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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    demetrios said:
    igotid88 said:
    It will have to beat the 49,000 Green Day sold its first week. And Green Day promotes. And are probably more popular. At least we're hearing more about Dark Matter than we did with Dance 

    Oh it would be so sweet if Pearl Jam went live on SiriusXM Pearl Jam Radio day's before the album release for a wicked jam. That would get some promotion hits.
    promotion for whom

    They should go on Tiny Desk and stuff like that. To have people hear and see them. 
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  • BF25394
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    Haijay said:
    I have a lot to say, but this site on my phone is screwed still. Maybe in a day or two it will be back to normal. It’s an interesting conversation. 
    In the meantime, tell me how long you've been a fan, how many shows have you seen, and what makes you stay a member of the fan club? 
    Nothing ill-will intended, just curious. I have been around from the beginning, joined in 2006, and have seen them 20 times. 
    Been a fan since 1992. Saw my first show in 1994. Met Ed, Jeff and Dave A. after that show. Have seen them 70 times not counting the ten shows I just got tickets to today. I've seen them play every song from every studio album live (not including ones they've never played) except "Bugs" (which, honestly, is not missed). I've seen "Even Flow" 59 times (and don't ever need to see it again). My ideal show would be half the set from the new album, 25 percent deep cuts from prior albums and 25 percent "hits" (and only because that's what other people would need). I'd be perfectly happy with a set with nothing from Ten and lots of stuff from the 21st century.

    Understand that my comments about their popularity are objective, not subjective. I'm not commenting on how much I like them. I love them. They are my favorite band, and have been my favorite band since 1993. How much do I love them? Here's some perspective. My second-favorite band is Wilco. How much do I love Wilco? I first saw them in June 1995, when they had no following. I've seen them 52 times, and I've seen Jeff Tweedy 25 additional times. So I really love Wilco. But not as much as I love Pearl Jam. I wish the wider listening audience still felt this way, but I recognize that it doesn't, and I'm O.K. with it. 1993 to 1995 was a moment in time.
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:
    It will have to beat the 49,000 Green Day sold its first week. And Green Day promotes. And are probably more popular. At least we're hearing more about Dark Matter than we did with Dance 
    Green Day sold 39,000 units in its first week. The 49,000 is the total number of equivalent units when streaming is factored in.

    I expect Dark Matter to sell a comparable number of units to Saviors, but get streamed a little bit less often. In 2020, Gigaton sold 57,000 units and had only 5,000 additional equivalent units.
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  • igotid88
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    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    It will have to beat the 49,000 Green Day sold its first week. And Green Day promotes. And are probably more popular. At least we're hearing more about Dark Matter than we did with Dance 
    Green Day sold 39,000 units in its first week. The 49,000 is the total number of equivalent units when streaming is factored in.

    I expect Dark Matter to sell a comparable number of units to Saviors, but get streamed a little bit less often. In 2020, Gigaton sold 57,000 units and had only 5,000 additional equivalent units.
    Yes. I was counting everything. #4 debut on the Billboard 200
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  • igotid88
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    demetrios said:
    igotid88 said:
    It will have to beat the 49,000 Green Day sold its first week. And Green Day promotes. And are probably more popular. At least we're hearing more about Dark Matter than we did with Dance 

    Oh it would be so sweet if Pearl Jam went live on SiriusXM Pearl Jam Radio day's before the album release for a wicked jam. That would get some promotion hits.
    While that would be nice it won't reach the casual fan. 
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  • demetrios
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    igotid88 said:
    demetrios said:
    igotid88 said:
    It will have to beat the 49,000 Green Day sold its first week. And Green Day promotes. And are probably more popular. At least we're hearing more about Dark Matter than we did with Dance 

    Oh it would be so sweet if Pearl Jam went live on SiriusXM Pearl Jam Radio day's before the album release for a wicked jam. That would get some promotion hits.
    While that would be nice it won't reach the casual fan. 

