LV was kind of weird and inconsistent. I showed up briefly morning of Saturday hoping for a numbered band like they did for Thursday but it seemed like they weren't doing it so I went about my merry way as a back/side rail rider.
I would like to see band management take this on (since they dumped the rest of ticketing off to TM). Just assign some numbers during the GA draw so you know your spot in line. If you are lucky to land 1-50 or whatever show up early, if not do your thing. We got people with AARP cards and Social Security benefits camping for days and pretty soon tragedy will hit again if it doesn't end. I'm sure as a fanbase no one wants to see a 10th person go down at a PJ concert, but this GA system is a ticket for disaster as we get older.
I will say this...it seems odd that GA is held back for "VIP" badge people. I get it for band immediate family (wives/kids) but Mike had a crowd of about 10 filter in with VIP Mike badges who just looked like his buddies based on age...which is fine and all but really shouldn't they just get put up in a suite? Does that reduce 10c seats available for GA? Or do they just give them extra GA passes since PJ doesn't fill up the pit anyways?
Despite all that, all the Mike's VIP people and the Vedders (obviously if they wanted my spot I would gladly concede lol) that were near me for several tracks were very polite, respectful of us commoners, and were equally rocking out, so not anyway a slight to them just kind of curious if it impacts GA sales.
The band has to purchase tickets for their guests from the promoter above and beyond what is negotiated into the contract. An easy work around is to escort their guests into GA.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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Got to Vegas GA line at 5:15pm for night 2. Was second row in front of Mike. People are silly.
Totally. I rolled in at the start of Deep Sea Diver both nights and was maybe 7-8 people back. I've been rail before. No difference in the amount of fun I had, at least whatever difference there is it certainly ain't worth all that drama and waiting. Let the weirdos play their weirdo childish games.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
Gotta love the how people react when things don’t go how they want it to. From what I saw and yes I was there for N2 security changed what was happening more then once. Typically ga is easy you show up set up and wait this wasn’t allowed so a group not one and not two set up a way to organize to help everyone as best as possible. It’s not about knowing the security or that shit. It’s looking out for everyone as fairly as possible in this situations when you can’t camp out. That right there would have squashed this thread. And this “List” was simple show up sign up come back check in as needed. Then line up show day guess that’s to hard for some. Was it perfect nope but it worked to keep things in a decent order for mostly everyone who came and signed up. I’d love to hear some people with actual suggestions for when things like this happen vs this sort of negativity towards others who were trying to make the best of a fucked up situation.
Things worked out exactly how I wanted it to, we saw my favourite band and we met some amazing people. The only thing the list people were doing by “helping” was making sure they had the spot they wanted.
Based on the zippo/wine bottles and some of the harmonicas Ed personally hands out to the familiar faces, I'm sure the band is fine with how things are working out in GA.
"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
Lists, signs, kids. Acknowledgment from the band. Tambourines. All seems very weird to me. Especially of those in their 40s/50s. I don’t get it.
There was a guy in the Race & Sports Book at MGM Grand the other day wearing an Abe Froman T-shirt. I asked him if he was you. It turns out the Sausage King of Chicago has a lot of fans.
Lists, signs, kids. Acknowledgment from the band. Tambourines. All seems very weird to me. Especially of those in their 40s/50s. I don’t get it.
There was a guy in the Race & Sports Book at MGM Grand the other day wearing an Abe Froman T-shirt. I asked him if he was you. It turns out the Sausage King of Chicago has a lot of fans.
Ha! There is only one Sausage King of Chicago… it’s funny I’ve had that name on here forever.
Got to Vegas GA line at 5:15pm for night 2. Was second row in front of Mike. People are silly.
Again, something someone on the list would say.
Same here for Vegas 2, walked in 15 minutes after GA line was let in and second row near the speakers on Mike's side (granted, a little limited visibility but nothing bad). Got 3 people back on Stone's side walking in 30 minutes after doors for Chicago 1 last year. Most people after the list group take what they can in the center, but moving off to the sides can still get you close if touching the rail is that important.
That being said, once I saw some familiar faces up front at Vegas 1 I decided not to bother with GA lines for night 2 - most of the front of the line was already locked before Saturday. They can do what they do, but it's a bit dissuading to other fans trying for good GA spots when the reason for adding GA was to get fresh faces up front vs the same seated fans.
I did GA 1 time where I went for rail. It was in MSG. It seemed pretty true with how people lined up. People were allowed to go do some things within reason. I ran to the hotel and showered. Go grab food quick, bathroom, etc. I spent 98% of the time in line, slept on pavement, etc.
Overall, I thought it was fairly on the up and up. A few new people seemed to appear in the line in the last few hours.... and a list did materialize.
Personally, I liked the seated layout better. I do not like GA. I had it for a Wrigley show again and there was a kind of nasty feel to it. A few fights, a few gropey hands on females. I also liked the hierarchy of the the 10c seniority (no I'm not a # who was always in the front or anything).
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"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
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it’s funny I’ve had that name on here forever.
That being said, once I saw some familiar faces up front at Vegas 1 I decided not to bother with GA lines for night 2 - most of the front of the line was already locked before Saturday. They can do what they do, but it's a bit dissuading to other fans trying for good GA spots when the reason for adding GA was to get fresh faces up front vs the same seated fans.
Overall, I thought it was fairly on the up and up. A few new people seemed to appear in the line in the last few hours.... and a list did materialize.
Personally, I liked the seated layout better. I do not like GA. I had it for a Wrigley show again and there was a kind of nasty feel to it. A few fights, a few gropey hands on females. I also liked the hierarchy of the the 10c seniority (no I'm not a # who was always in the front or anything).
Never mind. Figured it out on my own haha