Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

Get_Right

Poncier said:

Maybe it's time for 10 Club to restrict total number of requests with such limited touring.
Not go back to only 1 pair like in the 90's, but maybe limit to 4 shows max. Would have at least some effect on leveling the playing field so you don't have some folks get 10 shows and others get shut out. Would have a similar effect as priority, folks would likely request their local shows then maybe one other city.

This is a great suggestion that would be easy for TM to execute.  No priority, no seniority, just a cap on the number of shows or requests.
And I am surprised there is no Hartford gig on this tour, but it looks like the logistics and dates did not work.

bbdowell1627

washed in black said:

bbdowell1627 said:

So… I just noticed that the people who were Lucky 🍀 enough to get chosen for tickets - P1-P2 - we don’t see our actual seats till late on Friday 2/23 - which is after the public verified fan sale - so that leads me to believe that our seats will not be actually determined until the verified fans choose their seats and we get what’s leftover seniority first- is that how it’s going to play out?

I hadn't seen a time frame for seat assignments, just that it was coming this week. Can you point me to where you saw that? 

ETA: I'm guessing you are basing this on what is stated in the tenclub presale timeline?

Claim Tickets Emailed: 

Claim Ticket emails with instructions on how to view your tickets will come from customer_support@orders.ticketmaster.com by end of day Friday, Feb 23.

Yes that is what I was reading- I’m thankful for getting picked- but when I saw that P1 is the entire stadium except Pit for Wrigley I’m fearful of a long summer obsessing On F2F trading. High Class Problems Right?

jcmitchell28

Noload said:

Still don't believe they are done with Missoula.  Did anyone capture the 10c seating chart from the ticket request?  I can't remember what that one looked like since I assumed most folks that put in for that show would get it.

Missoula is the only show we put in for this time around from both mine and my wife’s account. Have heard nothing to this point, so I assume we both took L’s. We have been very fortunate in the past…so it goes. I seem to remember Pit, Floor and some sections to the right of the stage, but could be off a little bit. 

I’m sure we will find our way into the building somehow. 

washed in black

bbdowell1627 said:

washed in black said:

bbdowell1627 said:

So… I just noticed that the people who were Lucky 🍀 enough to get chosen for tickets - P1-P2 - we don’t see our actual seats till late on Friday 2/23 - which is after the public verified fan sale - so that leads me to believe that our seats will not be actually determined until the verified fans choose their seats and we get what’s leftover seniority first- is that how it’s going to play out?

I hadn't seen a time frame for seat assignments, just that it was coming this week. Can you point me to where you saw that? 

ETA: I'm guessing you are basing this on what is stated in the tenclub presale timeline?

Claim Tickets Emailed: 

Claim Ticket emails with instructions on how to view your tickets will come from customer_support@orders.ticketmaster.com by end of day Friday, Feb 23.

Yes that is what I was reading- I’m thankful for getting picked- but when I saw that P1 is the entire stadium except Pit for Wrigley I’m fearful of a long summer obsessing On F2F trading. High Class Problems Right?

Since it seems they did most if not all the drawings yesterday rather than spreading it out over three days, I'm hopeful that assignments will be sent well before late Friday, and that would be the absolute latest you are notified. But, that's just a guess.

kaw753

Noload said:

Still don't believe they are done with Missoula.  Did anyone capture the 10c seating chart from the ticket request?  I can't remember what that one looked like since I assumed most folks that put in for that show would get it.

It was all excellent seats and GA for Missoula. 

Johnny Abruzzo

greenygreen777 said:

Been a casual PJ fan since the beginning but was broke and/or homeless in my late teens early 20’s, so affording concert tickets was the last thing on my mind when I was more concerned with where I would sleep each night. I got married in my late 20’s, and we both put ourselves through college and are in our careers finally making a very respectable income (probs for about 5 years now). We can now enjoy going to concerts and traveling on a whim.

We are both early to mid-40’s now, and over the last 5-10 years, I have fallen in love w/ PJ and their music. It just hits different, and I feel fortunate to experience their music almost for the first time.

My s/o and I went to our 1st show in Chi last Fall. I had been in the 10C for about 3 years, and the 1st time I ever attempted to get tickets through the 10C, I scored GA x2 for 1 night. When we arrived, we were surrounded by peeps in line for wristbands that all told stories about shows they had been to over the last few decades. Many of these fans were traveling show to show and had notched 20-30 and in some cases 40-50 shows over time. I felt almost like a poser as this was my 1st show. Of course, many explained how we were in for a treat as we got GA/pit for our 1st PJ concert. As the concert came to an end, between the fellow PJ fans, the band, and the music, I had never experienced anything like it.

