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    Wreckage
    vedpunk said:
    Wow, blown away. Best album since Yield. Yes, I said it.  Upper Hand into Waiting For Stevie might be the best 1-2 combo I’ve heard in 20 years. 
     its up there ..lets say 18 years..we had it last time with Come back-Inside job 
    Best since Riot Act. Yield is in a class by itself.
    I don't believe nothin', even if it's true.
    "That's a vibe" - Ryan Miller

    9/11/2022 - Madison Square Garden, New York
    Other bands
    Guster - 8/12/2023
    Guster - 3/30/2024
    Guster - 8/11/2024
    Built to Spill - 9/1/2024
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,458
    Upper Hand
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,458
    Upper Hand
    spankyMP said:
    @vedpunk
    @seanwon

    Agree 100%, but the run starts at Won't Tell for me.
    this
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    Wreckage
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    Why does everything have to be judged by live performances? Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is, which is one of their best songs from this part of their career. And yeah, I'm going to give Upper Hand and WFS a chance. Upper Hand sounds cool.
    I don't believe nothin', even if it's true.
    "That's a vibe" - Ryan Miller

    9/11/2022 - Madison Square Garden, New York
    Other bands
    Guster - 8/12/2023
    Guster - 3/30/2024
    Guster - 8/11/2024
    Built to Spill - 9/1/2024
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,458
    Upper Hand
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    Why does everything have to be judged by live performances? Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is, which is one of their best songs from this part of their career. And yeah, I'm going to give Upper Hand and WFS a chance. Upper Hand sounds cool.
     Cos PJ is the best live band on the planet,thats why 
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    Wreckage
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    Why does everything have to be judged by live performances? Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is, which is one of their best songs from this part of their career. And yeah, I'm going to give Upper Hand and WFS a chance. Upper Hand sounds cool.
     Cos PJ is the best live band on the planet,thats why 
    But you haven't even heard it live. You can't assume it's going to sound like DOTC live when it came out 5 hours ago. Besides, it's a good song. Better than all the other singles. At least it's straightforward, I don't even know what the others are about.
    I don't believe nothin', even if it's true.
    "That's a vibe" - Ryan Miller

    9/11/2022 - Madison Square Garden, New York
    Other bands
    Guster - 8/12/2023
    Guster - 3/30/2024
    Guster - 8/11/2024
    Built to Spill - 9/1/2024
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    How are people declaring songs that they've heard twice the best or worst of the band's decades-long career? How does anyone have an opinion stronger than "I dig it" or "It didn't grab me at first listen" about any of these songs at this point?
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    Wreckage
    BF25394 said:
    How are people declaring songs that they've heard twice the best or worst of the band's decades-long career? How does anyone have an opinion stronger than "I dig it" or "It didn't grab me at first listen" about any of these songs at this point?
    Not their best, "Leash" rubbed that out 31 years ago. It just has a lot of elements that make it an accomplished song. It sounds like one made by an experienced band. It's good.
    I don't believe nothin', even if it's true.
    "That's a vibe" - Ryan Miller

