Show/Travel Fatigue = Fight It, or Listen

Go Animal

Here's my situation, and I'm looking for some perspective (or dare I say council) from those of who may have been in similar scenarios:

Been home from Vegas for a day. Went to both nights, and was in GA for both. I rested when I could but really didn't have a chance to on Saturday. 

Checked out of my hotel, stashed my bags at the nearest bellstand, and had a pre-scheduled Uber waiting to take me to LAS airport at the end of N2.

Caught the red eye to JFK, then lounged around until it was time for my connecting flight back to FL. Got home yesterday by about 6pm. Jet-lagged, but successful. 

Went to sleep, and woke up not knowing what day it was. I slept in intervals on my 2 flights, but nothing substantial. So, I've been feeling it today. That, and my feet & ankles are shredded from the GA exp (inside & out).

Now... 

I was really looking forward to doing LA 1 & 2. But man, am I tired. 

I'm early 40's, could lose a few pounds. Can't do this like I used to. But it's my favorite band, y'know? My question is:

Have any of you ever been like "I just need a little break"? 

I mean, everything is cancelable. My flight, rental, and hotel. Hell, I even dumped my 10C tix on F2F to see if I could get better ones. Upgraded twice, and decided before Vegas to give it a shot on the day-of for LA1 & 2.

So, currently ticketless lol.

Does fatigue ever set in for any of you? Knowing you'll see the boys again soon? (In my case: Wrigley, MSG, possible Fenway 2 & definitely Ohana).

Share your thoughts & experiences, please. I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I just might come sunrise 🌅 

Go Animal

(Definitely looking to get @SHZA's take on this. And @PJNB, @RatherStarved, amongst others).

josevolution

I’m tired just reading your thread! 🪡 

Zod

Not because of exhaustion, but I feel like if I go to more than a few shows every few years I start to take it for granted.  The Even Flows, Corduroy's, DTE's... they start wearing on me.

I seem to to enjoy going to shows more if I only go to a few every couple of years kind of thing.

This was the first year I skipped big Seattle shows  in over 25 years, but with two in Vancouver, that satiated my appetite.

Use the resources to buy Foo Fighters Seattle tickets for August.   Really liked their new album and would like to see this tour.

I guess that's me though.  2 or 3 shows every 2 to 3 years and I'm golden

Go Animal

josevolution said:

I’m tired just reading your thread! 🪡 

You don't wanna see my ankles, bro😅Ever skipped a PJ show you knew you could make? 

2-feign-reluctance

I vote listen to your body. Sounds like you already have a lot to look forward to. 

Go Animal

Zod said:

Not because of exhaustion, but I feel like if I go to more than a few shows every few start to take it for granted.  The Even Flows, Corduroy's, DTE's... they start wearing on me.

I seem to to enjoy going to shows more if I only go to a few every couple of years kind of thing.

This was the first year I skipped big Seattle shows  in over 25 years, but with two in Vancouver, that satiated my appetite.

Use the resources to buy Foo Fighters Seattle tickets for August.   Really liked their new album and would like to see this tour.

I guess that's me though.  2 or 3 shows every 2 to 3 years and I'm golden

I mean, that worked out pretty well for ya! Some first time plays from DM. Alone?!? Chloe/Crown. And that sweet Bobcaygeon tag. 

And if I don't go, the resources will go towards David Gilmour in November 😎

PJNB

I think as we get older it is smart to listen to your body. 

If you normally drink or do any kind of drugs before a show maybe don’t do that at all and hit the LA shows. Also skip merch. Always skip merch actually lol

You can sit down during Eddie’s talking moments or when they play Just Breathe(kidding) etc if you have a seat. Show up at 800pm after resting at the hotel most of the day. Don’t eat too salty of foods helps as well with the swelling. 

It’s doable but if you are worn the fuck out there are other shows. 

RatherStarved

I’d say go to the shows and get seats.  I only regret shows I could have gone to and didn’t.  

