The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

High Fidelity 2000

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

SVRDhand13

High Fidelity 2000 said:

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

This would be the one time I hope PJ just plays the same set every night.  Make it an experience to go to Vegas and see one show and call it a day.  

High Fidelity 2000

SVRDhand13 said:

High Fidelity 2000 said:

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

This would be the one time I hope PJ just plays the same set every night.  Make it an experience to go to Vegas and see one show and call it a day.  

You have a good point. It would be kinda crappy to know you missed these songs a certain night or whatever and that people would attempt to go to all however many shows over 3-4 weeks or whatever. There were still people who did that with U2 which blows my mind--tried to go to every show or two nights in a row getting out then getting back in the GA line as they walked out, $500 ticket a night, Vegas hotel prices on weekends, I guess they have a trust fund, I don't know. 

HughFreakingDillon

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I gather from hearing demos of the past, a lot of songs stop at Ed. So, many of the demos are likely to only be instrumentals. 

Gravey1975

HughFreakingDillon said:

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I gather from hearing demos of the past, a lot of songs stop at Ed. So, many of the demos are likely to only be instrumentals. 

There's almost certainly enough completed vocals/music tracks recorded for a single Lost Dogs 2 album. A double I'm not so sure. But yeah there's a mass of instrumental only songs recorded by all accounts. I think when the band talk about there being "25 songs recorded" for albums these days I think a good chunk of those don't have vocals recorded.

BF25394

High Fidelity 2000 said:

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

In fairness, some folks may sit down at Sphere because they're experiencing vertigo from the steep pitch of the seats. (And no, I don't mean "uno, dos, tres, catorce" "Vertigo," although they may have been experiencing that, too.)

High Fidelity 2000

BF25394 said:

High Fidelity 2000 said:

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

In fairness, some folks may sit down at Sphere because they're experiencing vertigo from the steep pitch of the seats. (And no, I don't mean "uno, dos, tres, catorce" "Vertigo," although they may have been experiencing that, too.)

Ha ha ha, yes! This was not that. I think this was more of "we paid so much for this ticket, I'm going to sit down." I gave up after two songs but mostly because there was a 12 year old kid behind me. I didn't want him to think all adults at concerts are jerks. My wife stood up to dance most of the show though. She was not having it. lol
This was like 90-95% of the crowd that wasn't on the 100 floor level. I was in 303 and the entire section was sitting down until MOST not all stood up for Streets Have No Name. It was honestly lame as fuck. 
Pretty sure the hippies stood up for The Dead. Then again they want that Vertigo feeling.  

KJ228171

High Fidelity 2000 said:

SVRDhand13 said:

High Fidelity 2000 said:

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

This would be the one time I hope PJ just plays the same set every night.  Make it an experience to go to Vegas and see one show and call it a day.  

You have a good point. It would be kinda crappy to know you missed these songs a certain night or whatever and that people would attempt to go to all however many shows over 3-4 weeks or whatever. There were still people who did that with U2 which blows my mind--tried to go to every show or two nights in a row getting out then getting back in the GA line as they walked out, $500 ticket a night, Vegas hotel prices on weekends, I guess they have a trust fund, I don't know. 

To be far to those people sometimes you get something unexpected like Bono jumping into the crowd or Lady Gaga doing a mini-set or them playing 40. Still one should appreciate their experience rather than let FOMO take over. Those people lining up were wasting their time. I flew in day of, got a wristband at 12:30pm and was one person back dead center. Easy to get rail at either Edge's or Adam's  side. Also GA tickets were half that during the fan club sale. It would be great to PJ does eventually play there they do priority and limit tickets in the first run.

High Fidelity 2000

KJ228171 said:

High Fidelity 2000 said:

SVRDhand13 said:

High Fidelity 2000 said:

I went to one of the first U2 shows at Sphere and the concert was great, the audience sucked. Most people in the seats sit down. It was like a broadway show not like a rock concert. At first I thought there was no way Pearl Jam would ever play there, because they haven't been a huge "screen" visuals/production band... but Eddie went to 3 (I think?) U2 shows, and 2 Eras shows, and clearly loved it. After the U2 run is when Pearl Jam did their own super-visual Sphere-lite screen type stuff. As well as a more structured/predictable set list as of last year. So I've been predicting they'll play there in 2026. They could do it. And it could be cool without being overly cheesy or too computer animated cartoony, I think... just based on the subtle tasteful Dark Matter visuals. Think that, times 100.
And hopefully Pearl Jam fans wouldn't sit down until the last 4 songs of the encore. 

