The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited January 13
    Go Animal said:
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    My line of thinking just based off observation:
    • Seminole Hard Rock - they offered up so much money, it would've been equivalent to Miami x 2, Tampa, and Jacksonville with cash to spare. They know we're loyal, so all the FL peeps will make the trip to Hollywood.
    • Atlanta - they know it's been a long time since they've been there, so 2 shows seemed like a no-brainer.
    • NOLA - adding only to say festivals mean good money. And NOLA is one of the best.
    • Nashville - this was a surprise to me too, but that 2022 show was a tough ticket & the boys had a great time. So, I get it.
    • Raleigh - they have to still feel bad about 2016, so this is their "I'm Sorry" and since they're getting used to the whole show/off/show schedule, they figured they might as well play two.
    • Pittsburgh - PA is a hot bed. Philly had no problem being a huge success, so they probably figured that 2 in Pitt (also home to one of their all-time posters) was a safe bet.
    Beyond that, TO and/or Montreal were penciled it, but they couldn't make it happen. The road trip is indeed spotty, but I gave up trying to game that out a while ago lol.
    I think its probably even much simpler than that

    The $$$ offered for Hollywood and JazzFest got them out of bed.  Atlanta, Raleigh and Pittsburgh were 3 "due" cities that were close enough geographically.  Nashville probably had arena availability and was also in the same geographic area.  Put it all together, and the tour is now financially worth it with minimal travel and time commitment.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    Manu117 said:
    Manu117 said:
    I heard from an insider that there were talks for 2 shows in Montreal but they fell through. 
    Completely or delayed until later in the year ?
    sounded like it just didn't work out. Don't know why.  So no shows (in Montreal at least)
    The problem was Toronto being on the itinerary as well but due to Toronto being a 2 teams potentially in the playoffs venue the schedule couldn’t be assured.

    No Toronto meant no Montreal either.
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  • Manu117
    Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    the Canadian dollar tanking probably doesn't help either
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 466
    Go Animal said:
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    My line of thinking just based off observation:
    • Seminole Hard Rock - they offered up so much money, it would've been equivalent to Miami x 2, Tampa, and Jacksonville with cash to spare. They know we're loyal, so all the FL peeps will make the trip to Hollywood.
    • Atlanta - they know it's been a long time since they've been there, so 2 shows seemed like a no-brainer.
    • NOLA - adding only to say festivals mean good money. And NOLA is one of the best.
    • Nashville - this was a surprise to me too, but that 2022 show was a tough ticket & the boys had a great time. So, I get it.
    • Raleigh - they have to still feel bad about 2016, so this is their "I'm Sorry" and since they're getting used to the whole show/off/show schedule, they figured they might as well play two.
    • Pittsburgh - PA is a hot bed. Philly had no problem being a huge success, so they probably figured that 2 in Pitt (also home to one of their all-time posters) was a safe bet.
    Beyond that, TO and/or Montreal were penciled it, but they couldn't make it happen. The road trip is indeed spotty, but I gave up trying to game that out a while ago lol.
    I think its probably even much simpler than that

