End of the American Republic?

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,439
    😂😂 it hasn’t even been a month and the democracy of this nation is basically done! 3+ years of this and it will be a slave state with the upper class living great and the rest of the population eating the crumbs that fall of their tables! 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    😂😂 it hasn’t even been a month and the democracy of this nation is basically done! 3+ years of this and it will be a slave state with the upper class living great and the rest of the population eating the crumbs that fall of their tables! 

    you day that last part like this is new and hasnt been in play since the founding.
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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,124
    😂😂 it hasn’t even been a month and the democracy of this nation is basically done! 3+ years of this and it will be a slave state with the upper class living great and the rest of the population eating the crumbs that fall of their tables! 

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,439
    mickeyrat said:
    😂😂 it hasn’t even been a month and the democracy of this nation is basically done! 3+ years of this and it will be a slave state with the upper class living great and the rest of the population eating the crumbs that fall of their tables! 

    you day that last part like this is new and hasnt been in play since the founding.
    I didn’t say this is all new merely that the fragile state of this democracy is being dismantled faster than anyone could’ve anticipated! 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,738
    Time for Sweden to reign supreme


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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,124

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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Time for Sweden to reign supreme


    Time to take Sweden, too. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    Bah, bah, bah Hillary’s emails! Yip, everything is completely normal. Happy days are here again with extra brilliance of brilliant brilliancy. From Letter From An American:

    In a shocking attack on the intelligence personnel who collect information around the world to keep Americans safe, today the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sent a list of all employees the agency hired in the past two years to the White House, sending the list by unclassified email. Hugo Lowell of The Guardian reported that a former CIA agent called the reporting of the names “a counterintelligence disaster.” Lowell also reported that Representative Jim Himes of Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement that he understands that the White House “insisted” on the list coming through unclassified email. 

    Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, posted: “Exposing the identities of officials who do extremely sensitive work would put a direct target on their backs for China. A disastrous national security development.”
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Bah, bah, bah Hillary’s emails! Yip, everything is completely normal. Happy days are here again with extra brilliance of brilliant brilliancy. From Letter From An American:

    In a shocking attack on the intelligence personnel who collect information around the world to keep Americans safe, today the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sent a list of all employees the agency hired in the past two years to the White House, sending the list by unclassified email. Hugo Lowell of The Guardian reported that a former CIA agent called the reporting of the names “a counterintelligence disaster.” Lowell also reported that Representative Jim Himes of Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement that he understands that the White House “insisted” on the list coming through unclassified email. 

    Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, posted: “Exposing the identities of officials who do extremely sensitive work would put a direct target on their backs for China. A disastrous national security development.”
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Good morning, beautiful Nation. 

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    battle1 said:
    Bah, bah, bah Hillary’s emails! Yip, everything is completely normal. Happy days are here again with extra brilliance of brilliant brilliancy. From Letter From An American:

    In a shocking attack on the intelligence personnel who collect information around the world to keep Americans safe, today the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sent a list of all employees the agency hired in the past two years to the White House, sending the list by unclassified email. Hugo Lowell of The Guardian reported that a former CIA agent called the reporting of the names “a counterintelligence disaster.” Lowell also reported that Representative Jim Himes of Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement that he understands that the White House “insisted” on the list coming through unclassified email. 

    Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, posted: “Exposing the identities of officials who do extremely sensitive work would put a direct target on their backs for China. A disastrous national security development.”
    Heather Richardson Cox ‘28
    LOL. I trust you'll be here to dunk on everyone when Donald Trump Jr wins.
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    OnWis97 said:
    battle1 said:
    Bah, bah, bah Hillary’s emails! Yip, everything is completely normal. Happy days are here again with extra brilliance of brilliant brilliancy. From Letter From An American:

    In a shocking attack on the intelligence personnel who collect information around the world to keep Americans safe, today the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sent a list of all employees the agency hired in the past two years to the White House, sending the list by unclassified email. Hugo Lowell of The Guardian reported that a former CIA agent called the reporting of the names “a counterintelligence disaster.” Lowell also reported that Representative Jim Himes of Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement that he understands that the White House “insisted” on the list coming through unclassified email. 

    Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, posted: “Exposing the identities of officials who do extremely sensitive work would put a direct target on their backs for China. A disastrous national security development.”
    Heather Richardson Cox ‘28
    LOL. I trust you'll be here to dunk on everyone when Donald Trump Jr wins.
    If/when that happens, I may just become radicalized with the rest of AMT. For now, I’ll live. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
    Great interview here with Chris Hedges.  Highly recommended!

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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,124
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Good morning, America. 🇺🇸 Still standing at the top as always. 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    DE4173 said:
    Good grief, right? How pathetic can one party become? I’m embarrassed to say I vote with those people in your link. Sad and embarrassing. Democrats need to stop worrying about mean orange guy bad, and look in the mirror or they may never win another election. 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    edited February 7

    Out of respect for our great Nation, can we keep the fake news propaganda in the many other unnecessary threads and out of The Great American Republic thread? Conspiracy theory thread, I suppose? Just a polite suggestion. Be well, my fellow Americans. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    OnWis97 said:
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
    Exactly. So lets be better than that and not spread false information ourselves. 

    I don’t think elon musk has the nations best interest in mind, I don’t think anything about him honestly. Hes always been a total piece of shit in my eyes. Having said that,  Im not afraid of him taking over our government because some radicals say he is. Thats the nonsense I can’t subscribe to. And the nonsense fearmongering needs to stop. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    Normalization has occurred.
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    OnWis97 said:
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
    Judge Paul Engelmayer has the nations best interest in mind though. All the rage for nothing. 

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    You really think that ended the coup?  That’s kind adorable.
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    OnWis97 said:
    You really think that ended the coup?  That’s kind adorable.
    The coup… hahahahah
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    battle1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
     Im not afraid of him taking over our government because some radicals say he is. Thats the nonsense I can’t subscribe to. And the nonsense fearmongering needs to stop. 
    So to be clear, you think what he is doing is normal and fine?
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    battle1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
     Im not afraid of him taking over our government because some radicals say he is. Thats the nonsense I can’t subscribe to. And the nonsense fearmongering needs to stop. 
    So to be clear, you think what he is doing is normal and fine?
    Is that what you clearly gather from my stance? Give me a break Tim Simmons. I dont care what hes doing because its all a bunch of bullshit. As stated in the post you quoted, all you radicals cried about something that is nonsense and I don’t subscribe to. You drank the Liberal Kool Aid. Again. Hail Judge Paul Engelmayer. 

    Checks and balances folks. Put down the Kool Aid and figure it out. 

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,219
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    There's an astonishing amount of smoke around for some people to declare that there's no fire. There's been an astonishing amount of devaluing or ignoring norms. Also an astonishing amount of devaluing or ignoring the law. 

    Even if one doesn't believe the above, a functional democracy must have an informed (and educated) population to make it better (or at least survive). Anyone who criticizes speaking up, should shove it and remind themselves what democracy actually means. 
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