Dark Matter World Tour 2024

Tjm007

KM155315 said:

Icbeiting said:

Anyone remember when you had an opportunity to get two tickets. Period? None of this being able to get tickets for 23402304983 shows. Ever since they started doing that it's been an absolute shit show. I don't know why I'm even a 10C member anymore. It's not like:

- I even get tix now cause of the lottery (been shut out for years)

- I'll pay $175/tix nowadays

I wish everyone good luck.

Absolutely this. I’ve been a 10 club member for 21 years. Every single 10 Club ticket sale has been marred by problems. Then the experience of picking up the tickets is usually a shambles. There is never enough merchandise. Yes, we get let in early but that is it. 

Being a member of 10 club has been seriously devalued over the years to the point where I am wondering why I bother. 

So I’ve registered as a verified fan to see if the tickets will be any cheaper.

i don’t think they realise how difficult it will be to fill the Spurs stadium when Green Day are playing Wembley on the same day - and also it being Glastonbury weekend.

Just had another email reminding me to buy 10C tickets. Early signs of poor sales ?

NewfieintheUSA

Tjm007 said:

KM155315 said:

Icbeiting said:

Anyone remember when you had an opportunity to get two tickets. Period? None of this being able to get tickets for 23402304983 shows. Ever since they started doing that it's been an absolute shit show. I don't know why I'm even a 10C member anymore. It's not like:

- I even get tix now cause of the lottery (been shut out for years)

- I'll pay $175/tix nowadays

I wish everyone good luck.

Absolutely this. I’ve been a 10 club member for 21 years. Every single 10 Club ticket sale has been marred by problems. Then the experience of picking up the tickets is usually a shambles. There is never enough merchandise. Yes, we get let in early but that is it. 

Being a member of 10 club has been seriously devalued over the years to the point where I am wondering why I bother. 

So I’ve registered as a verified fan to see if the tickets will be any cheaper.

i don’t think they realise how difficult it will be to fill the Spurs stadium when Green Day are playing Wembley on the same day - and also it being Glastonbury weekend.

Just had another email reminding me to buy 10C tickets. Early signs of poor sales ?

They are trying to head off the complaints of people who didn't submit their requests

josevolution

Lerxst1992 said:

tylerj said:

I think a lot of Americans (of which I am) don't realize full that the average wage in UK and much of Europe is oftentimes a lot lower than the USA. The average wage in Britain is around $38,000 give or take. It's a bit higher in Ireland. In the U.S. it's in the mid $50,000. So we're talking around $15,000 difference a year. 

And folks overseas don’t realize americans pay $25,000 per year on healthcare, which is tied to our employment which is “at will”  and employers wouldn’t think twice firing someone and 93% of workers here are non union with zero rights, and it costs $300,000 to send our kids to university. We have terrible public transit, so we need to drive and cars are outrageously expensive. 

I get this tour is expensive but there is only one Pearl Jam. Three of the boys will be over 60 by the end of the year, who knows how many years we have left to enjoy them live.

Glad I saw most of my PJ shows when it wasn’t like it is today I’m perfectly fine if I don’t see them again! At some point you have to tell yourself it it worth it? To me it’s not worth the hassle to attend a concert anymore 

beeswax

eeriepadave said:

I never saw or heard of Deep Sea Diver before until I just looked them up, The lead singer of Deep Sea Diver was also in The Shins? That's pretty cool. I think this is her in one of my favorite videos from the past 10-15 years

no clue where this came from (wrong thread?), but thank you!
i love the shins and always loved to watch her play. didn't know she had a band

on2legs

josevolution said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tylerj said:

I think a lot of Americans (of which I am) don't realize full that the average wage in UK and much of Europe is oftentimes a lot lower than the USA. The average wage in Britain is around $38,000 give or take. It's a bit higher in Ireland. In the U.S. it's in the mid $50,000. So we're talking around $15,000 difference a year. 

And folks overseas don’t realize americans pay $25,000 per year on healthcare, which is tied to our employment which is “at will”  and employers wouldn’t think twice firing someone and 93% of workers here are non union with zero rights, and it costs $300,000 to send our kids to university. We have terrible public transit, so we need to drive and cars are outrageously expensive. 