Long story short, I understand those upset with seniority here on 10C not getting the tickets they desired or any tickets at all, but… how many amazing shows have you been fortunate to see over the years? I wish there was a perfect system and seeing peeps get multiple GA tickets while others miss out completely is frustrating. I wanted GA for Wrigley both nights this go-around, and was willing to even fly to Vegas, but will likely enjoy seats for 1 night in Wrigley for my 2nd show ever. I would have loved to have seen PJ in East Lansing back in 98 as well, but I didn’t have that kind of coin and was just trying to eat, so apologies if I only joined the “club” 3 years ago, I did not even know there was a 10C club until a few years ago…

That's an amazing story. Thanks for inspiring me today!!!

asacks81

I'm not complaining as I think the system probably did what it said what it was going to do and seemed clear enough (and I got what would've been my first choice anyway) but why wouldn't this be a "better" system:

1. Randomly assign every 10C member a lottery number (1 to 100K or however many 10C members there are) -- this is the ONLY GLOBAL lottery 
2. Go back to priority -- everyone rank their choice of shows (in their actual preference as there would be no incentive in my system to try and choose between shows you are likely to get and shows that you aren't, will see why in a second).  In fact, each member could also rank their choice of seats (you could rank GA first for your preferred show, then P1, then GA for Show 2, etc., or if you'd rather, you could rank a bunch of GAs first, then a bunch of seating, or vice versa if you prefer assigned seats, to maximize your chances of GA OVER a particular show if you're more agnostic between certain shows).
3. 10C starts at #1 for the lottery -- 1 gets their first choice, 2 gets their first choice unless sold out, in which case 2 gets their second choice, and so on, all the way through the lottery until you get to the last person (who gets their first choice that is still available, unless all of their available choices are sold out, in which case they are of course unfortunately shut out of this lottery)
4.  Restart at 1 again for remaining availability (or, if you really want to be more fair, run it in REVERSE the second time so last place in the first go around has the BEST chance of getting two shows), and recursively again and again until all shows are sold out or all 10C members are out of available options

Is there a reason that my system above wouldn't be better?  Would still do seniority for seating within the show sections to give that group a benefit.  Seems to me this would maximize getting everyone into a show, and would also optimize getting as many people as possible into their preferred shows and their preferred seats.  Only thing it would minimize is the lucky few who get a bunch of shows, which I think most would agree we'd all rather minimize the chance of missing out entirely.  Just my two cents for the 10C gods out there to conisder for the future (I hope there are MANY more years of 10C lotteries to complain about!!)

Johnny Abruzzo

I don't remember seeing a lot of "P2" winners, besides MSG. I feel like they are gonna keep drawing today. Anyway, I was extraordinarily lucky. It's gonna be a crazy year!

LV N1 - GA
LV N2 - GA
Baltimore - GA
Phila. N1 - P1
Phila. N2 - P1
NYC N1 - no email
NYC N2 - no email

punkdefied.

Very happy with the way the cookie crumbled this tour

Seattle N1 & N2 - P2
NYC MSG N1 - No email
NYC MSG N2 - P2
Philly N1 & N2 - PIT
Baltimore - PIT

Get_Right

asacks81 said:

I'm not complaining as I think the system probably did what it said what it was going to do and seemed clear enough (and I got what would've been my first choice anyway) but why wouldn't this be a "better" system:

1. Randomly assign every 10C member a lottery number (1 to 100K or however many 10C members there are) -- this is the ONLY GLOBAL lottery 
2. Go back to priority -- everyone rank their choice of shows (in their actual preference as there would be no incentive in my system to try and choose between shows you are likely to get and shows that you aren't, will see why in a second).  In fact, each member could also rank their choice of seats (you could rank GA first for your preferred show, then P1, then GA for Show 2, etc., or if you'd rather, you could rank a bunch of GAs first, then a bunch of seating, or vice versa if you prefer assigned seats, to maximize your chances of GA OVER a particular show if you're more agnostic between certain shows).
3. 10C starts at #1 for the lottery -- 1 gets their first choice, 2 gets their first choice unless sold out, in which case 2 gets their second choice, and so on, all the way through the lottery until you get to the last person (who gets their first choice that is still available, unless all of their available choices are sold out, in which case they are of course unfortunately shut out of this lottery)
4.  Restart at 1 again for remaining availability (or, if you really want to be more fair, run it in REVERSE the second time so last place in the first go around has the BEST chance of getting two shows), and recursively again and again until all shows are sold out or all 10C members are out of available options

Is there a reason that my system above wouldn't be better?  Would still do seniority for seating within the show sections to give that group a benefit.  Seems to me this would maximize getting everyone into a show, and would also optimize getting as many people as possible into their preferred shows and their preferred seats.  Only thing it would minimize is the lucky few who get a bunch of shows, which I think most would agree we'd all rather minimize the chance of missing out entirely.  Just my two cents for the 10C gods out there to conisder for the future (I hope there are MANY more years of 10C lotteries to complain about!!)

