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  • ekim997ekim997 Posts: 201
    Back up at Wrigley after a little over an hour.
    Philly back too
  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,704
    edited August 14
    Another lower level pair for Baltimore, gone instantly.
    Post edited by spankyMP on
    Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 :( Baltimore 3/28/20 :( Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,795
    edited August 14
    With Premium tickets priced just a tad above original face value, we are in the “list them now or eat them” phase if you have spare or unused tickets for Wrigley.  This is your warning lol.

    TM slashing premium tickets this early makes me think they have even more stashed away to release.  Feeling confident about getting last minute tickets to all shows this fall.  
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,704
    With Premium tickets priced just a tad above original face value, we are in the “list them now or eat them” phase if you have spare or unused tickets for Wrigley.  This is your warning lol.

    TM slashing premium tickets this early makes me think they have even more stashed away to release.  Feeling confident about getting last minute tickets to all shows this fall.  
    They absolutely do, how else would half a section or full rows be released out of thin air periodically. It's disgusting. They really couldn't have gotten an extra 1,000 10C tickets per venue?
    Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 :( Baltimore 3/28/20 :( Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,890
    With Premium tickets priced just a tad above original face value, we are in the “list them now or eat them” phase if you have spare or unused tickets for Wrigley.  This is your warning lol.

    TM slashing premium tickets this early makes me think they have even more stashed away to release.  Feeling confident about getting last minute tickets to all shows this fall.  
    For a typical arena show I’d say the cut off to list and comfortably expect a sale for decent tickets would be the 2 week out mark. 

    For the ballpark shows I’d push it to 4 weeks out.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,504
    spankyMP said:
    With Premium tickets priced just a tad above original face value, we are in the “list them now or eat them” phase if you have spare or unused tickets for Wrigley.  This is your warning lol.

    TM slashing premium tickets this early makes me think they have even more stashed away to release.  Feeling confident about getting last minute tickets to all shows this fall.  
    They absolutely do, how else would half a section or full rows be released out of thin air periodically. It's disgusting. They really couldn't have gotten an extra 1,000 10C tickets per venue?

    From what they have told us they needed to charge a higher face value  

    So everyone's saying they should have just "sold another 1000 fan club tickets," that would have meant higher face values


    It really sounds like they held back premium ticket inventory in the spring in early summer because of the problematic European ticket sales, as there was nothing available for this leg for weeks and weeks and weeks, and now there are tickets everywhere including Philadelphia N2 for a decent price.



    In this era with variable ticket pricing, I'm guessing that artists share in a certain percentage of revenue over a base amount. Either case, someone is going to take a loss or earn less than expected this tour
  • Or you can just have behind the stage seats as usual
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,462
    GA = $299
    FRONT FLOORS & STONE/MIKE SIDE = $225-249
    REAR FLOORS & LOWER 100's NEAR = $199-219
    LOWER 100's & 1st ROW 200's = $159-179
    REAR 100's, UPPER 200'S & 1st ROW 300's = $129-149
    REAR 200's & ALL OTHER 300's = $99-119
    LAWN = $99

    No Premium. Every show will sell out. 

    Vancouver didn't sell out, Portland, Sacramento, LA... none of them sold out.

    They would with tiered pricing. Or close to it. Closer than the current system.

    More people in the house = more people buying merch, food & drinks.

    Time to ditch PJ Premium, boys. 

    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,887
    Go Animal said:
    GA = $299
    FRONT FLOORS & STONE/MIKE SIDE = $225-249
    REAR FLOORS & LOWER 100's NEAR = $199-219
    LOWER 100's & 1st ROW 200's = $159-179
    REAR 100's, UPPER 200'S & 1st ROW 300's = $129-149
    REAR 200's & ALL OTHER 300's = $99-119
    LAWN = $99

    No Premium. Every show will sell out. 

    Vancouver didn't sell out, Portland, Sacramento, LA... none of them sold out.

    They would with tiered pricing. Or close to it. Closer than the current system.

    More people in the house = more people buying merch, food & drinks.

    Time to ditch PJ Premium, boys. 

    Assume you're passing on the $299 GA unless there's a "happy ending" package 😂😂😂
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,462
    SHZA said:
    Go Animal said:
    GA = $299
    FRONT FLOORS & STONE/MIKE SIDE = $225-249
    REAR FLOORS & LOWER 100's NEAR = $199-219
    LOWER 100's & 1st ROW 200's = $159-179
    REAR 100's, UPPER 200'S & 1st ROW 300's = $129-149
    REAR 200's & ALL OTHER 300's = $99-119
    LAWN = $99

    No Premium. Every show will sell out. 

    Vancouver didn't sell out, Portland, Sacramento, LA... none of them sold out.

    They would with tiered pricing. Or close to it. Closer than the current system.

    More people in the house = more people buying merch, food & drinks.

    Time to ditch PJ Premium, boys. 