Go Animal

2-feign-reluctance said:

I vote listen to your body. Sounds like you already have a lot to look forward to. 

I'm leaning that way (lit & fig). Hell, I had to use a cane for the Austin shows last year. 

Go Animal

PJNB said:

I think as we get older it is smart to listen to your body. 

If you normally drink or do any kind of drugs before a show maybe don’t do that at all and hit the LA shows. Also skip merch. Always skip merch actually lol

You can sit down during Eddie’s talking moments or when they play Just Breathe(kidding) etc if you have a seat. Show up at 800pm after resting at the hotel most of the day. Don’t eat too salty of foods helps as well with the swelling. 

It’s doable but if you are worn the fuck out there are other shows. 

Yeah I learned from you & @steven87 to just skip the merch line altogether. Coincidentally, waiting for merch at LA 1 & 2 in 2022 kicked my ass, and I think I would've had a better time if I'd just slept or went to the pool.

No drugs, and I usually wait to have a beer in the venue. But maybe that doesn't help? Definitely gonna watch the salty foods next time, no matter where that is.

I did LA 2 last time with @RatherStarved & it was nice to sit during some of the lulls😅Buckle Up was a nice respite, too😏

I mean, it's all still doable (for the next 24 hrs lol) but there will be other shows...

Go Animal

RatherStarved said:

I’d say go to the shows and get seats.  I only regret shows I could have gone to and didn’t.  

Do tell! What were they? Because I'm gonna be hella pissed if I skip LA, and I miss Oceans or something from my want list😅

BF25394

You've got to know your own limits and act accordingly. I have been spread very thin this month hitting all of these cities. I slept overnight in the Portland airport and drove back to L.A. through the night from Sacramento and Vegas, but I wouldn't have done any of that if not for the fact that I'm generally quite healthy and physically active and know I can tolerate it. I exercise vigorously literally every day-- including every day throughout this period no matter where I have been-- so my stamina is good and standing and/or bouncing up and down for hours doesn't really faze me. And I don't drink or smoke or do anything else that might run me even more ragged. But, even still, I don't think I would have done this if there weren't several days off between each city to catch up at home and rest a little, and I probably wouldn't make multiple cross-country trips in a span of a couple of days as you would have to do here. Whatever you decide to do, be careful. We need you for the next tour.

Go Animal

BF25394 said:

You've got to know your own limits and act accordingly. I have been spread very thin this month hitting all of these cities. I slept overnight in the Portland airport and drove back to L.A. through the night from Sacramento and Vegas, but I wouldn't have done any of that if not for the fact that I'm generally quite healthy and physically active and know I can tolerate it. I exercise vigorously literally every day-- including every day throughout this period no matter where I have been-- so my stamina is good and standing and/or bouncing up and down for hours doesn't really faze me. And I don't drink or smoke or do anything else that might run me even more ragged. But, even still, I don't think I would have done this if there weren't several days off between each city to catch up at home and rest a little, and I probably wouldn't make multiple cross-country trips in a span of a couple of days as you would have to do here. Whatever you decide to do, be careful. We need you for the next tour.

Sage words. Thanks, man I'll tell ya, I'm all over the place with exercise, and I need to be more dedicated.

In fact, the only reason I probably didn't die is when I had my layover at JFK, I went outside & did some stretches. Mixed with some deep breaths, it did wonders.

Even as I'm typing in this thread, I'm laying here with my dog who's gonna turn 10 this year & I just wanna enjoy as much time with him as possible. 

I've got some legendary venues lined up for later in the year that won't hit me as hard. And even if LA 1 & 2 end up being classics, Vegas 1 & 2 (especially N1) was pretty damn spectacular. 

Edved007

I was GA for both Vegas as well.  Flew out there with seats for both, and each day was able to work deals for GA..how do you say no to GA right?!  I'm happy I did, but I'm in the same boat, turn 45 next week, not unhealthy by any means, but not exactly in shape either...my back, legs, and feet are really not happy.  I love the band, and will see them every opportunity I possibly can, but maybe I don't need GA both nights anymore you know? I had great aisle seats for N2 in the first wing section, probably would have been just as happy having those seats...could have wandered in at my leisure, and just stood up at show time, that might be my plan going forward.

