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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    benjs said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    There's an astonishing amount of smoke around for some people to declare that there's no fire. There's been an astonishing amount of devaluing or ignoring norms. Also an astonishing amount of devaluing or ignoring the law. 

    Even if one doesn't believe the above, a functional democracy must have an informed (and educated) population to make it better (or at least survive). Anyone who criticizes speaking up, should shove it and remind themselves what democracy actually means. 
    They can attempt to start all the fires they want, to use your analogy. And those fires will be extinguished through the checks and balances established since the beginning of our time. The first time our system actually fails we can talk. I don’t pay attention to rhetoric. 

    The claims around here are not “speaking up”. If you read A Moving Trainwreck and didn’t know any better you would already believe the American Republic has been overthrown. Which is about the funniest crock of shit I have ever seen. By all means protest, I am wondering myself where the masses are? If all of this is happening where are all the people speaking out? No one is protesting. I personally don’t, I focus on myself and my family/friends. But I would appreciate seeing all these keyboard warriors get out there and be heard. After all, our country is being taken, right?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    battle1 said:j
    Tim Simmons said:
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Tim Simmons said:
    battle1 said:j
    Tim Simmons said:
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    Well, for as long as we have them


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,879
    move to Canada. 

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,167
    battle1 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    battle1 said:j
    Tim Simmons said:
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS
    does palpable fear include wanting to "throat punch" our duly elected president?
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Gern Blansten said:
    battle1 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    battle1 said:j
    Tim Simmons said:
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS
    does palpable fear include wanting to "throat punch" our duly elected president?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    Well, I’m imagining that some women in certain states, as well as members of the LGBTQ+ and minority communities are living with “palatable fear.” Fuck those people, like the tomorrow people at the Gorge in 2006, eh? I’m guessing the “what me, worry?” Guy is a white male? Just a guess.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    Tim Simmons said:
    Well, for as long as we have them



    except its not within the executive to make arbitrary cuts , that comes from congress. Vance's ears were still wet or he would have known that.....

    and yes Judges are in fact allowed to check a president.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    lets hope its just him being an idiot and not the breadcrumbs to something worse.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
    OnWis97 said:
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
    Can anyone legitimately are otherwise?  To do so would be like saying the Eagles are actually NOT winning at half time 24 to zip. 

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    move to Canada. 

    May be an image of 1 person map and text that says Tomi Lahren TomiLahren Can you think of a Canadian product thats better than an American one Honestly curious Matt McManus MattPolProf Life Life expectancy 1950 to 2021 LINEAR LOG Our urWorld inData Add country 82 years Canada 80 years 78 years 76 76years United dStates 74years 74 72 years 70 70years 1950 1970 1990 2021 L201Rikev20 heoimiagakcommciataa yearsa wWwlrDsaorgliltcgprtmyaCCl

    If only! 
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