    Assume you're passing on the $299 GA unless there's a "happy ending" package 😂😂😂
    Happy Ending is $10 per ticket😇
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,866
    The goal is to maximize revenue.  In theory they could do that at higher prices even if there are some empty seats.  Of course then they miss out on the extras like merch and food/drink.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • JE224127JE224127 Posts: 440
    About to drop a Philly night 2 single, 215 row 3 aisle seat. Grabbing a beer so in about 3 mins….
  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,288
    Gonna be putting my fenway night 2 tix up soon.    
  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,887
    Another 150 pair Wrigley 1 
  • Refresh my memory, they did an Indy drop last year right? So not expecting a drop this year? Maybe they’re holding back some refunds but I honestly doubt it.
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • pearljamnewfpearljamnewf Posts: 231
    Gonna be putting my fenway night 2 tix up soon.    
    I just got my accoms and flights. Now time to break my fingers hitting refresh for good tickets. I'm sure you'll offload yours if they are quality. 
  • yosiyosi Posts: 2,975
    Single for MSG 1 up 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi Posts: 2,975
    Philly 2, as well. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • MakeUSmileMakeUSmile Posts: 1,127
    Ooofa.  That’s a hard resell.  Curious to see how long this stays up. 
    can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
  • MakeUSmileMakeUSmile Posts: 1,127
    philly 1 section 103 row 2 was just up.  Couldn’t cart it. 
    can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
  • philly 1 section 103 row 2 was just up.  Couldn’t cart it. 
    God damn. Been refreshing all night and went to go pee, probably wouldn’t have gotten it but jeeeeeez
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,240
    philly 1 section 103 row 2 was just up.  Couldn’t cart it. 
    God damn. Been refreshing all night and went to go pee, probably wouldn’t have gotten it but jeeeeeez
    Need to invest in a bed pan if you wanna compete in this game. It’s the strategy of the pros.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,504
    Go Animal said:
    GA = $299
    FRONT FLOORS & STONE/MIKE SIDE = $225-249
    REAR FLOORS & LOWER 100's NEAR = $199-219
    LOWER 100's & 1st ROW 200's = $159-179
    REAR 100's, UPPER 200'S & 1st ROW 300's = $129-149
    REAR 200's & ALL OTHER 300's = $99-119
    LAWN = $99

    No Premium. Every show will sell out. 

    Vancouver didn't sell out, Portland, Sacramento, LA... none of them sold out.

    They would with tiered pricing. Or close to it. Closer than the current system.

    More people in the house = more people buying merch, food & drinks.

    Time to ditch PJ Premium, boys. 


    Yes but they sell out east coast shows quicker than it took you to make that nice comment. Yes, Fans near the stage should pay alot more than those near the flags and banners, but that goes against their philosophy that seating should be dictated based on decisions we made 30+ years ago. That’s starting to cost them money. It seems the huge euro ticket inventory delayed all of the recent US ticket drops.

    Meanwhile MSG $520 and Philly N2 $287s are long gone. That’s like a bargain to many east fans. Those of us in the east are stuck with this as our only option unless we win a low % lottery, because they repeatedly refuse to maximize their revenue by never playing enough shows that align with their fanbase here.

    If after this year, they are still wanting more Vegas or Europe shows, someone with an economics background needs to sit down with them and show them their stats from this years touring. 
  • mikesbrimikesbri Toronto Posts: 961
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    Barrie 98, Toronto 00, Toronto 03, Buffalo 03, Toronto 05, Hamilton 05, Kitchener 05, Toronto 06 I II, Lolla 07, Vedder Toronto I II, Toronto 09, Philly Oct 30 & 31 2009, Buffalo 2010, Cleveland 2010, Toronto I II 2011, Hamilton 2011, Ottawa 2011, London 2013, Buffalo 2013, Pittsburgh 2013, FLL 2016, Miami 2016, Tor I & II 2016, Barcelona 2018, Toronto 2022, Ottawa 2022, Quebec City 2022, Hamilton 2022
  • smagnus1smagnus1 Posts: 111
    Next few weeks for msg are going to be rough. Fear they are sitting on a pile of tickets to dump as premiums and so many still looking, folks may jump. Hoping I’m wrong
  • smagnus1 said:
    Next few weeks for msg are going to be rough. Fear they are sitting on a pile of tickets to dump as premiums and so many still looking, folks may jump. Hoping I’m wrong
    Posted about this a week ago. Where did all the side sections in the 100s go? Are they gonna dump them all at $400?
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • AB285441AB285441 Posts: 200
    edited August 15
    smagnus1 said:
    Next few weeks for msg are going to be rough. Fear they are sitting on a pile of tickets to dump as premiums and so many still looking, folks may jump. Hoping I’m wrong
    No doubt about it.  I feel like this tour more than any historically there are so many of us without tickets in close proximity to the start.  Frustrating.
    Post edited by AB285441 on
  • Mhemm11Mhemm11 Posts: 43
    MSG dropped a bunch of tickets a day or 2 before the show in 2022, the pricing and available seats were changing minute by minute.  A lot of the tickets were club seats behind the stage.
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,866
    The LA shows this spring release the entire wing sections within a day or two of each show.  Mostly at standard.  The MSG sale pattern is reminiscent.  Can you imagine… 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • runstaplesrunstaples Posts: 466
    It's just stupid that MSG is less than 3 weeks away, baltimore less than a month away, and there's not more tickets dropped or prices dropped. People have to plan flights/hotels. 
    Appeared to be an animal, yet so polite.
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