Long winded way of saying if you're up for making the trip, I'd go, but get the seats, chill out a bit, and enjoy the shows with no physical or mental stress....and if your body is telling you no, well then I'd listen....I'm getting to the age where I have to start listening to mine as well as much as I don't want to.  I feel 25, until I do something like this weekend and am quickly reminded I am not. 

pjl44

Go Animal said:

Zod said:

Not because of exhaustion, but I feel like if I go to more than a few shows every few start to take it for granted.  The Even Flows, Corduroy's, DTE's... they start wearing on me.

I seem to to enjoy going to shows more if I only go to a few every couple of years kind of thing.

This was the first year I skipped big Seattle shows  in over 25 years, but with two in Vancouver, that satiated my appetite.

Use the resources to buy Foo Fighters Seattle tickets for August.   Really liked their new album and would like to see this tour.

I guess that's me though.  2 or 3 shows every 2 to 3 years and I'm golden

I mean, that worked out pretty well for ya! Some first time plays from DM. Alone?!? Chloe/Crown. And that sweet Bobcaygeon tag. 

And if I don't go, the resources will go towards David Gilmour in November 😎

I know everyone is focusing on the physical aspect but if it's either/or I would 1000% redirect funds to a Gilmour show

RatherStarved

Go Animal said:

RatherStarved said:

I’d say go to the shows and get seats.  I only regret shows I could have gone to and didn’t.  

Do tell! What were they? Because I'm gonna be hella pissed if I skip LA, and I miss Oceans or something from my want list😅

Quebec 2016 and Rome 2018 I could have done if I was more determined. 

I don’t know the setlist for LA obviously but I fully expect Oceans.  It hasn’t been played this tour and they have been doing a different opener every night.  And with it being LA and all, it only makes sense.  

MikeDigs

The travel by itself is draining.  Especially Pacific to Eastern timezone.  Add in that you had a connecting flight, on top of standing for both shows.  That will really take all of your energy and more. 

Due to the extra time and energy required to travel all the way back east, then out west again, I would have stayed out west and traveled from Vegas to LA.  Only if possible.

I would take the much needed rest.  You already have an amazing lineup of shows remaining.  LA 1 & 2 are my only shows.   I wish I could do more.

Go Animal

pjl44 said:

Go Animal said:

Zod said:

Not because of exhaustion, but I feel like if I go to more than a few shows every few start to take it for granted.  The Even Flows, Corduroy's, DTE's... they start wearing on me.

I seem to to enjoy going to shows more if I only go to a few every couple of years kind of thing.

This was the first year I skipped big Seattle shows  in over 25 years, but with two in Vancouver, that satiated my appetite.

Use the resources to buy Foo Fighters Seattle tickets for August.   Really liked their new album and would like to see this tour.

I guess that's me though.  2 or 3 shows every 2 to 3 years and I'm golden

I mean, that worked out pretty well for ya! Some first time plays from DM. Alone?!? Chloe/Crown. And that sweet Bobcaygeon tag. 

And if I don't go, the resources will go towards David Gilmour in November 😎

I know everyone is focusing on the physical aspect but if it's either/or I would 1000% redirect funds to a Gilmour show

Oh, I'm going no matter what. Never seen him, or Floyd.

Just a little less debt if I skip a PJ show or 2😅

pjl44

Go Animal said:

pjl44 said:

Go Animal said:

Zod said:

Not because of exhaustion, but I feel like if I go to more than a few shows every few start to take it for granted.  The Even Flows, Corduroy's, DTE's... they start wearing on me.

I seem to to enjoy going to shows more if I only go to a few every couple of years kind of thing.

This was the first year I skipped big Seattle shows  in over 25 years, but with two in Vancouver, that satiated my appetite.