    9/11/2022 - Madison Square Garden, New York
    Other bands
    Guster - 8/12/2023
    Guster - 3/30/2024
    Guster - 8/11/2024
    Built to Spill - 9/1/2024
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    BF25394 said:
    How are people declaring songs that they've heard twice the best or worst of the band's decades-long career? How does anyone have an opinion stronger than "I dig it" or "It didn't grab me at first listen" about any of these songs at this point?
    Not their best, "Leash" rubbed that out 31 years ago. It just has a lot of elements that make it an accomplished song. It sounds like one made by an experienced band. It's good.
    Yes, "it's good" is a perfectly reasonable reaction to a song you just heard for the first or second time. So is "it didn't really grab me."But there are in fact people making sweeping declarations, for good and for bad, about the quality of these songs and their place within the overall Pearl Jam catalog. That seems premature.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    Wreckage
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    How are people declaring songs that they've heard twice the best or worst of the band's decades-long career? How does anyone have an opinion stronger than "I dig it" or "It didn't grab me at first listen" about any of these songs at this point?
    Not their best, "Leash" rubbed that out 31 years ago. It just has a lot of elements that make it an accomplished song. It sounds like one made by an experienced band. It's good.
    Yes, "it's good" is a perfectly reasonable reaction to a song you just heard for the first or second time. So is "it didn't really grab me."But there are in fact people making sweeping declarations, for good and for bad, about the quality of these songs and their place within the overall Pearl Jam catalog. That seems premature.
    It is. It just stood out to me. I didn't love the singles, so it instilled some hope in me. I guess it was a bit premature to post that. It is better than most of what's on Gigaton, am I right?
    I don't believe nothin', even if it's true.
    "That's a vibe" - Ryan Miller

    9/11/2022 - Madison Square Garden, New York
    Other bands
    Guster - 8/12/2023
    Guster - 3/30/2024
    Guster - 8/11/2024
    Built to Spill - 9/1/2024
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    How are people declaring songs that they've heard twice the best or worst of the band's decades-long career? How does anyone have an opinion stronger than "I dig it" or "It didn't grab me at first listen" about any of these songs at this point?
    Not their best, "Leash" rubbed that out 31 years ago. It just has a lot of elements that make it an accomplished song. It sounds like one made by an experienced band. It's good.
    Yes, "it's good" is a perfectly reasonable reaction to a song you just heard for the first or second time. So is "it didn't really grab me."But there are in fact people making sweeping declarations, for good and for bad, about the quality of these songs and their place within the overall Pearl Jam catalog. That seems premature.
    It is. It just stood out to me. I didn't love the singles, so it instilled some hope in me. I guess it was a bit premature to post that. It is better than most of what's on Gigaton, am I right?
    I love Gigaton so that's a high bar. But my point is that I would never make a sweeping statement like "these songs are better than their last album" after two listens. I've listened to Gigaton hundreds of times. I have a well-established sense of that album's merits. What I can tell you is that, having listened to "Dark Matter" and "Running" dozens of times, I'm really into them. Having heard everything else either twice or, in the case of "Wreckage," four times, all I can say is that I like what I've heard, but it will take much more time and attention to these songs to have a strong opinion about them.

    I think we've got a lot of Jeff Albertsons in the Ten Club.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    Wreckage
    It's a good song. Don't act like you're not allowed to get excited. I like Gigaton too. It had flaws, but was better than the three preceding albums. And who the hell is Jeff Albertson? Don't throw insults. I may have overreacted a bit. I like the song. It was a bright spot.
    I don't believe nothin', even if it's true.
    "That's a vibe" - Ryan Miller

