GA List

mcgruff10

LBCeddie said:

It’s a bunch of obsessed euros, we almost kicked the shit out of them in Phila 13. Needless to say, we kept our spots in the front of the line and refused to let some euro write on us. 

I wonder if they were same people at Brooklyn 1 and 2.    I was in ga night one and people left the show early to line up for night 2.   

bootlegger10

Got to Vegas GA line at 5:15pm for night 2.  Was second row in front of Mike.   People are silly.

Bentleyspop

This has been a problem for years with bands like U2 and Springsteen. 
It has been argued/suggested for multiple tours that PJ should go the old  Springstern G.A. route of random lottery.

However, the pit for Springsteen arena shows is so small now there is no need to be on the rail.

pdalowsky

Bentleyspop said:

This has been a problem for years with bands like U2 and Springsteen. 
It has been argued/suggested for multiple tours that PJ should go the old  Springstern G.A. route of random lottery.

However, the pit for Springsteen arena shows is so small now there is no need to be on the rail.

The Bruce system seems to be back to a number on the hand this year 

Gern Blansten

I would be good with seating...no pit.

When I get GA I hang out at the back of the crowd so I'm not worried about rail, etc. although being front row (seating) would be nice. I scored 10th row years ago when the 1st and 10th rows were total lottery and that was great. 

bootleg

Gern Blansten said:

I would be good with seating...no pit.

When I get GA I hang out at the back of the crowd so I'm not worried about rail, etc. although being front row (seating) would be nice. I scored 10th row years ago when the 1st and 10th rows were total lottery and that was great. 

I’d be good with going back to this also.  Remove GA.  Randomize rows 1,2, 10,11.  Would just save so many wasted hours of just sitting on the sidewalk and not having to fight to get your spot back when you have to take a piss.

PJNB

We live in a world of Premium PJ tickets now. 

Imagine if 10C gave up the best section in the house for seats. 

BigRedd

demetrios said:

bootleg said:

Yeah I would like to see them do some type of randomization of numbers like some other artists have done.  These ga list people can be very annoying and and just kind of weird really.  And they don’t even stand in the line the whole time.  Like they pick some arbitrary point and decide ok everyone here by this time gets a number and your free to go about your day and come back and get your same spot.  There is no list.  No one gave you that job.

Wanna know the worst kind as I've seen this many, many times these past few tours? Especially back in 2022. While us old reserved seated folks wait in line for hours outside to purchase Pearl Jam merchandise, many folks that are in the GA line / list, especially the first 40 or so who you see on the rail, come up & line up with a buddy they know who are very, very close in the merch line. They come & go from the GA / merch lines every few minutes before the merch opens. Does Mr. TSURT / Pearl Jam management do anything to stop this? Nope. 

Or what about the GA folks you see at the Wishlist Foundation parties in the afternoon? I've seen many who come & stay for a while who later you see are in the front row at the show. This doesn't make any sense but it's happening. 10club / Pearl Jam management knows it's happening.

This happens all of the time and no they do not do a thing about it. 

Also the same group of people let their friends who have not waited all day in the GA line in with them. But don't worry they are just going in to get merch early and sitting at the back of the pit. 

bootlegger10

bootleg said:

Gern Blansten said:

I would be good with seating...no pit.

When I get GA I hang out at the back of the crowd so I'm not worried about rail, etc. although being front row (seating) would be nice. I scored 10th row years ago when the 1st and 10th rows were total lottery and that was great. 

I’d be good with going back to this also.  Remove GA.  Randomize rows 1,2, 10,11.  Would just save so many wasted hours of just sitting on the sidewalk and not having to fight to get your spot back when you have to take a piss.

I don’t think this is needed.  I know for a fact that I can show up at 5:30pm and get within 4 rows of the stage.  I would rather have that option than hope I can win the lottery once every 5 years and get the 10th row.  

Plus, GA allows more friends to hang together at a show than being separated in seating.

if you want to give up your day to stand two feet closer to the stage, then go for it.  Ed is not thinking about you when he is surfing in Hawaii.  We probably are because we listen to PJ music every day, but Mike is not thinking about that guitar pick he threw to you in Tulsa or that creative t-shirt you wore.  

WindowPaine

it's reasons like this and the absurd cost of tickets that i've had no interest in going to see pj after my last shows in 2018

Gern Blansten

PJNB said:

We live in a world of Premium PJ tickets now. 

Imagine if 10C gave up the best section in the house for seats. 

