Dark Matter World Tour 2024

SE219519

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

Force Of Nature

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

Just look at the available tickets when making a selection. This tour it’s not necessarily the best (closest) seats

il vecchio

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

premium tickets are sold by ticketmaster during general sale as best seats, so if you select standing or seated in the lottery, and you get the seated, you end up having seated tickets further back than the premium

jonbond1779

Force Of Nature said:

Zen23 said:

How likely do you think it is that Pearl Jam will announce a second concert at the Co-op Live Arena on June 24 or 26?

I think unlikely. With London being a huge show and possibly more difficult to sell out why announce a third date in the UK.

im still hoping for a 2nd London show - a la Astoria 2006 or Shepard's Bush 2009 - we can dream.

pdalowsky

I just hope the ticket placement goes well.......The reaction to the pricing will look like a storm in a teacup if it doesnt

SE219519

Force Of Nature said:

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

Just look at the available tickets when making a selection. This tour it’s not necessarily the best (closest) seats

I'm looking Barcelona and in the map everything's in blue, but does it really mean they can seat you anywhere or it's just that they didn't highlight the 10c presale area?

SE219519

il vecchio said:

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

premium tickets are sold by ticketmaster during general sale as best seats, so if you select standing or seated in the lottery, and you get the seated, you end up having seated tickets further back than the premium

Are we sure 10c seats are behind premium seats?

Force Of Nature

SE219519 said:

Force Of Nature said:

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

Just look at the available tickets when making a selection. This tour it’s not necessarily the best (closest) seats

I'm looking Barcelona and in the map everything's in blue, but does it really mean they can seat you anywhere or it's just that they didn't highlight the 10c presale area?

Just checked myself, I think you could end up anywhere, blue or purple.

Kiwigirlnz101

So just letting you all know, if you have friend in London who is  Tottenham spurs fan club member, you can get tickets NOW they are packages but my friends and I have tickets sitting together pretty good seats , and you can get more then 2.  Pricey yes but your in and don't have to worry

kaw753

I feel like they could just do a "we will schedule as many shows as we sell out" every second night residency at Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle after the hockey season and check off a lot of boxes in terms of $$$, bitchy fans, sleeping in their own beds, etc.

It is assumed they are adding shows in NZ/Aus based on the original rumours, correct?

vampC83

Zen23 said:

TinaE said:

FBech sagte:

 Berlin kostet im gesamten Veranstaltungsort beim Vorverkauf für 10 Clubs 175 Euro, kein Unterschied. Wird der allgemeine Verkauf den gleichen Preis haben? 

Das würde mich auch interessieren...wir haben TenClub-Tickets für beide Tage reserviert, aber wird das funktionieren?? Was mich auch beunruhigt, ist die Tatsache, dass neuerdings zwischen dem Golden Circle oder einem Sitzplatz oder nur einem Sitzplatz unterschieden wird, obwohl der Preis für die Tickets gleich ist. In der Waldbühne wird es hoffentlich keine Sitzplatznummern geben, da es dort nur Sitzbankreihen gibt. Ich hoffe, dass es weiterhin möglich ist, einen Sitzplatz zu wählen, wie es bei den Konzerten 2018 und 2022 der Fall war...

Da wäre ich mir diesem Mal nicht so sicher. In den vergangen Jahren gab es auf der Waldbühne Berlin auch für die Ränge nur einen einzigen Bereich. Man konnte sich hinsetzen, wo man wollte. Der Saalplan Grafik im Ten Club Presale nach zu urteilen, wird der Sitzplatzbereich 2024 in Blöcke aufgeteilt. Und das wiederum macht es wahrscheinlich, da wie auch bei anderen Konzerten auf der Waldbühne die Sitzplätze klar nummeriert sind.

I wouldn't be so sure about that this time. In previous years, there was only one area for seating at the Waldbühne Berlin. You could sit wherever you wanted. Judging by the seating plan graphic in the Ten Club Presale, the seating area will be divided into blocks in 2024. And that in turn makes it likely, as the seats are clearly numbered, just like at other concerts on the Waldbühne.

Ich bin hier im Forum normalerweise eher die stille Mitleserin aber ich bin in in den deutschen Foren Festivals United und pearl-jam.de auf eine Info gestoßen, die hoffentlich nützlich ist.