It may be better for the fans, but it would slow down TM's ability to sell tickets which is their objective through these sales. They probably begrudge the 10C sales as hurting profits and increasing administrative costs.

Kwieneke

I wonder what we may see today, if anything. 

asacks81

Get_Right said:

asacks81 said:

I'm not complaining as I think the system probably did what it said what it was going to do and seemed clear enough (and I got what would've been my first choice anyway) but why wouldn't this be a "better" system:

1. Randomly assign every 10C member a lottery number (1 to 100K or however many 10C members there are) -- this is the ONLY GLOBAL lottery 
2. Go back to priority -- everyone rank their choice of shows (in their actual preference as there would be no incentive in my system to try and choose between shows you are likely to get and shows that you aren't, will see why in a second).  In fact, each member could also rank their choice of seats (you could rank GA first for your preferred show, then P1, then GA for Show 2, etc., or if you'd rather, you could rank a bunch of GAs first, then a bunch of seating, or vice versa if you prefer assigned seats, to maximize your chances of GA OVER a particular show if you're more agnostic between certain shows).
3. 10C starts at #1 for the lottery -- 1 gets their first choice, 2 gets their first choice unless sold out, in which case 2 gets their second choice, and so on, all the way through the lottery until you get to the last person (who gets their first choice that is still available, unless all of their available choices are sold out, in which case they are of course unfortunately shut out of this lottery)
4.  Restart at 1 again for remaining availability (or, if you really want to be more fair, run it in REVERSE the second time so last place in the first go around has the BEST chance of getting two shows), and recursively again and again until all shows are sold out or all 10C members are out of available options

Is there a reason that my system above wouldn't be better?  Would still do seniority for seating within the show sections to give that group a benefit.  Seems to me this would maximize getting everyone into a show, and would also optimize getting as many people as possible into their preferred shows and their preferred seats.  Only thing it would minimize is the lucky few who get a bunch of shows, which I think most would agree we'd all rather minimize the chance of missing out entirely.  Just my two cents for the 10C gods out there to conisder for the future (I hope there are MANY more years of 10C lotteries to complain about!!)

It may be better for the fans, but it would slow down TM's ability to sell tickets which is their objective through these sales. They probably begrudge the 10C sales as hurting profits and increasing administrative costs.

Maybe?  I don't think it would slow down TM -- the algorithim to do this is very simple--all you need is a database with everyone's preference and the list of how many 10C seats you have available in each section for each show, and it could run the lottery results in about 2 seconds.  I'm also assuming that whatever the allocation that 10C gets is the same as today (and that most/all shows end up selling out of 10C seats) so I don't think that really changes anything, we are still selling the same total number of 10C seats for the same price, and TM can sell the rest of the tix through verified fan as they already are, etc.  I'm not sure how the seat assignment process works but presumably once you know who is getting the tix that is also already automated.

OceansJenny

curmudgeoness said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

EBowie said:

I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club.  Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.

Alot of the people who won 7+ shows are people who have been in the TC along time...

This was way, way, WAY better than the F5 days.

I did great in the F5 days 😂 a bit of a leg up being a bit younger/tech savvy

epsty1e

kaw753 said:

Noload said:

Still don't believe they are done with Missoula.  Did anyone capture the 10c seating chart from the ticket request?  I can't remember what that one looked like since I assumed most folks that put in for that show would get it.

It was all excellent seats and GA for Missoula. 

CM189191

OceansJenny said:

curmudgeoness said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

EBowie said:

I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club.  Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.

Alot of the people who won 7+ shows are people who have been in the TC along time...

This was way, way, WAY better than the F5 days.

I did great in the F5 days 😂 a bit of a leg up being a bit younger/tech savvy

I'd rather wait in line at the Sears Customer Service counter

For you kids out there, Sears used to be....

...well, Customer Service was...

ah, never mind - get off my lawn!

Leezestarr313

greenygreen777 said:

Been a casual PJ fan since the beginning but was broke and/or homeless in my late teens early 20’s, so affording concert tickets was the last thing on my mind when I was more concerned with where I would sleep each night. I got married in my late 20’s, and we both put ourselves through college and are in our careers finally making a very respectable income (probs for about 5 years now). We can now enjoy going to concerts and traveling on a whim.