Those seats would have a price attached. I don't see a revenue difference.

gotthebottle

GA is what you make it... I'm a walk in and wander around person but I prefer a pit to seats on floor. 
I have done U2 and Bruce GA for  many many shows... I've run the list for U2 on 360 tour some shows. And as much as i hated Bruce lottery it is most fair. But I've been on many rails...
You have to realize the performers are all different. Bono LOVES seeing familiar faces and so does Bruce.. who actually installs a few people I know on the rail near the thrust pre-show because he likes them. 
To me is not worth fighting for anymore... I'm same age as Ed and life too short to stand in a line all day. But go for it if you want

Gern Blansten

gotthebottle said:

GA is what you make it... I'm a walk in and wander around person but I prefer a pit to seats on floor. 
I have done U2 and Bruce GA for  many many shows... I've run the list for U2 on 360 tour some shows. And as much as i hated Bruce lottery it is most fair. But I've been on many rails...
You have to realize the performers are all different. Bono LOVES seeing familiar faces and so does Bruce.. who actually installs a few people I know on the rail near the thrust pre-show because he likes them. 
To me is not worth fighting for anymore... I'm same age as Ed and life too short to stand in a line all day. But go for it if you want

I'm with you there....I just wish I didn't have to wait in line for merch. I'm not buying if I have to wait.

gotthebottle

Gern Blansten said:

gotthebottle said:

GA is what you make it... I'm a walk in and wander around person but I prefer a pit to seats on floor. 
I have done U2 and Bruce GA for  many many shows... I've run the list for U2 on 360 tour some shows. And as much as i hated Bruce lottery it is most fair. But I've been on many rails...
You have to realize the performers are all different. Bono LOVES seeing familiar faces and so does Bruce.. who actually installs a few people I know on the rail near the thrust pre-show because he likes them. 
To me is not worth fighting for anymore... I'm same age as Ed and life too short to stand in a line all day. But go for it if you want

I'm with you there....I just wish I didn't have to wait in line for merch. I'm not buying if I have to wait.

Another line I'm skipping... but I have waited indoors pre show for stuff. I don't buy much anymore.. just stickers and if poster is one  l like...$$ tight and the merch is just stuff 

JimmyV

There was a list in Vegas?

PJNB

Gern Blansten said:

PJNB said:

We live in a world of Premium PJ tickets now. 

Imagine if 10C gave up the best section in the house for seats. 

Those seats would have a price attached. I don't see a revenue difference.

You don’t see the difference with a pit full of 800 people paying 10C prices vs reserved seats taking up 400 spots at jacked up prices? 

JR225955

So yeah...

I was at LV N2 and I walked up to the venue around 2 pm to get the lay of the land. Regardless of what the MGM/Ticketmaster email said (no line ups before 4 pm), there were probably already 100 people posted up in various states of presence. Empty chairs, blankets, single representatives of larger groups, water bottles as markers, etc. After surveying the situation and realizing I for sure wouldn't be getting all the way up front, I went and got cleaned up and grabbed a beer and rolled back down around 4 pm.

Hearing and seeing the whole 'list that doesn't exist for the line that isn't allowed' was a bit of a bummer. I got bits and pieces of the whole story and imagine the same thing plays out at each venue each night. Whatever - I'm certainly not as big a fan as anyone who was in front of me Saturday night. That said, there shouldn't be an email that states 'no lists, no line ups before 4 pm' and then a clear disregard for that exact statement. It even seemed as if the first 100 or so super fans were given a bit of extra space and time when passing through security.

The MGM representative that was herding all the cats was funny and gracious through it all, but again - it sure seems like there was a lot of pandering to the scofflaws in the front of the line.

Long story a little longer - I would have been stoked to have been a bit closer, but I had a great spot - centerstage about five or six people back. Got to sing along to some bangers and see one of my favorite bands up close. Not sure I'm really seeing the value in the 10C anymore. I can lurk these feeds and buy resale tickets since they come up pretty regularly now. Getting on the rail is for folks with deeper pockets and a bit more passion than me, so I guess I'll see how it all shakes out when my renewal comes up... I don't think I'll be missed if I walk away. There are plenty more uber-rapid PJ fans who can use these pages to stroke their "I'm a bigger fan than you" egos while trying to derail each concert with request to play my song for me because I'm your biggest fan.

Anyway - thanks for the music PJ.

BF25394

BigRedd said:

demetrios said:

bootleg said:

Yeah I would like to see them do some type of randomization of numbers like some other artists have done.  These ga list people can be very annoying and and just kind of weird really.  And they don’t even stand in the line the whole time.  Like they pick some arbitrary point and decide ok everyone here by this time gets a number and your free to go about your day and come back and get your same spot.  There is no list.  No one gave you that job.

Wanna know the worst kind as I've seen this many, many times these past few tours? Especially back in 2022. While us old reserved seated folks wait in line for hours outside to purchase Pearl Jam merchandise, many folks that are in the GA line / list, especially the first 40 or so who you see on the rail, come up & line up with a buddy they know who are very, very close in the merch line. They come & go from the GA / merch lines every few minutes before the merch opens. Does Mr. TSURT / Pearl Jam management do anything to stop this? Nope. 

Or what about the GA folks you see at the Wishlist Foundation parties in the afternoon? I've seen many who come & stay for a while who later you see are in the front row at the show. This doesn't make any sense but it's happening. 10club / Pearl Jam management knows it's happening.

This happens all of the time and no they do not do a thing about it. 