I get this tour is expensive but there is only one Pearl Jam. Three of the boys will be over 60 by the end of the year, who knows how many years we have left to enjoy them live.

Glad I saw most of my PJ shows when it wasn’t like it is today I’m perfectly fine if I don’t see them again! At some point you have to tell yourself it it worth it? To me it’s not worth the hassle to attend a concert anymore 

Is it really a hassle?  We have to fill out an electronic form and hit submit.  People may not like the new rules but it’s not a hassle. Much less work than standing in line at a Ticketmaster outlet or repeatedly redialing to get through on the phone.  And probably even less work than filling out an index card, finding a stamp and walking to a mailbox like we used to have to do for fan club tickets.  

Get_Right

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

JojoRice said:

runstaples said:

So the only location that won't have F2F is NYC? I guess maybe Chicago also? I'm just thinking if I change my mind and want to go to Boston I can probably get decent seats with F2F.

NYC and Chicago will have F2F.  Just don't count on many if any seats popping up for NYC. 

MSG will be tough through 10C and retail channels. That said 48hrs before the last shows tickets were not hard to find. 

Fans say this but day of show there were zero tickets on Ticketmaster, and stub hub was at $500. Unless you had Tempos cell, you were SOL. Most of us in NY have never ever seen those magic blue dots for available seats on Ticketmaster. Red ones yes, but they’re usually close to $1000.

The forum.

beeswax

i don't know how to feel about all of this. i was so excited about the announcement - finally good news during those weird times - now i'm just dissapointed. i can afford it, yet it doesn't feel fair and i did hold them to a higher standard.

of course capitalism is a bitch, the whole industry is complex and it's easy to whine "it's too expensive" without knowing the details and calculations. infaltion and covid was tough (although the concert industry got a lot of compensation here), yada yada. the circumstances haven't just been tough for artists, but for many of us non-millionaires, too.

yes, some other acts charge even more, but how's that a good excuse? on the other hand arctic monkeys last year were 60e and the prices for smaller shows generally haven't changed drastically. do they pay their employees much less? do they sleep in worse hotels and drink worse champagne? in fact, i don't understand why older artists often charge so much more, bono, neil young and mick jagger don't have to worry about their retirement, do they?

maybe there are some good arguments, but i don't see them and therefore feeling quite ripped off.

the only good reason for those doubled ticket prices i can think of is they don't want us to travel so much.

Get_Right

josevolution said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tylerj said:

I think a lot of Americans (of which I am) don't realize full that the average wage in UK and much of Europe is oftentimes a lot lower than the USA. The average wage in Britain is around $38,000 give or take. It's a bit higher in Ireland. In the U.S. it's in the mid $50,000. So we're talking around $15,000 difference a year. 

And folks overseas don’t realize americans pay $25,000 per year on healthcare, which is tied to our employment which is “at will”  and employers wouldn’t think twice firing someone and 93% of workers here are non union with zero rights, and it costs $300,000 to send our kids to university. We have terrible public transit, so we need to drive and cars are outrageously expensive. 

I get this tour is expensive but there is only one Pearl Jam. Three of the boys will be over 60 by the end of the year, who knows how many years we have left to enjoy them live.

Glad I saw most of my PJ shows when it wasn’t like it is today I’m perfectly fine if I don’t see them again! At some point you have to tell yourself it it worth it? To me it’s not worth the hassle to attend a concert anymore 

I felt the same way last time around and then they go and put on a show like Camden. I definitely do not feel any sense of urgency though.

josevolution

on2legs said:

josevolution said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tylerj said:

I think a lot of Americans (of which I am) don't realize full that the average wage in UK and much of Europe is oftentimes a lot lower than the USA. The average wage in Britain is around $38,000 give or take. It's a bit higher in Ireland. In the U.S. it's in the mid $50,000. So we're talking around $15,000 difference a year. 