We are both early to mid-40’s now, and over the last 5-10 years, I have fallen in love w/ PJ and their music. It just hits different, and I feel fortunate to experience their music almost for the first time.

My s/o and I went to our 1st show in Chi last Fall. I had been in the 10C for about 3 years, and the 1st time I ever attempted to get tickets through the 10C, I scored GA x2 for 1 night. When we arrived, we were surrounded by peeps in line for wristbands that all told stories about shows they had been to over the last few decades. Many of these fans were traveling show to show and had notched 20-30 and in some cases 40-50 shows over time. I felt almost like a poser as this was my 1st show. Of course, many explained how we were in for a treat as we got GA/pit for our 1st PJ concert. As the concert came to an end, between the fellow PJ fans, the band, and the music, I had never experienced anything like it.

Long story short, I understand those upset with seniority here on 10C not getting the tickets they desired or any tickets at all, but… how many amazing shows have you been fortunate to see over the years? I wish there was a perfect system and seeing peeps get multiple GA tickets while others miss out completely is frustrating. I wanted GA for Wrigley both nights this go-around, and was willing to even fly to Vegas, but will likely enjoy seats for 1 night in Wrigley for my 2nd show ever. I would have loved to have seen PJ in East Lansing back in 98 as well, but I didn’t have that kind of coin and was just trying to eat, so apologies if I only joined the “club” 3 years ago, I did not even know there was a 10C club until a few years ago…

This was awesome to read, I am happy for you guys! I felt somewhat similar when I went to PJ20 lol Things have changed since then too. Back then, there was no GA and the first I think five rows were reserved for old time fans, with some lucky random fans getting front row unexpectedly (which was why it was fun to go to the ticket window because you never knew where you'd end up). Then it felt like PJ were getting tired of seeing the same lifeless crowd in the front rows, especially after seeing more energized people in GA in other countries, so they changed things up and made the GA floor. I can see where they are coming from, it's gotta be more fun with enthusiastic people up front. Now by now that system has also been taken over by people who will try anything and everything to be on the rail at every show, which makes it once again boring for the band because they are seeing the same faces yet again but I guess the band still likes it better than an all-seated place.

I understand that people get pissed when they don't get tickets, especially when they see others scoring but nobody guaranteed us tickets. And I find it funny how all the names of the complainers during tour and ticket time sound familiar, because they always complain about the same thing. Don't let them spoil your fun and enjoy the shows! You will, regardless of where you sit anyways. Except for maybe second to last row behind the stage, which we had in Seattle in 2013 :P But it was still an awesome respite from everyday life and a wonderful experience to visit the "PJ Mekka".

on2legs

JimmyV said:

on2legs said:

I feel for everyone here who missed out.   But there are still ways to get into most of these shows.  In 2020, I flamed out on all my requests.  I put in for MSG, Baltimore and Nashville and got none of them. Mostly because there are too many fans and not enough tickets.  Not because of the system.   But I was able to grab two lower level seats near the stage for MSG in the verified fan sale.  I was later able to grab two lower level seats for Nashville in the verified fan sale when those went on sale.  Win some. Lose some. 

This is honestly more impressive than winning the lottery. Well done. 

Thank you.  They were two separate sales so I could at least divide and conquer.  otherwise I would have been hounding f2f until I scored.  The unintended consequence of my quest is that I was later able to apply my skills to help me score Taylor Swift and Harry Styles tickets for my teenage daughters. 

kmcmanus

All this talk of which system is better ignores the real point: they do not play nearly enough shows to meet demand. (Well except in Cali). They could play 4 nights at MSG and sell out. If they played Hartford that might ease demand for Fenway. If they played Detroit or Milwaukee that could help people get Wrigley tix. Playing Pittsburgh or Buffalo or Charlotte would offset Philly demand. And I haven’t even mentioned the Southeast yet. 

This is their biggest tour in about 15 years and it’s still nowhere near enough. Whatever system they use will lead to heartbroken or angry members unless they actually play enough dates.

darwinstheory

CM189191 said:

OceansJenny said:

curmudgeoness said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

EBowie said:

I’d like to see poll results on those who think the current system is good versus when they joined the fan club.  Gee whiz, I wonder what those numbers would look like.

Alot of the people who won 7+ shows are people who have been in the TC along time...

This was way, way, WAY better than the F5 days.

I did great in the F5 days 😂 a bit of a leg up being a bit younger/tech savvy

I'd rather wait in line at the Sears Customer Service counter

For you kids out there, Sears used to be....

...well, Customer Service was...

ah, never mind - get off my lawn!

This made me laugh.

Weston1283

Someone on FB just posted they had a friend who just now got a Vegas confirmation