This would be the one time I hope PJ just plays the same set every night.  Make it an experience to go to Vegas and see one show and call it a day.  

You have a good point. It would be kinda crappy to know you missed these songs a certain night or whatever and that people would attempt to go to all however many shows over 3-4 weeks or whatever. There were still people who did that with U2 which blows my mind--tried to go to every show or two nights in a row getting out then getting back in the GA line as they walked out, $500 ticket a night, Vegas hotel prices on weekends, I guess they have a trust fund, I don't know. 

To be far to those people somethings you get something unexpected like Bono jumping into the crowd or Lady Gaga doing a mini-set or them playing 40. Still one should appreciate their experience rather than let FOMO take over. Those people lining up were wasting their time. I flew in day of, got a wristband at 12:30pm and was one person back dead center. Easy to get rail at either Edge's or Adam's  side. Also GA tickets were half that during the fan club sale. It would be great to PJ does eventually play there they do priority and limit tickets in the first run.

That's true. They made some very slight changes some nights during the middle acoustic section. The night we saw they played Pride after the terror attack in Israel, think it was the only time they played it, but they also cut out 1-2 songs I would have really liked to have heard (the set list was shorter than just about every other night). The floor area is so small, you're right about that! I was in a U2 facebook group and seeing people line up and do check ins every few hours for their coveted front row spot in front of Bono was pretty ridiculous, night after night, same people a lot of times. 
That's right, GA tickets weren't as much. Ours were $265 towards the front of the 3rd level and it was the priciest show I've ever been to, but ended up being a bargain compared to the ticketmaster onsale, same section had seats for $700 and $900. We all know the drill on that now but in early 2023 it was semi confusing. lol 
It was a once in a lifetime thing for me, especially because I don't usually go to $300-400-500-600 a pop concerts, but I'd go back for Pearl Jam. 

pdalowsky

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I just sense that when Lost Dogs was released it was a fairly easy thing to throw together - we've got all these tracks that were left on the cutting room floor, or we've got the jeremy b sides etc....lets bang them on a compilation. 

Given how everything has changed in how music is released there is no longer that ready to go, easy acess material to lump together into a release with little effort. It might even involve the band having to record or re record parts now, or add parts to finish music off so in that sense I dont see Lost Dogs 2 ever coming to fruition 

pdalowsky

pdalowsky said:

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I just sense that when Lost Dogs was released it was a fairly easy thing to throw together - we've got all these tracks that were left on the cutting room floor, or we've got the jeremy b sides etc....lets bang them on a compilation. 

Given how everything has changed in how music is released there is no longer that ready to go, easy acess material to lump together into a release with little effort. It might even involve the band having to record or re record parts now, or add parts to finish music off so in that sense I dont see Lost Dogs 2 ever coming to fruition 

I mean when you have tracks like Yellow Ledbetter just hanging around its one of the easiest things to ever decide to do, and I still have no idea why SOLAT didnt get included on that

drfox

pdalowsky said:

pdalowsky said:

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I just sense that when Lost Dogs was released it was a fairly easy thing to throw together - we've got all these tracks that were left on the cutting room floor, or we've got the jeremy b sides etc....lets bang them on a compilation. 

Given how everything has changed in how music is released there is no longer that ready to go, easy acess material to lump together into a release with little effort. It might even involve the band having to record or re record parts now, or add parts to finish music off so in that sense I dont see Lost Dogs 2 ever coming to fruition 

I mean when you have tracks like Yellow Ledbetter just hanging around its one of the easiest things to ever decide to do, and I still have no idea why SOLAT didnt get included on that

They have quite a few popular songs that weren’t on Lost Dogs1…

Breath
SOLAT
Leatherman
Man of the Hour
Long Road
I Got ID
Etc

plus songs since then
Of the Earth
Get It Back
Can’t Deny Me 
Cold Confession
Let It Ride
Ole
etc

plus more. I would have though they could fill a couple of discs/LPs

kmcmanus

pdalowsky said:

pdalowsky said:

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I just sense that when Lost Dogs was released it was a fairly easy thing to throw together - we've got all these tracks that were left on the cutting room floor, or we've got the jeremy b sides etc....lets bang them on a compilation. 