    Gotcha.
  • igotid88
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    edited February 2024
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,681
    edited February 2024
    Dark Matter single Billboard
    Alternative Airplay #18
    Hot Rock Digital Song Sales #2
    Hot Hard Rock Songs #3
    Alternative Digital Song Sales #4
    Rock Digital Song Sales #8
    Rock & Alternative Airplay #6
    Mainstream Rock Airplay #17
    Hot Rock and Alternative Songs #46

    Not sure what days they start counting. Since this came out on a Tuesday and not on Friday when most new singles come out.
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:
    Dark Matter single Billboard
    Alternative Airplay #18
    Hot Rock Digital Song Sales #2
    Hot Hard Rock Songs #3
    Alternative Digital Song Sales #4
    Rock Digital Song Sales #8
    Rock & Alternative Airplay #6
    Mainstream Rock Airplay #17
    Hot Rock and Alternative Songs #46

    Not sure what days they start counting. Since this came out on a Tuesday and not on Friday when most new singles come out.
    I started a separate thread on this yesterday. I actually made a joke in a different thread about the fact that it had been 24 hours and you hadn't replied to it yet.
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  • igotid88
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    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Dark Matter single Billboard
    Alternative Airplay #18
    Hot Rock Digital Song Sales #2
    Hot Hard Rock Songs #3
    Alternative Digital Song Sales #4
    Rock Digital Song Sales #8
    Rock & Alternative Airplay #6
    Mainstream Rock Airplay #17
    Hot Rock and Alternative Songs #46

    Not sure what days they start counting. Since this came out on a Tuesday and not on Friday when most new singles come out.
    I started a separate thread on this yesterday. I actually made a joke in a different thread about the fact that it had been 24 hours and you hadn't replied to it yet.
    I'm used to it coming out on Thursday. Forgot it comes on Wednesday now
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  • BF25394
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    I get it on Tuesdays. It was delayed until Wednesday this week because of the federal holiday on Monday. I'll update the other thread each Tuesday.
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  • igotid88
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    edited February 2024
    igotid88 said:
    Dark Matter single Billboard
    Alternative Airplay #18
    Hot Rock Digital Song Sales #2
    Hot Hard Rock Songs #3
    Alternative Digital Song Sales #4
    Rock Digital Song Sales #8
    Rock & Alternative Airplay #6
    Mainstream Rock Airplay #17
    Hot Rock and Alternative Songs #46

    Not sure what days they start counting. Since this came out on a Tuesday and not on Friday when most new singles come out.
    To compare with DOTC first week on the char
    Dance of the Clairvoyants debuts on the Billboard charts
    It debuted on a Wednesday
    Hot Rock Songs #7
    Rock Airplay #9
    Rock Digital Single Sales #2
    Mainstream Rock Songs #24
    Alternative Songs #27
    Triple A #24
    Lyricfind.us #7

    Some of these categories they merged or got rid of
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  • igotid88
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    Superbowl didn't help Usher that much. Kanye outsold/streamed him. Sucks that Kanye will probably outsell/stream in his 10th week than Dark Matter will in its 1st
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:
    Superbowl didn't help Usher that much. Kanye outsold/streamed him. Sucks that Kanye will probably outsell/stream in his 10th week than Dark Matter will in its 1st
    Kanye will definitely outstream them in his Week 10/their Week 1, but he won't outsell them. But don't worry about him being No. 1 in Week 10. Taylor will take care of that. And Ariana Grande and Beyonce will also have recent releases that should be outperforming Kanye at that point.

    The question is what would Usher have sold but for that giant commercial watched by over 100 million Americans. You know I don't put much stock in televised performances to move the needle very much, but the Super Bowl Halftime Show is the exception.
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  • igotid88
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    https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/pearl-jam-dark-matter-number-1-rock-alternative-airplay-chart-1235613849/

    In addition to its airplay, the song drew 946,000 official U.S. streams and sold 1,000 downloads Feb. 9-15
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  • BF25394
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    That's good. That means it picked up airplay, although it's worth noting that the tracking week goes from Friday through Thursday, so the first week only counted three days and the second week is counting seven days. Still, this means the song is drawing a positive listener response at radio.

    Or it could just be that you're calling every rock station in the country every two hours to request it...
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  • igotid88
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    BF25394 said:
    That's good. That means it picked up airplay, although it's worth noting that the tracking week goes from Friday through Thursday, so the first week only counted three days and the second week is counting seven days. Still, this means the song is drawing a positive listener response at radio.

    Or it could just be that you're calling every rock station in the country every two hours to request it...
    I wish that worked
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    That's good. That means it picked up airplay, although it's worth noting that the tracking week goes from Friday through Thursday, so the first week only counted three days and the second week is counting seven days. Still, this means the song is drawing a positive listener response at radio.

    Or it could just be that you're calling every rock station in the country every two hours to request it...
    I wish that worked
    They would definitely be responsive to a genuine wave of listener response, but not so much if it's just you doing different voices every time you call.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,681
    I forgot how many paid and free streams count as 1 equivalent. I think it was 150 for paid and 375 for unpaid. Let's just say for example all 946,000 were from paid streams. That's just over 6k equivalent 
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