Also the same group of people let their friends who have not waited all day in the GA line in with them. But don't worry they are just going in to get merch early and sitting at the back of the pit. 

At Vegas Night 1, I didn't get into the arena until after 7 p.m. because I had driven up that day and took my friend with whom I was staying out to dinner. I ended up about four people off the rail a few feet to Eddie's left. At Night 2, I got in line right as doors were about to open at 6 p.m. and there were hundreds of people already in line. I thought, "Well, I guess I'm not going to be anywhere as close as I was the other night." Then, after I walked into the arena, I realized that at least half the people ahead of me had gotten in line for merch instead of going in to claim a spot in GA. I ended up dead center about ten feet from the rail.

BigRedd

JR225955 said:

So yeah...

I was at LV N2 and I walked up to the venue around 2 pm to get the lay of the land. Regardless of what the MGM/Ticketmaster email said (no line ups before 4 pm), there were probably already 100 people posted up in various states of presence. Empty chairs, blankets, single representatives of larger groups, water bottles as markers, etc. After surveying the situation and realizing I for sure wouldn't be getting all the way up front, I went and got cleaned up and grabbed a beer and rolled back down around 4 pm.

Hearing and seeing the whole 'list that doesn't exist for the line that isn't allowed' was a bit of a bummer. I got bits and pieces of the whole story and imagine the same thing plays out at each venue each night. Whatever - I'm certainly not as big a fan as anyone who was in front of me Saturday night. That said, there shouldn't be an email that states 'no lists, no line ups before 4 pm' and then a clear disregard for that exact statement. It even seemed as if the first 100 or so super fans were given a bit of extra space and time when passing through security.

The MGM representative that was herding all the cats was funny and gracious through it all, but again - it sure seems like there was a lot of pandering to the scofflaws in the front of the line.

Long story a little longer - I would have been stoked to have been a bit closer, but I had a great spot - centerstage about five or six people back. Got to sing along to some bangers and see one of my favorite bands up close. Not sure I'm really seeing the value in the 10C anymore. I can lurk these feeds and buy resale tickets since they come up pretty regularly now. Getting on the rail is for folks with deeper pockets and a bit more passion than me, so I guess I'll see how it all shakes out when my renewal comes up... I don't think I'll be missed if I walk away. There are plenty more uber-rapid PJ fans who can use these pages to stroke their "I'm a bigger fan than you" egos while trying to derail each concert with request to play my song for me because I'm your biggest fan.

Anyway - thanks for the music PJ.

It totally takes the fun away from it when the group is "in charge" of everything. 

Lists are not a normal thing for the group btw. They just use them to secure their spots to make sure they don't get screwed when different rules come up like it did in Vegas. It is always about securing their spot. They dont give a shit once the line hits the random fans they do not know as long as they are good. It may seem like they are doing it for everyones best interest. In fact it is just for their security to touch Eddies feet one more time. 

They literally begged security to give them bracelets N1 because they were so scared another group would get ahead of them. It is an addiction and obsession at this point but yes they do put the time in as well. I was their N1 and once I heard the list and scheduled times I had to go to keep my spot for N2 I said fuck it I am not doing that shit. 

gotthebottle

BF25394 said:

BigRedd said:

demetrios said:

bootleg said:

Yeah I would like to see them do some type of randomization of numbers like some other artists have done.  These ga list people can be very annoying and and just kind of weird really.  And they don’t even stand in the line the whole time.  Like they pick some arbitrary point and decide ok everyone here by this time gets a number and your free to go about your day and come back and get your same spot.  There is no list.  No one gave you that job.

Wanna know the worst kind as I've seen this many, many times these past few tours? Especially back in 2022. While us old reserved seated folks wait in line for hours outside to purchase Pearl Jam merchandise, many folks that are in the GA line / list, especially the first 40 or so who you see on the rail, come up & line up with a buddy they know who are very, very close in the merch line. They come & go from the GA / merch lines every few minutes before the merch opens. Does Mr. TSURT / Pearl Jam management do anything to stop this? Nope. 

Or what about the GA folks you see at the Wishlist Foundation parties in the afternoon? I've seen many who come & stay for a while who later you see are in the front row at the show. This doesn't make any sense but it's happening. 10club / Pearl Jam management knows it's happening.

This happens all of the time and no they do not do a thing about it. 

Also the same group of people let their friends who have not waited all day in the GA line in with them. But don't worry they are just going in to get merch early and sitting at the back of the pit. 

At Vegas Night 1, I didn't get into the arena until after 7 p.m. because I had driven up that day and took my friend with whom I was staying out to dinner. I ended up about four people off the rail a few feet to Eddie's left. At Night 2, I got in line right as doors were about to open at 6 p.m. and there were hundreds of people already in line. I thought, "Well, I guess I'm not going to be anywhere as close as I was the other night." Then, after I walked into the arena, I realized that at least half the people ahead of me had gotten in line for merch instead of going in to claim a spot in GA. I ended up dead center about ten feet from the rail.

That's the way....