Given how everything has changed in how music is released there is no longer that ready to go, easy acess material to lump together into a release with little effort. It might even involve the band having to record or re record parts now, or add parts to finish music off so in that sense I dont see Lost Dogs 2 ever coming to fruition 

I mean when you have tracks like Yellow Ledbetter just hanging around its one of the easiest things to ever decide to do, and I still have no idea why SOLAT didnt get included on that

Because SOLAT was earmarked for the greatest hits the following year, along with Breath, I Got Id & Man of the Hour

Gravey1975

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

pdalowsky said:

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I just sense that when Lost Dogs was released it was a fairly easy thing to throw together - we've got all these tracks that were left on the cutting room floor, or we've got the jeremy b sides etc....lets bang them on a compilation. 

Given how everything has changed in how music is released there is no longer that ready to go, easy acess material to lump together into a release with little effort. It might even involve the band having to record or re record parts now, or add parts to finish music off so in that sense I dont see Lost Dogs 2 ever coming to fruition 

I mean when you have tracks like Yellow Ledbetter just hanging around its one of the easiest things to ever decide to do, and I still have no idea why SOLAT didnt get included on that

They have quite a few popular songs that weren’t on Lost Dogs1…

Breath
SOLAT
Leatherman
Man of the Hour
Long Road
I Got ID
Etc

plus songs since then
Of the Earth
Get It Back
Can’t Deny Me 
Cold Confession
Let It Ride
Ole
etc

plus more. I would have though they could fill a couple of discs/LPs

I'd say any second compilation of unreleased material is unlikely to feature any pre-ST material. Personally I'd love it to have leatherman, long road, etc but I think they'll ring fence it to material recorded since Lost Dogs.

bb4packers

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

dmbolp

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

Merkin Baller

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

The Egg in Albany would apply... what say you @PJ44? 

pdalowsky

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

pdalowsky said:

given2flym said:

pdalowsky said:

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

I think the issue with this these days is that the tracks that didn't make a release were probably never actually finished as polished tracks like they were in the 90's when created for B sides etc, so most will remain demo's or recording studio cuts that were discarded when it was decided they wouldn't make the record. So in terms of releasable music that can be thrown together to create the b sides release version 2 there probably isnt a great deal of material in the finished format to throw out there. 

I think a bit of mixing and mastering by a guy like Josh Evans (or B’OB) could turn a lot of that cache of “unpolished” songs into releasable tracks for a “Lost Dogs 2” compilation. 

I just sense that when Lost Dogs was released it was a fairly easy thing to throw together - we've got all these tracks that were left on the cutting room floor, or we've got the jeremy b sides etc....lets bang them on a compilation. 

Given how everything has changed in how music is released there is no longer that ready to go, easy acess material to lump together into a release with little effort. It might even involve the band having to record or re record parts now, or add parts to finish music off so in that sense I dont see Lost Dogs 2 ever coming to fruition 

I mean when you have tracks like Yellow Ledbetter just hanging around its one of the easiest things to ever decide to do, and I still have no idea why SOLAT didnt get included on that

They have quite a few popular songs that weren’t on Lost Dogs1…

Breath
SOLAT
Leatherman
Man of the Hour
Long Road
I Got ID
Etc

plus songs since then
Of the Earth
Get It Back
Can’t Deny Me 
Cold Confession
Let It Ride
Ole
etc

plus more. I would have though they could fill a couple of discs/LPs

In all fairness I'd only be interested in such a release if it was going to bring music that we hadnt heard before. Another compilation of tracks we have ready access to already would, for me, be non essential. 

Such is how music is accessed these days and the wide availability of almost every track released a physical release of tunes already on tunes/spotify etc would be nothing but a playlist we can already create. 

Those unreleased tracks however would be lovely......But as said previously I just really doubt there is enough of them finished sufficiently to actually release. I do hope I'm wrong but it always makes more sense to me that there more chance of the band reconvening to record the next studio album than to go over old tracks deemed not good enough to get them in a releasable form. 

