Stubhub stopped paying out Sellers before the event several years ago, I think it was mainly due to the 2020 Masters being cancelled due to COVID. Sellers had been paid out, event cancelled, and then Stubhub couldn't claw back $$ from lots of Sellers who ghosted.
TM doesn't have that same risk with their own resell, but I bet their move to this is also to match their competition, in addition to the additional $ float they get mentioned above.
Definitely didn't get paid for my extra Baltimore last year until after the show. I thought that was always the policy?
Used to be a week at the most. That was only for PJ F2F tho.
All other concerts they waited until after the event. Honestly it probably was PJs influence to have payment be instant. And just like everything else with the ticketing process over the past few years, they gave way for Ticketmaster to take more and more control.
Thankfully these shows aren’t too far into the future so the pain of waiting for payment, while real, isn’t that long lasting.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Stubhub stopped paying out Sellers before the event several years ago, I think it was mainly due to the 2020 Masters being cancelled due to COVID. Sellers had been paid out, event cancelled, and then Stubhub couldn't claw back $$ from lots of Sellers who ghosted.
TM doesn't have that same risk with their own resell, but I bet their move to this is also to match their competition, in addition to the additional $ float they get mentioned above.
SH and TM both started paying after the event when covid hit. But TM went back to paying after the sale towards the end of 2022. Now they've reversed course once again.
Stubhub stopped paying out Sellers before the event several years ago, I think it was mainly due to the 2020 Masters being cancelled due to COVID. Sellers had been paid out, event cancelled, and then Stubhub couldn't claw back $$ from lots of Sellers who ghosted.
TM doesn't have that same risk with their own resell, but I bet their move to this is also to match their competition, in addition to the additional $ float they get mentioned above.
SH and TM both started paying after the event when covid hit. But TM went back to paying after the sale towards the end of 2022. Now they've reversed course once again.
I sold 3 tix for this spring tour via F2F and have been paid for 2 of them so far .. the 3rd payment is lingering somewhere...
Portland, OR (November 29, 2013) | Seattle, WA (December 06, 2013) | Leeds, UK (July 08, 2014) | St Paul, MN (October 19, 2014) | Denver, CO (October 22, 2014) | Mexico City, MX (November 28, 2015) | Miami (April 09, 2016) | Boston 1 (August 05, 2016) | Prague (July 01, 2018) | Krakow (July 03, 2018) | Berlin (July 05, 2018) | Barcelona (July 10, 2018) | Seattle Night 2 (August 10, 2018) | Missoula, MT (August 13, 2018) | Ohana Festival (September 26, 2021) | Los Angeles (May 06, 2022) | Frankfurt (June 28, 2022) | Copenhagen (July 05, 2022) | London Hyde Park (July 08, 2022) | London Hyde Park (July 09, 2022) | Budapest (July 12, 2022) | New York (September 11, 2022) | St Paul (September 02, 2023) | Chicago (September 05, 2023) | Ft. Worth (September 15, 2023) | Austin (September 19, 2023) | Portland, OR (May 10, 2024) | Las Vegas, NV (May 16, 2024) | Las Vegas, NV (May 18, 2024) | Seattle, WA (May 28, 2024) | Seattle, WA (May 30, 2024) | Manchester (June 25, 2024) | Missoula (August 22, 2024) | Indianapolis (August 26, 2024) | Chicago (August 31, 2024) | Philadelphia (September 09, 2024) | Baltimore (September 12, 2024) | Ohana Festival (September 29, 2024) | Sydney (November 21, 2024) | Sydney (November 23, 2024) [Total: 40]
Stubhub stopped paying out Sellers before the event several years ago, I think it was mainly due to the 2020 Masters being cancelled due to COVID. Sellers had been paid out, event cancelled, and then Stubhub couldn't claw back $$ from lots of Sellers who ghosted.
TM doesn't have that same risk with their own resell, but I bet their move to this is also to match their competition, in addition to the additional $ float they get mentioned above.
SH and TM both started paying after the event when covid hit. But TM went back to paying after the sale towards the end of 2022. Now they've reversed course once again.
I sold 3 tix for this spring tour via F2F and have been paid for 2 of them so far .. the 3rd payment is lingering somewhere...
was the third sold after jan 8?
1996 Charlotte 1998 Raleigh 2000 Virginia Beach 2003 Raleigh 2016 RaleighThanks HB2 2016 Columbia 2020 BaltimoreThanks COVID 2022 BaltimoreThe only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :( 2022 Denver 2024 Baltimore 2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
Well shit. Sounds like their way to prevent us from upgrading/reselling our way up front unless we have the extra capital to let sit for months. Score 1 more for the bots/TM.
