6 face value 200 level pairs for Wrigley 1 up now. Anyone with extras, sell soon!
The floodgates. Open, they are.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Posting 1 GA for Missoula at 815am PST. Hopefully someone here can get it.
I was able to cart (but didn’t hit submit)- I was just curious whether I would be able to cart it. Hopefully someone here got it.
I posted right around 816am PST. I'm sure someone got it by now, but it will shows as "pending offer' in my TM account and I haven't seen any e-mail notification that it sold.
@UmphreysJam34 - was this ever resolved? I listed a pair for Chicago 2 a few mins ago and now I see "2 Pending Offer" as the "Listing Status", but it does not appear the tickets are available anymore. Odd!
So about 4 hours after I listed them and they presumably sold, I started a live chat with TM. I got an automated response they were looking into it and would get back to me. Sure enough, 5 mins later I got an e-mail stating the listing sold. It still says my payout is on hold which I’m worried about, but it moved from “pending offer” which sounds like what you’re seeing to sold. Sounds like the same issue.
I had some tickets that sold immediately upon listing a few weeks ago, but experienced issues similar to yours afterwards. It took them a few days to get it sorted out, but they did eventually get back to me and said they were gonna send me the money. However, for some reason, they couldn't pay it out like a normal sale. They said they'd have to issue it as a refund. But they let me choose any card I wanted to issue the refund to. Which was good for me, as I didn't lose the 5% cash back I had earned on the original purchase, since I had them refund to a different card.
Anyone get a "Payout on Hold" notice in their TM account after selling tickets on F2F? I have added multiple accounts and Credit Cards, but still see this. Of course I am getting no response from TM help.
I had that on tickets I sold a month or so ago. Contacted them and they said they showed the payout was sent and I received it a day or so later. Have the same thing on my account now for some Wrigley tickets I sold and I'm assuming they'll be fine as well. Bank is verified and card on file is valid so they much have some sort of glitch going on. Shocker for TM
1998-06-30 Mpls | 2006-07-06 Las Vegas | 2010-05-03 Kansas City | 2011-07-01 St. Louis EV | 2011-07-02 Mpls EV | 2011-09-03 PJ20 2011-09-04 PJ20 | 2011-09-17 Winnipeg | 2012-09-30 Missoula | 2012-11-18 Tulsa EV | 2013-07-19 Chicago | 2013-11-15 Dallas 2013-11-16 OKC | 2014-10-09 Lincoln | 2014-10-17 Moline | 2014-10-19 St. Paul | 2014-10-20 Milwaukee | 2016-08-20 Chicago 2016-08-22 Chicago | 2018-08-18 Chicago | 2018-08-20 Chicago | 2022-05-09 Phoenix | 2022-05-20 Las Vegas | 2022-09-18 St. Louis 2022-09-20 OKC | 2023-08-31 St. Paul | 2023-09-02 St. Paul | 2024-05-16 Las Vegas | 2024-05-18 Las Vegas | 2024-08-31 Chicago
Posting 1 GA for Missoula at 815am PST. Hopefully someone here can get it.
I was able to cart (but didn’t hit submit)- I was just curious whether I would be able to cart it. Hopefully someone here got it.
I posted right around 816am PST. I'm sure someone got it by now, but it will shows as "pending offer' in my TM account and I haven't seen any e-mail notification that it sold.
@UmphreysJam34 - was this ever resolved? I listed a pair for Chicago 2 a few mins ago and now I see "2 Pending Offer" as the "Listing Status", but it does not appear the tickets are available anymore. Odd!
So about 4 hours after I listed them and they presumably sold, I started a live chat with TM. I got an automated response they were looking into it and would get back to me. Sure enough, 5 mins later I got an e-mail stating the listing sold. It still says my payout is on hold which I’m worried about, but it moved from “pending offer” which sounds like what you’re seeing to sold. Sounds like the same issue.
