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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,885
    opsopcopolis said:
    SandyRavage said:
    Billy Strings is the best thing going in live music right now. 

    Better than PJ, D&C and Phish shows in the last couple of years in my honest opinion… 
    I'm happy for his success and understand why people love seeing him, but bluegrass at that scale just doesn't do it for me. I enjoyed seeing him when he was in smaller rooms, but i lose interest in an arena
    seeing him at a 3k seater next week.  looking forward to it but not a big fan yet.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Bunting10Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 752
    Bentleyspop said:
    qkibs said:
    Who specifically are the sources of these rumors? Have they been correct often in the past? I am kinda bummed about the Florida show. They are too big for that venue. Going to make tickets a nightmare! I haven’t seen them before and am already feeling down about it lol.
    Stone
    Lol
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,379
    Ratdog was the best post Jerry band IMHO. Bob Weir in a small venue when he could still sing. If you ever saw the real Grateful Dead, or even the JGB, then none of these bands really compare. Billy Strings is good and so is JRAD. But it is not even close. I have never heard a note of Phish's music, and I do not really want to. I saw the real thing, many times. Bring on Pearl Jam 2025!
  • MJ178168MJ178168 Posts: 192
    cutz said:
    Well, whichever way they decide to do the Lottery, should they bring back Show Priority?
    Would love it if they did, but not holding my breath 
  • OfThePearlOfThePearl Posts: 873
    Without it, the whole intent of spreading out the wealth most equitably is totally lost. But I don't know if PJ can force TM to use a more layered/nuanced lottery system.
  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,990
    ComeToTX said:
    opsopcopolis said:
    SandyRavage said:
    Billy Strings is the best thing going in live music right now. 

    Better than PJ, D&C and Phish shows in the last couple of years in my honest opinion… 
    I'm happy for his success and understand why people love seeing him, but bluegrass at that scale just doesn't do it for me. I enjoyed seeing him when he was in smaller rooms, but i lose interest in an arena
    seeing him at a 3k seater next week.  looking forward to it but not a big fan yet.
    I'll be there as well @ComeToTX ....stoked! :bee: 
  • rival9500rival9500 Posts: 588
    cutz said:
    Well, whichever way they decide to do the Lottery, should they bring back Show Priority?
    Absolutely.  Worst part of the presale last year was seeing people get so many shows and others get nothing.  Someone shouldn’t win for every show when others get nothing.  Priority at least helped with that.  
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    2012: Philly
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  • BloodMeridian80BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 693
    edited December 2024
    Show priority should return, but won't. If they use the same program as last tour, get ready for an unexpected # of people to score double-GA's at the two-night stands and a solid percentage to get shut out of both (if you don't go for P2's). Seems pretty lazy to not have priority as part of the system. There must be a $ reason TM doesn't want it in the lottery, at least we have F2F.

  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,073
    Get_Right said:
    Ratdog was the best post Jerry band IMHO. Bob Weir in a small venue when he could still sing. If you ever saw the real Grateful Dead, or even the JGB, then none of these bands really compare. Billy Strings is good and so is JRAD. But it is not even close. I have never heard a note of Phish's music, and I do not really want to. I saw the real thing, many times. Bring on Pearl Jam 2025!
    Everything sounded like one long song at the Dead show.  I understand the drugs making it more enjoyable, but I only had a buzz from alcohol going.  Me and my buddy both agreed to leave early after intermission.  
  • hairgrowth2001hairgrowth2001 Posts: 443
    As long as F2F is a thing, that is what I will use to get tickets from now on.
  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,990
    RatherStarved said:
    Some thoughts on recent topics:

    1) Canada lottery - in 2020 it was a separate lottery from US although run at the same time.  

    2) Dead and Co. - I don’t mind them - PJ is much better imo - but Dead and Co. at Sphere was a disappointment.  Venue did not suit them.  They need to be at an amphitheater or something, and definitely outdoors.  Instead of a repeat Dead and Co. @ sphere while out west I hit PJ at Bottlerock and have no regrets at all.  
    Respecfully disagree on part of point #2. If there was ever a venue suited for a particular band the Sphere is just that for DeadCo
  • GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,654
    hairgrowth2001 said:
    As long as F2F is a thing, that is what I will use to get tickets from now on.
    +1
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,379
    bootlegger10 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Ratdog was the best post Jerry band IMHO. Bob Weir in a small venue when he could still sing. If you ever saw the real Grateful Dead, or even the JGB, then none of these bands really compare. Billy Strings is good and so is JRAD. But it is not even close. I have never heard a note of Phish's music, and I do not really want to. I saw the real thing, many times. Bring on Pearl Jam 2025!
    Everything sounded like one long song at the Dead show.  I understand the drugs making it more enjoyable, but I only had a buzz from alcohol going.  Me and my buddy both agreed to leave early after intermission.  
    Well this is not the right thread for this discussion, but there was a real ebb and flow to their shows. Some days were good, and some days less so. And some days it was just fun watching hippie chicks tripping balls  :o
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,470
    Yeah I don’t think priority will come back. But Hollywood will be like MSG, can only win 1.
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  • opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,206
    edited December 2024
    jjflash said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Some thoughts on recent topics:

    1) Canada lottery - in 2020 it was a separate lottery from US although run at the same time.  