I agree it could have this effect, but I don’t think that’s why they’re doing it. It is probably a cash grab to get the interest on both the original purchase and the fan to fan purchase. The average fan already cannot upgrade due to bots and TM cancelling accounts of people who refresh recurrently.
Yeah it’s being done across the board and not targeted to a specific artist. Theoretically it might slow down causal scalping from people looking to make a quick buck or from smaller outfits that don’t have the capital. It won’t do much against institutional scalping. But it’s mainly for the interest float.
1996 Charlotte 1998 Raleigh 2000 Virginia Beach 2003 Raleigh 2016 RaleighThanks HB2 2016 Columbia 2020 BaltimoreThanks COVID 2022 BaltimoreThe only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :( 2022 Denver 2024 Baltimore 2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
As my friend just texted: PJ = good 90s Backstreet boys = bad 90s.
They're just different. I love Pearl Jam as much as anyone, but there's no denying that "Larger than Life" and "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" are great pop songs.
As my friend just texted: PJ = good 90s Backstreet boys = bad 90s.
They're just different. I love Pearl Jam as much as anyone, but there's no denying that "Larger than Life" and "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" are great pop songs.
Some people just need to make art into sports and I'll never understand why. Like what you like but the whole "the music YOU like sucks" thing is...well I don't know what it is but it's not for me.
One of the coolest things about growing up in the 90s was how diverse the popular music was...you'd have a sequence on MTV where it was like Alice In Chains -> PM Dawn -> Kris Kross -> Garth Brooks -> Color Me Badd. It was fucking WILD. And while the boy band pop thing never resonated with me, the Backstreet Boys brought joy to millions of fans over the years and there's something beautiful about people connecting to music - even if it's not the same music that elicits that reaction from me.
1996 Charlotte 1998 Raleigh 2000 Virginia Beach 2003 Raleigh 2016 RaleighThanks HB2 2016 Columbia 2020 BaltimoreThanks COVID 2022 BaltimoreThe only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :( 2022 Denver 2024 Baltimore 2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
As my friend just texted: PJ = good 90s Backstreet boys = bad 90s.
They're just different. I love Pearl Jam as much as anyone, but there's no denying that "Larger than Life" and "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" are great pop songs.
Some people just need to make art into sports and I'll never understand why. Like what you like but the whole "the music YOU like sucks" thing is...well I don't know what it is but it's not for me.
One of the coolest things about growing up in the 90s was how diverse the popular music was...you'd have a sequence on MTV where it was like Alice In Chains -> PM Dawn -> Kris Kross -> Garth Brooks -> Color Me Badd. It was fucking WILD. And while the boy band pop thing never resonated with me, the Backstreet Boys brought joy to millions of fans over the years and there's something beautiful about people connecting to music - even if it's not the same music that elicits that reaction from me.
Growing up in the 90s, I definitely had that gatekeeper of quality music aditude, but at this point I've realized to each their own. Who am I to crap on something that makes someone else happy. I mean with everything that is going on in the world, if you have something that makes you happy then that is all good with me.
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TM doesn't have that same risk with their own resell, but I bet their move to this is also to match their competition, in addition to the additional $ float they get mentioned above.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I sold 3 tix for this spring tour via F2F and have been paid for 2 of them so far .. the 3rd payment is lingering somewhere...
1998 Raleigh
2000 Virginia Beach
2003 Raleigh
2016 Raleigh Thanks HB2
2016 Columbia
2020 Baltimore Thanks COVID
2022 Baltimore The only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :(
2022 Denver
2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
1998 Raleigh
2000 Virginia Beach
2003 Raleigh
2016 Raleigh Thanks HB2
2016 Columbia
2020 Baltimore Thanks COVID
2022 Baltimore The only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :(
2022 Denver
2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
Glass houses, y'all
Backstreet boys = bad 90s.
One of the coolest things about growing up in the 90s was how diverse the popular music was...you'd have a sequence on MTV where it was like Alice In Chains -> PM Dawn -> Kris Kross -> Garth Brooks -> Color Me Badd. It was fucking WILD. And while the boy band pop thing never resonated with me, the Backstreet Boys brought joy to millions of fans over the years and there's something beautiful about people connecting to music - even if it's not the same music that elicits that reaction from me.
1998 Raleigh
2000 Virginia Beach
2003 Raleigh
2016 Raleigh Thanks HB2
2016 Columbia
2020 Baltimore Thanks COVID
2022 Baltimore The only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :(
2022 Denver
2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
However, the nostalgic memories of BSB are pretty awesome too