Appreciate this! I got the "Sold" email about an hour after listing and "Payout Sent" so good to go. Hope you get your cash soon!
Honestly not surprised. Selling out two United Center shows less than a year ago, and then playing Wrigley twice a year later seemed crazy to me. Would have been more fun if they played Michigan and Ohio instead.
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
The market for Wrigley1 is collapsing. Could be a lot of empty seats.
Edit: looks like the same thing is starting for night 2.
their manager TM made a huge mistake holding back premiums especially in NY and other east shows. Those coveted msg wing seats not available to ten c this tour were selling for $900+ during verified fan onsale. Now they are getting maybe $550 for them. We could see higher future fv prices, someone is taking a $$ hit this tour.
TM/PJ probably held back a large inventory of premium tickets due to the euro “desaster” hoping to convince east coasters to hop on a plane to Europe. Not a well designed tour nor ticketing system.
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Telluride CO // Brooklyn NY Posts: 450
I wouldn't say 9 pairs of face value tickets in the 2nd level is "collapsing". It'll be a mostly sold out show come the 29th.
2016: Telluride, CO 2018: Fenway 1 2021: Sea.Hear.Now 2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden 2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2 2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2
Interesting to see how their strategy for tickets/prices will be for South America.
Barrie 98, Toronto 00, Toronto 03, Buffalo 03, Toronto 05, Hamilton 05, Kitchener 05, Toronto 06 I II, Lolla 07, Vedder Toronto I II, Toronto 09, Philly Oct 30 & 31 2009, Buffalo 2010, Cleveland 2010, Toronto I II 2011, Hamilton 2011, Ottawa 2011, London 2013, Buffalo 2013, Pittsburgh 2013, FLL 2016, Miami 2016, Tor I & II 2016, Barcelona 2018, Toronto 2022, Ottawa 2022, Quebec City 2022, Hamilton 2022
Honestly not surprised. Selling out two United Center shows less than a year ago, and then playing Wrigley twice a year later seemed crazy to me. Would have been more fun if they played Michigan and Ohio instead.
Yes! It has been 10 years since there was a proper Michigan date and would have made my life a lot easier 😉
Posting 1 GA for Missoula at 815am PST. Hopefully someone here can get it.
I was able to cart (but didn’t hit submit)- I was just curious whether I would be able to cart it. Hopefully someone here got it.
I posted right around 816am PST. I'm sure someone got it by now, but it will shows as "pending offer' in my TM account and I haven't seen any e-mail notification that it sold.
@UmphreysJam34 - was this ever resolved? I listed a pair for Chicago 2 a few mins ago and now I see "2 Pending Offer" as the "Listing Status", but it does not appear the tickets are available anymore. Odd!
So about 4 hours after I listed them and they presumably sold, I started a live chat with TM. I got an automated response they were looking into it and would get back to me. Sure enough, 5 mins later I got an e-mail stating the listing sold. It still says my payout is on hold which I’m worried about, but it moved from “pending offer” which sounds like what you’re seeing to sold. Sounds like the same issue.
Appreciate this! I got the "Sold" email about an hour after listing and "Payout Sent" so good to go. Hope you get your cash soon!
Thanks! Glad to hear everything went through for you. I just received the following response from TM last night, so it looks like things are moving along, even though it still says "Payout on hold". Hopefully no one else continues to have issues.
"I understand that you have concerns regarding your payout as it shows "Payout on Hold". My apologies for the delay in receiving a response to your query. This was due to the high volume of interaction we are receiving.
Upon checking, I see that you've already updated your card on August 12, 2024, and the payment process started after that. I apologize for the confusion that it has caused regarding this. You should receive your payout within 5-7 business days starting from that date."
Recent Vedder Interview below. At $150 a ticket the shows are grossing about $2.5 million and most are way more than that at 16,000 seats. It's kinda funny that they can't make enough money to cover costs at that. Its an outright joke. Adding premiums at $500 average for 2000 seats adds another $700k net to the gross. And then they are holding back seats and fan club folks are in the uppers? not right at all.