And folks overseas don’t realize americans pay $25,000 per year on healthcare, which is tied to our employment which is “at will”  and employers wouldn’t think twice firing someone and 93% of workers here are non union with zero rights, and it costs $300,000 to send our kids to university. We have terrible public transit, so we need to drive and cars are outrageously expensive. 

I get this tour is expensive but there is only one Pearl Jam. Three of the boys will be over 60 by the end of the year, who knows how many years we have left to enjoy them live.

Glad I saw most of my PJ shows when it wasn’t like it is today I’m perfectly fine if I don’t see them again! At some point you have to tell yourself it it worth it? To me it’s not worth the hassle to attend a concert anymore 

Is it really a hassle?  We have to fill out an electronic form and hit submit.  People may not like the new rules but it’s not a hassle. Much less work than standing in line at a Ticketmaster outlet or repeatedly redialing to get through on the phone.  And probably even less work than filling out an index card, finding a stamp and walking to a mailbox like we used to have to do for fan club tickets.  

To me I’d rather just stick to up & coming bands when I can just get a ticket way easier! PJ is a big band so I get the demand but I get more satisfaction by going to smaller venues and seeing bands that haven’t or won’t get huge yet saw QOTSA tickets no problem smaller venue, just saw Band of Horses tiny venue for $50 and walked out completely satisfied. Like I said I saw this band when it was in its beginning and it felt great to me it doesn’t feel the same anymore! But it’s just me I don’t expect anyone else to feel like I do. Enjoy the shows I’m not sure I’ll be trying for any of the dates 

devonfz

OK did anyone really think ticket prices were gonna be less than say 160? I mean come on they were about right where I would’ve said between 150 and 200 no surprise there. 

As far as seats couple things for some of the tougher shows say Madison Square Garden and Philly maybe  Vegas if you got a really shitty fan club number, you might not get picked for reserved seating they might run out of tickets toin priority 1. Obviously they’re doing the upper reserve fan  club seats this time so that you know you might be up there but I’m guessing anyone with a number lower than say 350 ain’t getting priority one reserve seating that coupled with all of the prime seats reserved for platinum, you might have to go for priority t2 upper deck fan club tickets not a great dilemma to have. That’s the way it is.

RatherStarved

NewfieintheUSA said:

Tjm007 said:

KM155315 said:

Icbeiting said:

Anyone remember when you had an opportunity to get two tickets. Period? None of this being able to get tickets for 23402304983 shows. Ever since they started doing that it's been an absolute shit show. I don't know why I'm even a 10C member anymore. It's not like:

- I even get tix now cause of the lottery (been shut out for years)

- I'll pay $175/tix nowadays

I wish everyone good luck.

Absolutely this. I’ve been a 10 club member for 21 years. Every single 10 Club ticket sale has been marred by problems. Then the experience of picking up the tickets is usually a shambles. There is never enough merchandise. Yes, we get let in early but that is it. 

Being a member of 10 club has been seriously devalued over the years to the point where I am wondering why I bother. 

So I’ve registered as a verified fan to see if the tickets will be any cheaper.

i don’t think they realise how difficult it will be to fill the Spurs stadium when Green Day are playing Wembley on the same day - and also it being Glastonbury weekend.

Just had another email reminding me to buy 10C tickets. Early signs of poor sales ?

They are trying to head off the complaints of people who didn't submit their requests

I’ve never seen them do that before.  I’m thinking it could be a lower than expected sales thing.  

I know I’ve entered for a lot fewer shows than I might have with lower prices and better expected seats.  

deanr82

Please sign the petition to get Pearl Jam to come to Perth!

https://chng.it/GcL2fZxdxN

#Perth

matt84

RatherStarved said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Tjm007 said:

KM155315 said:

Icbeiting said:

Anyone remember when you had an opportunity to get two tickets. Period? None of this being able to get tickets for 23402304983 shows. Ever since they started doing that it's been an absolute shit show. I don't know why I'm even a 10C member anymore. It's not like:

- I even get tix now cause of the lottery (been shut out for years)

- I'll pay $175/tix nowadays

I wish everyone good luck.