Use the resources to buy Foo Fighters Seattle tickets for August.   Really liked their new album and would like to see this tour.

I guess that's me though.  2 or 3 shows every 2 to 3 years and I'm golden

I mean, that worked out pretty well for ya! Some first time plays from DM. Alone?!? Chloe/Crown. And that sweet Bobcaygeon tag. 

And if I don't go, the resources will go towards David Gilmour in November 😎

I know everyone is focusing on the physical aspect but if it's either/or I would 1000% redirect funds to a Gilmour show

Oh, I'm going going no matter what. Never seen him, or Floyd.

Just a little less debt if I skip a PJ show or 2😅

Ha...ok fair enough. I'm in the same boat. Hoping to catch a deal but will ultimately pay what I need to pay to see one of those shows.

On the LA shows man I don't know. Trust your gut and see how you feel when you wake up. The back and forth across the country does seem like some serious jet lag though.

Naked John

If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.

Go Animal

MikeDigs said:

The travel by itself is draining.  Especially Pacific to Eastern timezone.  Add in that you had a connecting flight, on top of standing for both shows.  That will really take all of your energy and more. 

Due to the extra time and energy required to travel all the way back east, then out west again, I would have stayed out west and traveled from Vegas to LA.  Only if possible.

I would take the much needed rest.  You already have an amazing lineup of shows remaining.  LA 1 & 2 are my only shows.   I wish I could do more.

It so is. And I've been doing Delta & Jetblue, so these are fairly comfy seats & the trip STILL kicks my ass. 

I would've stayed, but couldn't. But if I end up not going, I hope you have 2 incredibly kick ass shows the next couple of days🤘

BF89905

2-feign-reluctance said:

I vote listen to your body. Sounds like you already have a lot to look forward to. 

Go Animal

Naked John said:

If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.

Only ways I'll regret it:

- they open with Oceans, then never again.
- either night gets a Mamasan Trilogy.
- Comes Then Goes gets played for the first (and probably last) time.
- Miley Cyrus joins the band on stage for Just Breathe
- all of Vitalogy is played, or hell... Dark Matter in order
- Stone gets to do Don't Gimme No Lip AND Mankind
- they revisit Comfortably Numb, or Mother
- they play Alone, Brother, Just a Girl, Hold On, Gremmie, Pilate, All Those Yesterdays, Parting Ways, Sad, Undone, Other Side, Gonna See My Friend, or Of the Earth.

mcgruff10

We aren’t in our 20s anymore.  I say listen to your body.   

bootlegger10

In 2015 I flew to South America to see them in Chile and Argentina and then flew back home to Indiana. About 10 days later I flew back to Brazil to see them in Rio, Bogota and Mexico City.  I've driven 32 hours from Edmonton to Indy back in 2011.  I'm not stranger to your plight of wanting to see as many shows as you can.

My thought:  Listen to your body and mind as they are clearly telling you that you'd probably prefer to have some good rest at home and check some other things off the to do list.  I was a hardcore merch hunter for years, and had a poster for all 80 of my shows at the time.  I sold my most expensive poster and it didn't phase me at all (and kept selling).  Quit merch game basically cold turkey after that except for collecting the stickers and now don't even do much effort to get them unless they are available during the show.  My point is if you skip the shows you probably will find you don't regret it at all and probably will be glad you did.  

I think you should realize that the legendary show is no longer out there, and certainly not in LA.  You don't need to worry about missing the next State College, Boston III, MSG 2010, or Philly 2016.  What you got in Vegas is going to be what you get in LA, except Hail, Hail may be replaced by Grievance, and OUt of my Mind by Undone.  I think you'll be satisfied with the 7 shows you have on the books.  

BF25394

Go Animal said:

Naked John said:

If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.

