    I don’t get fatigued from traveling for the band, but I have been getting sick lately a few days after shows. I just went to Vegas 1 and I’ve been congested with a migraine since Saturday. This has been a theme for the last few tours.

    I skip merch 90% of the time, and the opening band 60% of the time. I prefer great seats within the first 8 rows, first section next to the stage than GA at this point. If I win GA I’m going GA, but I’m walking in on my time. If it’s 630pm great, if it’s 8pm so be it. Walked into MSG ‘22 GA at 7:30pm and just sat my ass on the back rail. FW1 walked in at 7:30pm again, but went Stone’s side and got 5th row. 

    When traveling I think it’s imperative to give yourself 36 hours after getting home for personal time. I also will only fly non-stop unless I’m desperate. 

    Post edited by HailHailVitalogy on
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    With respect to traveling home on the night of the show, I've never done it where it involved a flight. I've only done it when driving. The reality is that I'm not getting to sleep any time soon after I get out of a show at 11:15 p.m. all hopped up with adrenaline. By the time I get to a hotel, wind down and get to sleep, it's going to be at least 2 a.m. If I get right on the road, I'm practically home by the time I would have been asleep at the hotel. I got home (to L.A.) from Vegas at 3:20 a.m. Losing a whole day to travel is not something I find particularly restful. And when you're going to ten shows in six cities, you don't necessarily want to lose a whole day on the front and back ends of each trip. I have other things to do.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,967
    I've fucked up before because I didn't listen to what I know to be correct with my health.
    That said I'm probably gonna do it again 


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