Absolutely this. I’ve been a 10 club member for 21 years. Every single 10 Club ticket sale has been marred by problems. Then the experience of picking up the tickets is usually a shambles. There is never enough merchandise. Yes, we get let in early but that is it. 

Being a member of 10 club has been seriously devalued over the years to the point where I am wondering why I bother. 

So I’ve registered as a verified fan to see if the tickets will be any cheaper.

i don’t think they realise how difficult it will be to fill the Spurs stadium when Green Day are playing Wembley on the same day - and also it being Glastonbury weekend.

Just had another email reminding me to buy 10C tickets. Early signs of poor sales ?

They are trying to head off the complaints of people who didn't submit their requests

I’ve never seen them do that before.  I’m thinking it could be a lower than expected sales thing.  

I know I’ve entered for a lot fewer shows than I might have with lower prices and better expected seats.  

Demand will be lower than expected because

A. Many people are not prepared to pay £160 for a ticket and 
B.You can’t select GA only

thefurnitureguy

UmphreysJam34 said:

How does fan to fan exchange work for other countries outside of the US? Trying to put together a trip for Australia, but it’s nice to know I can turn to F2F if something comes up. 

I went to AUS/NZ last summer. The good news is that if you have to eat the cost of the tickets, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the airfare. 

I hope the trip works out for you - it was a blast!

jameshutt

I’ve just seen that the ten club tickets for the Manchester UK show is £160… is that for real? Sorry, but that is not reasonable, why pay for ten club to only then be ripped off further for a ticket 😞

RatherStarved

matt84 said:

RatherStarved said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Tjm007 said:

KM155315 said:

Icbeiting said:

Anyone remember when you had an opportunity to get two tickets. Period? None of this being able to get tickets for 23402304983 shows. Ever since they started doing that it's been an absolute shit show. I don't know why I'm even a 10C member anymore. It's not like:

- I even get tix now cause of the lottery (been shut out for years)

- I'll pay $175/tix nowadays

I wish everyone good luck.

Absolutely this. I’ve been a 10 club member for 21 years. Every single 10 Club ticket sale has been marred by problems. Then the experience of picking up the tickets is usually a shambles. There is never enough merchandise. Yes, we get let in early but that is it. 

Being a member of 10 club has been seriously devalued over the years to the point where I am wondering why I bother. 

So I’ve registered as a verified fan to see if the tickets will be any cheaper.

i don’t think they realise how difficult it will be to fill the Spurs stadium when Green Day are playing Wembley on the same day - and also it being Glastonbury weekend.

Just had another email reminding me to buy 10C tickets. Early signs of poor sales ?

They are trying to head off the complaints of people who didn't submit their requests

I’ve never seen them do that before.  I’m thinking it could be a lower than expected sales thing.  

I know I’ve entered for a lot fewer shows than I might have with lower prices and better expected seats.  

Demand will be lower than expected because

A. Many people are not prepared to pay £160 for a ticket and 
B.You can’t select GA only

And C) The range of seats you could be stuck with if you don’t get GA includes some really undesirable sections for most shows.

bbiggs

Can someone please post the Wrigley seating chart that shows the 10C seat locations for this tour?  Thanks in advance.

greytouk

I had pit tickets for the 4/20/2016 Raleigh NC show that was cancelled in protest of the despicable anti-transgender "Bathroom Bill". Though I was horribly disappointed, I absolutely supported the Band's decision. We were given to understand that once the offensive bullshit law was done away with, they would prioritize coming back and rewarding the supportive but heartbroken fans with a killer show. The initial announcement said "In the meantime we will be watching with hope and waiting in line for a time when we can return."

That was 8 years ago. There is not a single show on this tour anywhere in the southeast US.

jhulud

On the 10C tix request lottery thing…anyone add the commemorative tix package option? 

I kinda now wish I had but may be too late & I don’t want to re-do my request. 

Original_Shifty

For those not seeing those hold charges on their CC, I recommend calling your CC company. I called mine about the upcoming possible multiple charges if I get lottery lucky and they could actually see those charges on hold in their system. If you are worried about not seeing those entries, they should be able to see if they are there or not.