    2) Dead and Co. - I don’t mind them - PJ is much better imo - but Dead and Co. at Sphere was a disappointment.  Venue did not suit them.  They need to be at an amphitheater or something, and definitely outdoors.  Instead of a repeat Dead and Co. @ sphere while out west I hit PJ at Bottlerock and have no regrets at all.  
    Respecfully disagree on part of point #2. If there was ever a venue suited for a particular band the Sphere is just that for DeadCo
    Id probably argue it’s more suited to bands like U2 and Muse who have always built through “composed” multimedia shows. Phish did a better job than d&c with the flexible jammy visuals too imo
    Post edited by opsopcopolis on
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    2008: Camden 2, Hartford
    2010: Hartford
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    2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
    2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
    2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,198
    hairgrowth2001 said:
    As long as F2F is a thing, that is what I will use to get tickets from now on.
    This ^
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,198
    jjflash said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Some thoughts on recent topics:

    1) Canada lottery - in 2020 it was a separate lottery from US although run at the same time.  

    2) Dead and Co. - I don’t mind them - PJ is much better imo - but Dead and Co. at Sphere was a disappointment.  Venue did not suit them.  They need to be at an amphitheater or something, and definitely outdoors.  Instead of a repeat Dead and Co. @ sphere while out west I hit PJ at Bottlerock and have no regrets at all.  
    Respecfully disagree on part of point #2. If there was ever a venue suited for a particular band the Sphere is just that for DeadCo
    If you enjoy it, by all means go for it! I felt like it was not a good show at all, but that’s what makes the world interesting- we’re all wired up a bit differently! 

    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • reedrothchildreedrothchild Posts: 591
    Indifference said:
    schaefferlax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I would have to be paid at least $1,000 to sit through a Dead & Co show at the Sphere.  It was awful in May.  Sphere was cool.  Music was dreadful. 
    Most overrated band of all time potentially. They fit perfectly with the Sphere gimmick.
    Obviously everyone has an opinion - I was at 17 PJ shows this year and Dead at sphere was better overall experience then all of them.
    I love the real Grateful Dead (more than PJ even), but Dead and Slow is hard to watch.  It's just Bobby and Mickey (barely) playing songs at half speed and hired musicians trying to cover up their mistakes.  That said, I would probably go to a Sphere show if convenient. 
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,936
    Isn't there a Sphere thread somewhere?
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,671
    I think there's a Dead and Co thread over in the other music forum. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,073
    What is everyone’s take on long vs short socks?  
  • jefftjefft Posts: 671
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Why is it a billion dollars to fly in and out of Toronto and Montreal? Jesus
    Try flying into Billy bishop or to buffalo and drive
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,379
    bootlegger10 said:
    What is everyone’s take on long vs short socks?  

    Long in the winter short in the summer.  =)
  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,918
    bootlegger10 said:
    What is everyone’s take on long vs short socks?  
    It depends.    I wear ankle socks with shorts in the summer but I prefer  long socks in the winter for the added warmth 
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    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  • Bunting10Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 752
    What’s up mannnn… is this the Dead and phish thread?  Cool…
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    2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
    2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
    2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
    2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
    2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
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    2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
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    2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,198
    Socks and crocs for the win! 
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    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,918
    RatherStarved said:
    Socks and crocs for the win! 
    My children do that.    The longer I’m a father , the more I relate with Red Foreman 
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    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
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    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  • Bunting10Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 752
    bootlegger10 said:
    What is everyone’s take on long vs short socks?  
    Lol
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    2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
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    2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
    2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
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  • opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,206
    bootlegger10 said:
    What is everyone’s take on long vs short socks?  
    Whatever my wife tells me I’m currently allowed to wear 
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    2008: Camden 2, Hartford
    2010: Hartford
    2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
    2015: NYC
    2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
    2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
    2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
  • MJ178168MJ178168 Posts: 192
    RatherStarved said:
    jjflash said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Some thoughts on recent topics:

    1) Canada lottery - in 2020 it was a separate lottery from US although run at the same time.  

    2) Dead and Co. - I don’t mind them - PJ is much better imo - but Dead and Co. at Sphere was a disappointment.  Venue did not suit them.  They need to be at an amphitheater or something, and definitely outdoors.  Instead of a repeat Dead and Co. @ sphere while out west I hit PJ at Bottlerock and have no regrets at all.  
    Respecfully disagree on part of point #2. If there was ever a venue suited for a particular band the Sphere is just that for DeadCo
    If you enjoy it, by all means go for it! I felt like it was not a good show at all, but that’s what makes the world interesting- we’re all wired up a bit differently! 

    Preach!
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