Es haben ja schon einige darauf hingewiesen, dass der Saalplan für die Waldbühne eine Block-Aufteilung vermuten lässt und keine freie Platzwahl, wie bisher. 

Im pearl-jam.de Forum hat ein User Live Nation diesbezüglich angeschrieben und bekam folgende Antwort:

"Antwort gerade von Live Nation:

PJ Waldbühne hat nummerierte Sitzplätze, keine freie Platzwahl!
Es gibt weiter oben also im freien Verkauf auch günstigere Sitzplatz-Preise, wie genau konnte sie aber nicht sagen."

Hier der Link: https://www.pearl-jam.de/index.php/topic,8711.msg325949.html#new

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I am usually a silent reader here in the forum, but I came across some information in the German forums Festivals United and pearl-jam.de that I hope will be useful.

Some have already pointed out that the seating plan for the Waldbühne suggests a block layout and not a free choice of seats, as was previously the case.

In the pearl-jam.de forum, a user wrote to Live Nation about this and received the following reply:

"Reply just in from Live Nation:

PJ Waldbühne has numbered seats, no free seating!

So there are also cheaper seat prices further up in the free sale, but they couldn't say exactly how."

Here is the link: https://www.pearl-jam.de/index.php/topic,8711.msg325949.html#new

Zen23

SE219519 said:

il vecchio said:

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

premium tickets are sold by ticketmaster during general sale as best seats, so if you select standing or seated in the lottery, and you get the seated, you end up having seated tickets further back than the premium

Are we sure 10c seats are behind premium seats?

"Ten Club ticketed areas will be highlighted on the seating chart during the ticket request process. Due to high demand at many of these shows, Ten Club seats can be located in some of the upper sections."

Unmistakable. Unfortunately.

Spags

jonbond1779 said:

Force Of Nature said:

Zen23 said:

How likely do you think it is that Pearl Jam will announce a second concert at the Co-op Live Arena on June 24 or 26?

I think unlikely. With London being a huge show and possibly more difficult to sell out why announce a third date in the UK.

im still hoping for a 2nd London show - a la Astoria 2006 or Shepard's Bush 2009 - we can dream.

Shepard's Bush Ten Club tickets only show would be quite the thing...since we're dreaming.

il vecchio

Zen23 said:

SE219519 said:

il vecchio said:

SE219519 said:

How did you reach the conclusion that you can get the worst seats in the venue in the 10c lottery? isn't it supposed that they sell the best seats for the club? maybe I missed something.

premium tickets are sold by ticketmaster during general sale as best seats, so if you select standing or seated in the lottery, and you get the seated, you end up having seated tickets further back than the premium

Are we sure 10c seats are behind premium seats?

"Ten Club ticketed areas will be highlighted on the seating chart during the ticket request process. Due to high demand at many of these shows, Ten Club seats can be located in some of the upper sections."

Unmistakable. Unfortunately.

Totally agree. One more reason not to do the lottery

Slaintch

I don’t understand the obligation of having a bank account or debit card within the country of the event(s) in order to sell Fan-to-Fan. Certainly not inside the Euro Zone where you can transfer money instantly in another country at no cost. 

Can Ten Club confirm this obligation does not apply for sales inside the Euro Zone?
Thanks

Lerxst1992

greytouk said:

I had pit tickets for the 4/20/2016 Raleigh NC show that was cancelled in protest of the despicable anti-transgender "Bathroom Bill". Though I was horribly disappointed, I absolutely supported the Band's decision. We were given to understand that once the offensive bullshit law was done away with, they would prioritize coming back and rewarding the supportive but heartbroken fans with a killer show. The initial announcement said "In the meantime we will be watching with hope and waiting in line for a time when we can return."

That was 8 years ago. There is not a single show on this tour anywhere in the southeast US.

How about Baltimore as well. They said they’d offer something for fans who lost tickets to that show. Crickets.

Merkin Baller

Slaintch said:

I don’t understand the obligation of having a bank account or debit card within the country of the event(s) in order to sell Fan-to-Fan. Certainly not inside the Euro Zone where you can transfer money instantly in another country at no cost. 