I will give them credit that pre-covid, they did keep ticket prices down and I can see at the restart of touring in 2021/2022 yes, there was gauging probably but NOW? I can't believe these guys are that busy they can still overcharge for trucks and crews....but again, we really don't know but if this band can't make it selling out every gig basically in a heartbeat at these prices, then what the hell are the other folks doing?
to compare. Greta Van Fleets tickets are mostly $100 or less and they are playing arenas and have a bigger show than PJ does and I can assure you they are not doing it AT A LOSS. Its all a choice. They do much less premiums at lower prices as well.
The part I'm more burned about is those lowers in Philly that didn't go to fan clubs while alot of us got uppers at that gig for the first time ever. I know demand is high but they should NOT be holding these back. Same with Wrigley.
oh well, move along...nothing is going to change. I think PART or MOST of the issue is, they are NOT doing the same amount of dates so they have to charge more to make up for that. Look at the tours in 2013 and 2016, lots more dates. This is what you get with an aging band. Get used to it i guess.....
~ ninjadave ~ 2003 - State College 5/3 2006 - Cleveland 5/20 and Pittsburgh 6/23 2008 - Washington DC 6/22 2009 - Philly Spectrum 10/28, 10/30 and 10/31 2010 - Columbus 5/6 and Cleveland 5/9 2011 - Philly [EV] 6/25 and PJ20 9/3-4 2013 - Pittsburgh 10/11, Buffalo 10/12, Philly 10/21-22 and Baltimore 10/27 2014 - Detroit 10/16 2016 - Philly 4/28-29 and Philly [TotD] 11/5 2020 - Baltimore 3/28 2022 - Ottawa 9/3 and Camden 9/14 2023 - Indianapolis 9/10 2024 - Philly 9/7-9 and Baltimore 9/12
Anyone get that Philly 1 first row single upper a few minutes ago?
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Recent Vedder Interview below. At $150 a ticket the shows are grossing about $2.5 million and most are way more than that at 16,000 seats. It's kinda funny that they can't make enough money to cover costs at that. Its an outright joke. Adding premiums at $500 average for 2000 seats adds another $700k net to the gross. And then they are holding back seats and fan club folks are in the uppers? not right at all.
I will give them credit that pre-covid, they did keep ticket prices down and I can see at the restart of touring in 2021/2022 yes, there was gauging probably but NOW? I can't believe these guys are that busy they can still overcharge for trucks and crews....but again, we really don't know but if this band can't make it selling out every gig basically in a heartbeat at these prices, then what the hell are the other folks doing?
to compare. Greta Van Fleets tickets are mostly $100 or less and they are playing arenas and have a bigger show than PJ does and I can assure you they are not doing it AT A LOSS. Its all a choice. They do much less premiums at lower prices as well.
The part I'm more burned about is those lowers in Philly that didn't go to fan clubs while alot of us got uppers at that gig for the first time ever. I know demand is high but they should NOT be holding these back. Same with Wrigley.
oh well, move along...nothing is going to change. I think PART or MOST of the issue is, they are NOT doing the same amount of dates so they have to charge more to make up for that. Look at the tours in 2013 and 2016, lots more dates. This is what you get with an aging band. Get used to it i guess.....
We know the industry took a nearly two year beating from Covid, and in the time since, faced cancellations which also cost lots of $.
Greta VF plays roughly triple the amount of shows that PJ plays. Their techs and support likely do not command the compensation required by PJs crew. Greta mixes in many smaller venues, which probably keeps their touring overhead costs lower. A fair comparison would be to PJs peers, such as Metallica. Major concerts like this cost $200. The one issue, is PJ doesn’t offer much of a lower price for upper level seats which is unfair. Their legacy ticketing system likely makes that difficult
They told us numerous times they need sell premium tickets to keep down “face value.” Are they lying to us? My preference would be to have a fairer version of face value. The best seats should cost the most, but they are likely trapped by a pricing and seating model they developed when they were very young. So without premium seats, those legacy seniority tickets will probably have a much higher face than $200.