Only ways I'll regret it:

- they open with Oceans, then never again.
- either night gets a Mamasan Trilogy.
- Comes Then Goes gets played for the first (and probably last) time.
- Miley Cyrus joins the band on stage for Just Breathe
- all of Vitalogy is played, or hell... Dark Matter in order
- Stone gets to do Don't Gimme No Lip AND Mankind
- they revisit Comfortably Numb, or Mother
- they play Alone, Brother, Just a Girl, Hold On, Gremmie, Pilate, All Those Yesterdays, Parting Ways, Sad, Undone, Other Side, Gonna See My Friend, or Of the Earth.

Pretend one of the versions of "Alive" you heard in Vegas was "Footsteps" and it's just like you got Momma-Son.

BF25394

bootlegger10 said:

In 2015 I flew to South America to see them in Chile and Argentina and then flew back home to Indiana. About 10 days later I flew back to Brazil to see them in Rio, Bogota and Mexico City.  I've driven 32 hours from Edmonton to Indy back in 2011.  I'm not stranger to your plight of wanting to see as many shows as you can.

My thought:  Listen to your body and mind as they are clearly telling you that you'd probably prefer to have some good rest at home and check some other things off the to do list.  I was a hardcore merch hunter for years, and had a poster for all 80 of my shows at the time.  I sold my most expensive poster and it didn't phase me at all (and kept selling).  Quit merch game basically cold turkey after that except for collecting the stickers and now don't even do much effort to get them unless they are available during the show.  My point is if you skip the shows you probably will find you don't regret it at all and probably will be glad you did.  

I think you should realize that the legendary show is no longer out there, and certainly not in LA.  You don't need to worry about missing the next State College, Boston III, MSG 2010, or Philly 2016.  What you got in Vegas is going to be what you get in LA, except Hail, Hail may be replaced by Grievance, and OUt of my Mind by Undone.  I think you'll be satisfied with the 7 shows you have on the books.  

Certainly not in L.A.? I've seen some pretty phenomenal shows in L.A., and San Diego, too. Two of the best shows I've seen were in Glendale, Arizona. I've seen them eight times at MSG and I'd put the four nights in L.A. in 2009 over all of them.

SHZA

I've done the redeye after shows a few times and it definitely takes a lot out of you. Since it didn't get you home until 6 pm anyway, staying over was the way to go, but what's done is done. I'd see how you feel in the morning after a good night's sleep. That often makes a world of difference when I'm fatigued. If you're up to it, you could go to the shows and just take it easy. Skip the daytime merch, get seats, and skip the opener. That's a lot less grueling than what you put yourself through in Vegas. Unless you're really not feeling well, in which case it's probably best to rest up,

Go Animal

BF25394 said:

Go Animal said:

Naked John said:

If you do not go you will regret it for the rest of your born days. No excuse if you can go.

Only ways I'll regret it:

- they open with Oceans, then never again.
- either night gets a Mamasan Trilogy.
- Comes Then Goes gets played for the first (and probably last) time.
- Miley Cyrus joins the band on stage for Just Breathe
- all of Vitalogy is played, or hell... Dark Matter in order
- Stone gets to do Don't Gimme No Lip AND Mankind
- they revisit Comfortably Numb, or Mother
- they play Alone, Brother, Just a Girl, Hold On, Gremmie, Pilate, All Those Yesterdays, Parting Ways, Sad, Undone, Other Side, Gonna See My Friend, or Of the Earth.

Pretend one of the versions of "Alive" you heard in Vegas was "Footsteps" and it's just like you got Momma-Son.

When Once queued up, I got wide-eyed 👀 my line buddies knew I was chasing it so they were looking at me like Nicholson in Anger Management 🤣 when Something Special came on I snapped back to reality ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ceska

I don't travel home the night of a show. I get that it saves hotel money, or saves a vacation day at work, but it's a recipe for disaster and I know it will be my least productive day of work ever and I'll feel physically terrible. Get a good night's sleep after the show, submit to leisurely travel day, and go back to work life/refreshed. I also no longer travel the day of a show. I once had a delayed flight and * almost * missed a connection that would have caused me to miss the show entirely. Fortunately I did arrive in time. Travel a day or two before and avoid the stress.