    9/11/2022 - Madison Square Garden, New York
    Other bands
    Guster - 8/12/2023
    Guster - 3/30/2024
    Guster - 8/11/2024
    Built to Spill - 9/1/2024
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    drfoxdrfox Posts: 1,157
    Waiting For Stevie
    Love the Upper Hand - Waiting for Stevie - Running section of the album. 
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    GetRight13GetRight13 NY Posts: 586
    edited April 17
    React, Respond
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    I fear this too..  I think its going to kill the energy of the show if not placed perfectly in the set.    I love Seven O'clock, but I saw it live a few times and it kill the energy the shows had goin.  Well see.
    Post edited by GetRight13 on
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    MK88178MK88178 Chicago Posts: 523
    Wreckage
    Not sure why everyone gets so angry.  Music is very personal and very subjective.  
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    DEGBTIDEGBTI san diego Posts: 936
    Waiting For Stevie
    I picked WFS but setting sun is a close second!
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,022
    edited April 17
    Waiting For Stevie
    waiting for stevie.....holy shit.  I absolutely love how sounds on this one. the solo at the end.....whoa.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,022
    Waiting For Stevie
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    Why does everything have to be judged by live performances? Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is, which is one of their best songs from this part of their career. And yeah, I'm going to give Upper Hand and WFS a chance. Upper Hand sounds cool.
    because pj is known for their live shows.  If it doesn't translate live, then it doesn't get played and gets retired.  (hello getaway)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 675
    Upper Hand
    mcgruff10 said:
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    Why does everything have to be judged by live performances? Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is, which is one of their best songs from this part of their career. And yeah, I'm going to give Upper Hand and WFS a chance. Upper Hand sounds cool.
    because pj is known for their live shows.  If it doesn't translate live, then it doesn't get played and gets retired.  (hello getaway)
    Given how few cities they play anymore there are certainly lots of people for whom the album version is all they’ll ever hear though. Not every fan goes to shows.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,022
    Waiting For Stevie
    setting sun.....wow.  this one is top notch and can see it being amazing live.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    It's a good song. Don't act like you're not allowed to get excited. I like Gigaton too. It had flaws, but was better than the three preceding albums. And who the hell is Jeff Albertson? Don't throw insults. I may have overreacted a bit. I like the song. It was a bright spot.
    Dude, I wasn't even referring to you when I posted initially. Like I said, your reaction is totally reasonable. 
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    I fear this too..  I think its going to kill the energy of the show if not placed perfectly in the set.    I love Seven O'clock, but I saw it live a few times and it kill the energy the shows had goin.  Well see.
    Not from where I was standing, but to each their own.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    kmcmanus said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    WORST SONG?
    My Ranking (out of the songs I've heard  :|)
    1. Wreckage
    2. Running
    3. Dark Matter
    I have also heard the 30 second snippets.
    Wreckage is so flat,long ,monotone song and will be a killer mood live.
    its so good the lyrics tho..
    i heard full album,
    Why does everything have to be judged by live performances? Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is, which is one of their best songs from this part of their career. And yeah, I'm going to give Upper Hand and WFS a chance. Upper Hand sounds cool.
    because pj is known for their live shows.  If it doesn't translate live, then it doesn't get played and gets retired.  (hello getaway)
    Given how few cities they play anymore there are certainly lots of people for whom the album version is all they’ll ever hear though. Not every fan goes to shows.
    Even for those of us who go to a lot of shows, it's an every-couple-of-years or every-few-years thing. In the in-between time, the vast majority of the Pearl Jam I'm listening to is the studio recordings. 
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,022
    Waiting For Stevie
    the beginning of upper hand sounds like the beginning of where the streets have no name.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,824
    Got to Give
    mcgruff10 said:
    the beginning of upper hand sounds like the beginning of where the streets have no name.
    The end of "Won't Tell" sounds like the end of "All I Want Is You." The chiming guitar part, specifically.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    BR51107BR51107 Posts: 11
    Wreckage
    I don't think I can pick one. Man this album is amazing.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,022
    Waiting For Stevie
    BF25394 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    the beginning of upper hand sounds like the beginning of where the streets have no name.
    The end of "Won't Tell" sounds like the end of "All I Want Is You." The chiming guitar part, specifically.
    good pick up!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,189
    Upper Hand
    BF25394 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    the beginning of upper hand sounds like the beginning of where the streets have no name.
    The end of "Won't Tell" sounds like the end of "All I Want Is You." The chiming guitar part, specifically.
    I did like that one. I will have to listen for that when I get the album. 
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,923
    Won't Tell
    my rank 

    1.Upper Hand
    2.Waiting For Stevie
    3.Won't Tell
    4.Scared of Fear
    5.Dark Matter
    6.Running
    7. React/Respond
    8.Got to Give
    9.Setting Sun
    10.Something Special  
    11.Wreckage
        
        
        

        
    11. Wreckage? Whats not to like? Leaving people for dead?
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    Scared of Fear
    Scared of Fear
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