Can Ten Club confirm this obligation does not apply for sales inside the Euro Zone?
Thanks

I don't know how it works for the Euro zone, but I do know this is a tickemaster policy, not a 10C policy, I encountered this last year when I wanted to sell a ticket for a show I had in Dublin... I couldn't resell it through TM as I didn't have an Irish bank account. 

By all means though, email 10c, they still might be able to clarify for you. 

Lerxst1992

PJ_Soul said:

Lerxst1992 said:

beeswax said:

i don't know how to feel about all of this. i was so excited about the announcement - finally good news during those weird times - now i'm just dissapointed. i can afford it, yet it doesn't feel fair and i did hold them to a higher standard.

of course capitalism is a bitch, the whole industry is complex and it's easy to whine "it's too expensive" without knowing the details and calculations. infaltion and covid was tough (although the concert industry got a lot of compensation here), yada yada. the circumstances haven't just been tough for artists, but for many of us non-millionaires, too.

yes, some other acts charge even more, but how's that a good excuse? on the other hand arctic monkeys last year were 60e and the prices for smaller shows generally haven't changed drastically. do they pay their employees much less? do they sleep in worse hotels and drink worse champagne? in fact, i don't understand why older artists often charge so much more, bono, neil young and mick jagger don't have to worry about their retirement, do they?

maybe there are some good arguments, but i don't see them and therefore feeling quite ripped off.

the only good reason for those doubled ticket prices i can think of is they don't want us to travel so much.

My wife bought us a small carvel cake tonight to celebrate Valentine’s Day. $35 usd. Please let that sink in how expensive that is for a small cake. Everything is expensive.

does PJ have more employees. Probably. Do they need better accommodations with needs that come with aging, larger families and circles of friends, more equipment. More physical therapy. More medical needs. Probably. Do the challenges of aging add to the cost, considering the full tour is around 30 shows and younger bands can spread out their overhead by playing 50 shows? Of course it’s much more expensive for PJ.

I was at a major arena show recently. 50 tractor trailer trucks with equipment. Probably a crew of 100 working on the tour, with many on the backline unionized. It’s easy to forget how incredibly expensive a major tour can be.

My issue isn't really the price in general. My problem is that the best tix and the worst tix cost the same price. I am genuinely shocked that PJ is doing that. Not having tiered pricing, and giving people a chance to choose less expensive tix by sacrificing proximity to the stage, and making people pay over $200CAD for upper level tix makes zero sense to me.

I 100% agree with that. I have a terrible number (my fault as I procrastinated 20 years about joining) but to be punished every show every tour is harsh, while the same fans sit next to the stage every show. The most unfair ticket policy in the history of the concert industry. But to also also pay the same price as those on the rail? The second worst ticket policy on earth. 

PJ Premium is fairer than those two policies. At least having a separate draw for upper level for the first time in the history this diabolical ticketing policy is fair. Let’s see whether some 70xxx fans are real fans by willing to sit behind me in the uppers, because for the first time ever, we have the choice to rule out sitting in the nose bleeds(thanks PJ!) But they’ll be in row 1 in the uppers, so they always win.

 

il vecchio

Merkin Baller said:

Slaintch said:

I don’t understand the obligation of having a bank account or debit card within the country of the event(s) in order to sell Fan-to-Fan. Certainly not inside the Euro Zone where you can transfer money instantly in another country at no cost. 

Can Ten Club confirm this obligation does not apply for sales inside the Euro Zone?
Thanks

I don't know how it works for the Euro zone, but I do know this is a tickemaster policy, not a 10C policy, I encountered this last year when I wanted to sell a ticket for a show I had in Dublin... I couldn't resell it through TM as I didn't have an Irish bank account. 

By all means though, email 10c, they still might be able to clarify for you

BUT ultimately you managed to sell it? and if so, how?

il vecchio

Slaintch said:

I don’t understand the obligation of having a bank account or debit card within the country of the event(s) in order to sell Fan-to-Fan. Certainly not inside the Euro Zone where you can transfer money instantly in another country at no cost. 

Can Ten Club confirm this obligation does not apply for sales inside the Euro Zone?
Thanks

it's for making people creating more bank accounts I believe, which tells me likely they get some % from the bank fees. Would not be surprised. Agree with you though, we should bomb them by email about this, they are replying quite fast these days (at least)