    The $$$ offered for Hollywood and JazzFest got them out of bed.  Atlanta, Raleigh and Pittsburgh were 3 "due" cities that were close enough geographically.  Nashville probably had arena availability and was also in the same geographic area.  Put it all together, and the tour is now financially worth it with minimal travel and time commitment.
    I'm sure this is just testing markets for the future to see what's what. The spring 2024 leg had Portland and Sacramento as one stops. They probably learned that Vancouver might not have the draw especially since Seattle is right there. I doubt Raleigh gets a two show stand in the future. The might try Charlotte if Atlanta isn't on a future tour. Outside of festivals, Ohana, Wrigley, Fenway and Missoula I would not be surprised if they go completely indoors which takes out a lot of venues (the amphitheater circuit). Also I doubt they will ever go on a barn burner tour ever again so the locations will be high value places in the future. They are just pinning down their future map.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    I think so. With the way this leg shook out I'll bet they would have pulled a fair amount from the northeast US. Montreal is pretty accessible and a phenomenal city to spend a few days in.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Montreal with no NY or NE on the schedule would sell out two nights, IMO.
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  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,406
    pjl44 said:
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    I think so. With the way this leg shook out I'll bet they would have pulled a fair amount from the northeast US. Montreal is pretty accessible and a phenomenal city to spend a few days in.
    Yes, I'd kill for a Montréal show. PJ and macarons! 
    #Grievance2025 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    Shaindli1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    I think so. With the way this leg shook out I'll bet they would have pulled a fair amount from the northeast US. Montreal is pretty accessible and a phenomenal city to spend a few days in.
    Yes, I'd kill for a Montréal show. PJ and macarons! 
    I would single handedly revive their economy on poutine, smoked meat, and Dieu du Ciel spending 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    pjl44 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    I think so. With the way this leg shook out I'll bet they would have pulled a fair amount from the northeast US. Montreal is pretty accessible and a phenomenal city to spend a few days in.
    Yes, I'd kill for a Montréal show. PJ and macarons! 
    I would single handedly revive their economy on poutine, smoked meat, and Dieu du Ciel spending 
    Don’t forget the QC maple syrup! 
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  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,406
    pjl44 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Maybe a little ignorant here but with the new touring format I’d be a little concerned pushing the envelope of what places justify two night stands. Would Montreal really sell out two? Especially if Toronto was going to get two nights? Raleigh got two shows also…but Indy didn’t? Return to Nashville already? Just strange. 
    I think so. With the way this leg shook out I'll bet they would have pulled a fair amount from the northeast US. Montreal is pretty accessible and a phenomenal city to spend a few days in.
    Yes, I'd kill for a Montréal show. PJ and macarons! 
    I would single handedly revive their economy on poutine, smoked meat, and Dieu du Ciel spending 
    That's literally me last year in Montréal but in French patisseries! I mean, I bought some even to take with me. Then a month later I passed through again en route to BC and bought more!
    #Grievance2025 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,780
    Bottle rock announced today.  Green Day among others.  No PJ, which is not a surprise obviously.
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  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    Never thought I would see Green Day and Justin Timberlake at the same festival, my preteen brain 🤯
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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 466
    ally12 said:
    Never thought I would see Green Day and Justin Timberlake at the same festival, my preteen brain 🤯
    4 Non Blondes was the real shocker.
  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,406
    KJ228171 said:
    ally12 said:
    Never thought I would see Green Day and Justin Timberlake at the same festival, my preteen brain 🤯
    4 Non Blondes was the real shocker.
    They still exist and have more than one song?
    #Grievance2025 
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 466
    Shaindli1 said:
    KJ228171 said:
    ally12 said:
    Never thought I would see Green Day and Justin Timberlake at the same festival, my preteen brain 🤯
    4 Non Blondes was the real shocker.
    They still exist and have more than one song?
    They didn’t until now. They broke up after the one album. 
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,016
    edited January 13
    I would go to Montreal as well, most of us would. But not sure that answers would it sell out 2 nights with Toronto on the itinerary, and by sell out I mean will there be hundreds of F2F tickets sitting on TM with people eating uppers. PJ won’t care about that, they’ll get paid, but the promoter must feel confident. PJ might have gotten paid a little extra for a quick return to Nashville. 

    I think places like Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and even Milwaukee would have better draws for 2 nights than Raleigh and Montreal. Maybe I’m mis-judging. 

    Would like to see this in September: Denver x2 - Kansas City - East Troy x2 - Grand Rapids - Toronto x2 - Montreal - TD Garden x2 - Hartford - Cleveland x2
    or a Canadian leg with a few Midwest dates thrown in
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  • Manu117
    Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    Montreal would have been nice since they were skipped on the last tour (QC-Ott-TO). 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    I would go to Montreal as well, most of us would. But not sure that answers would it sell out 2 nights with Toronto on the itinerary, and by sell out I mean will there be hundreds of F2F tickets sitting on TM with people eating uppers. PJ won’t care about that, they’ll get paid, but the promoter must feel confident. PJ might have gotten paid a little extra for a quick return to Nashville. 

    I think places like Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and even Milwaukee would have better draws for 2 nights than Raleigh and Montreal. Maybe I’m mis-judging. 

    Would like to see this in September: Denver x2 - Kansas City - East Troy x2 - Grand Rapids - Toronto x2 - Montreal - TD Garden x2 - Hartford - Cleveland x2
    or a Canadian leg with a few Midwest dates thrown in
    Does  Cleveland include a class field trip to ROF? 
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  • ally12 said:
    I would go to Montreal as well, most of us would. But not sure that answers would it sell out 2 nights with Toronto on the itinerary, and by sell out I mean will there be hundreds of F2F tickets sitting on TM with people eating uppers. PJ won’t care about that, they’ll get paid, but the promoter must feel confident. PJ might have gotten paid a little extra for a quick return to Nashville. 

    I think places like Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and even Milwaukee would have better draws for 2 nights than Raleigh and Montreal. Maybe I’m mis-judging. 

    Would like to see this in September: Denver x2 - Kansas City - East Troy x2 - Grand Rapids - Toronto x2 - Montreal - TD Garden x2 - Hartford - Cleveland x2
    or a Canadian leg with a few Midwest dates thrown in
    Does  Cleveland include a class field trip to ROF? 
    Most overrated place I’ve ever been, right up there with the Alamo
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  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 422
    ally12 said:
    I would go to Montreal as well, most of us would. But not sure that answers would it sell out 2 nights with Toronto on the itinerary, and by sell out I mean will there be hundreds of F2F tickets sitting on TM with people eating uppers. PJ won’t care about that, they’ll get paid, but the promoter must feel confident. PJ might have gotten paid a little extra for a quick return to Nashville. 

    I think places like Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and even Milwaukee would have better draws for 2 nights than Raleigh and Montreal. Maybe I’m mis-judging. 

    Would like to see this in September: Denver x2 - Kansas City - East Troy x2 - Grand Rapids - Toronto x2 - Montreal - TD Garden x2 - Hartford - Cleveland x2
    or a Canadian leg with a few Midwest dates thrown in
    Does  Cleveland include a class field trip to ROF? 
    Most overrated place I’ve ever been, right up there with the Alamo
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