Already one year on from Dark Matter.......maybe we can hope they get the itch to get creative again soon and especially so given the form we found them in on DM

BF25394

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

Largo in Los Angeles. 324 seats, and definitely not a bad seat in the house.

tylermoore

BF25394 said:

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

Largo in Los Angeles. 324 seats, and definitely not a bad seat in the house.

if a place only has a few hundred seats, I’d hope there isn’t a bad spot 

That venue is special tho. 

dmbolp

tylermoore said:

BF25394 said:

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

Largo in Los Angeles. 324 seats, and definitely not a bad seat in the house.

if a place only has a few hundred seats, I’d hope there isn’t a bad spot 

That venue is special tho. 

Yeah, I'm speaking to 5-10k+ venues

Douglas12373

Man, Largo is such an incredible, only in LA kind of place. One of many things I miss about living there.

Also lived in Albany but never saw a show at the Egg. I was a student and broke AF, tho I don't remember any shows when I lived there that I passed on. Probably missed something i would have gone to because no internet and didn't see it in the paper

pjl44

Merkin Baller said:

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

The Egg in Albany would apply... what say you @PJ44? 

I mean what a room. 

JimmyV

pjl44 said:

Merkin Baller said:

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

The Egg in Albany would apply... what say you @PJ44? 

I mean what a room. 

"My seats were CRAP! Look at this angle!!! Thanks for nothing, 10C."

Lost In Ohio

PrezIntense said:

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. 

I think saying this time period fucked the band over is a little dramatic. If they wanted to tour they would've toured (COVID did mess that up in 2020/2021 but had nothing to do with 2018 and 2019). If they wanted to release that album they would have. They made decisions that were best for them considering everything they had in their lives and that's fine. Nobody got fucked over -- you included.

But they could have toured in 2019, especially if the 2018 album had happened. They chose not to because they were recording Gigaton.

Lost In Ohio

D-Rod said:

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

A birdie might have told me that there were other holdovers from 2018 that landed on Gigaton.

What was dropped? I can certainly imagine...

Lost In Ohio

DM282158 said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

I believe he’s referring to, when Can’t Deny Me was released it was advertised as “from the forthcoming album produced by Brendan O’Brien”. Different from Gigaton. 

The main thing I’ll always be curious about as to why it was scrapped, seemingly so late in the game. And subsequently, how many finished tracks we’ve yet to hear from it. 

Yup. The 2018 album was NOT supposed to be Gigaton.

The 2018 album would have had Can't Deny Me and....who knows.

DM282158

Lost In Ohio said:

DM282158 said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

I believe he’s referring to, when Can’t Deny Me was released it was advertised as “from the forthcoming album produced by Brendan O’Brien”. Different from Gigaton. 

The main thing I’ll always be curious about as to why it was scrapped, seemingly so late in the game. And subsequently, how many finished tracks we’ve yet to hear from it. 

Yup. The 2018 album was NOT supposed to be Gigaton.

The 2018 album would have had Can't Deny Me and....who knows.

Top of my list of “PJ mysteries” for sure!

Gravey1975

DM282158 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

DM282158 said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

I believe he’s referring to, when Can’t Deny Me was released it was advertised as “from the forthcoming album produced by Brendan O’Brien”. Different from Gigaton. 

The main thing I’ll always be curious about as to why it was scrapped, seemingly so late in the game. And subsequently, how many finished tracks we’ve yet to hear from it. 

Yup. The 2018 album was NOT supposed to be Gigaton.

The 2018 album would have had Can't Deny Me and....who knows.

Top of my list of “PJ mysteries” for sure!

There were some rumoured song titles out there on a reddit thread, but when i just did a search the page had been edited to remove their names and descriptions so i dont think the band and/or management want the titles shared. It doesnt sound like they had a whole album in the can but probably a fair few songs, with some making onto Gigaton.

yanknuck

Merkin Baller said:

dmbolp said:

bb4packers said:

I think at the first few U2 shows they were actually telling people to sit down because of the potential "vertigo".  Those stairs are pretty steep - especially in the 400 section.  I only went to one U2 show but as great as the visuals are the sound is just spectacular.   The other good thing is it really doesn't seem to matter where you sit in the stands - the 100's seem to be some of the least popular seats. We sat is the upper deck (400s) and had a great view. 

Yep, I've always hated the cliche "There's not a bad seat in the house" but the Sphere might be the only venue I'd be willing to apply this to, other than the limited view seats in the back of the 100s sections, from like row 20 and back.

The Egg in Albany would apply... what say you @PJ44? 

The Egg awesome venue! I've been there a number of times. It's needing a makeover, but sight and sound is top notch.