I’m sure they will turn F2F back on in a day or two. They are just playing their games. This happened with Indy last year when I was trying to sell tickets.
It’s not fatal in the case of Wrigley because you can still transfer. Bigger issue for other shows.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Barrie 98, Toronto 00, Toronto 03, Buffalo 03, Toronto 05, Hamilton 05, Kitchener 05, Toronto 06 I II, Lolla 07, Vedder Toronto I II, Toronto 09, Philly Oct 30 & 31 2009, Buffalo 2010, Cleveland 2010, Toronto I II 2011, Hamilton 2011, Ottawa 2011, London 2013, Buffalo 2013, Pittsburgh 2013, FLL 2016, Miami 2016, Tor I & II 2016, Barcelona 2018, Toronto 2022, Ottawa 2022, Quebec City 2022, Hamilton 2022
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Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
2011-09-04 PJ20 | 2011-09-17 Winnipeg | 2012-09-30 Missoula | 2012-11-18 Tulsa EV | 2013-07-19 Chicago | 2013-11-15 Dallas
2013-11-16 OKC | 2014-10-09 Lincoln | 2014-10-17 Moline | 2014-10-19 St. Paul | 2014-10-20 Milwaukee | 2016-08-20 Chicago
2016-08-22 Chicago | 2018-08-18 Chicago | 2018-08-20 Chicago | 2022-05-09 Phoenix | 2022-05-20 Las Vegas | 2022-09-18 St. Louis
2022-09-20 OKC | 2023-08-31 St. Paul | 2023-09-02 St. Paul | 2024-05-16 Las Vegas | 2024-05-18 Las Vegas | 2024-08-31 Chicago
their manager TM made a huge mistake holding back premiums especially in NY and other east shows. Those coveted msg wing seats not available to ten c this tour were selling for $900+ during verified fan onsale. Now they are getting maybe $550 for them. We could see higher future fv prices, someone is taking a $$ hit this tour.
TM/PJ probably held back a large inventory of premium tickets due to the euro “desaster” hoping to convince east coasters to hop on a plane to Europe. Not a well designed tour nor ticketing system.
2018: Fenway 1
2021: Sea.Hear.Now
2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden
2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2
"I understand that you have concerns regarding your payout as it shows "Payout on Hold". My apologies for the delay in receiving a response to your query. This was due to the high volume of interaction we are receiving.
Upon checking, I see that you've already updated your card on August 12, 2024, and the payment process started after that. I apologize for the confusion that it has caused regarding this. You should receive your payout within 5-7 business days starting from that date."
2003 - State College 5/3
2006 - Cleveland 5/20 and Pittsburgh 6/23
2008 - Washington DC 6/22
2009 - Philly Spectrum 10/28, 10/30 and 10/31
2010 - Columbus 5/6 and Cleveland 5/9
2011 - Philly [EV] 6/25 and PJ20 9/3-4
2013 - Pittsburgh 10/11, Buffalo 10/12, Philly 10/21-22 and Baltimore 10/27
2014 - Detroit 10/16
2016 - Philly 4/28-29 and Philly [TotD] 11/5
2020 - Baltimore 3/28
2022 - Ottawa 9/3 and Camden 9/14
2023 - Indianapolis 9/10
2024 - Philly 9/7-9 and Baltimore 9/12
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
They told us numerous times they need sell premium tickets to keep down “face value.” Are they lying to us? My preference would be to have a fairer version of face value. The best seats should cost the most, but they are likely trapped by a pricing and seating model they developed when they were very young. So without premium seats, those legacy seniority tickets will probably have a much higher face than $200.
2018: Fenway 1
2021: Sea.Hear.Now
2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden
2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023