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            For those of you who haven’t watched Netflix’s The Hunt for Bid Laden, there is a scene where they interview a CIA analyst involved and she says, paraphrasing, “you have to ask yourself whether you can ‘kill’ your way out of it. Invariably the answer is no.”
 So, can Israel and now the US “kill their way out of it?”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 NoHalifax2TheMax said:For those of you who haven’t watched Netflix’s The Hunt for Bid Laden, there is a scene where they interview a CIA analyst involved and she says, paraphrasing, “you have to ask yourself whether you can ‘kill’ your way out of it. Invariably the answer is no.”
 So, can Israel and now the US “kill their way out of it?”0
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 Exactly.gotthebottle said:
 NoHalifax2TheMax said:For those of you who haven’t watched Netflix’s The Hunt for Bid Laden, there is a scene where they interview a CIA analyst involved and she says, paraphrasing, “you have to ask yourself whether you can ‘kill’ your way out of it. Invariably the answer is no.”
 So, can Israel and now the US “kill their way out of it?”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 Thanks, I guess I won't. Everybody should be pissed!darwinstheory said:
 Nope. You ain't wrong, do not apologize Brian.brianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?
 The damn fools.OnWis97 said:I vOtED FoR TrUmp to AvOid WoRld wAR IiI.gotthebottle said:
 It's appropriate.. no more tip-toeing around it. He has unilaterally decided... violated Constitution AGAIN... we are fuckedbrianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?
 Yeah, it sure feels like we're fucked. The question is, will congress intervene? They've gone along with all the bullshit thus far, so I doubt it."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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            In a matter of weeks, maybe days, the GOP has done a 180 on pro/anti war.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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 Why would we expect them to grow a pair now.brianlux said:
 Thanks, I guess I won't. Everybody should be pissed!darwinstheory said:
 Nope. You ain't wrong, do not apologize Brian.brianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?
 The damn fools.OnWis97 said:I vOtED FoR TrUmp to AvOid WoRld wAR IiI.gotthebottle said:
 It's appropriate.. no more tip-toeing around it. He has unilaterally decided... violated Constitution AGAIN... we are fuckedbrianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?
 Yeah, it sure feels like we're fucked. The question is, will congress intervene? They've gone along with all the bullshit thus far, so I doubt it.0
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            The overreactions remind me of when Russia invaded Ukraine, and you all claimed we were entering WW3, and Russia would start a nuclear war. Cool your jets and get a good night's sleep. This won't go as you all fear. It never does.1996: 9/29 Randall's Island 2, 10/1 Buffalo 2000: 8/27 Saratoga Springs
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            gotthebottle said:
 Why would we expect them to grow a pair now.brianlux said:
 Thanks, I guess I won't. Everybody should be pissed!darwinstheory said:
 Nope. You ain't wrong, do not apologize Brian.brianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?
 The damn fools.OnWis97 said:I vOtED FoR TrUmp to AvOid WoRld wAR IiI.gotthebottle said:
 It's appropriate.. no more tip-toeing around it. He has unilaterally decided... violated Constitution AGAIN... we are fuckedbrianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?
 Yeah, it sure feels like we're fucked. The question is, will congress intervene? They've gone along with all the bullshit thus far, so I doubt it.
 Your right, it ain't gonna happen."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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            Halifax2TheMax said:For those of you who haven’t watched Netflix’s The Hunt for Bid Laden, there is a scene where they interview a CIA analyst involved and she says, paraphrasing, “you have to ask yourself whether you can ‘kill’ your way out of it. Invariably the answer is no.”
 So, can Israel and now the US “kill their way out of it?”
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            So upside, young white men may now have a good job opportunity.0
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 Oh I don't know, something in the far reaches of my mind keep mumbling Iraq something something. That didn't go anywhere though, never does.seanwon said:The overreactions remind me of when Russia invaded Ukraine, and you all claimed we were entering WW3, and Russia would start a nuclear war. Cool your jets and get a good night's sleep. This won't go as you all fear. It never does.
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 I heard repeatedly during the campaign last year that, when Trump was president, "there were no wars." This was hilariously false. Aside from the fact that there were several wars being fought around the world when Trump was president, the United States was at war in Afghanistan for the entire length of Trump's first term.OnWis97 said:In a matter of weeks, maybe days, the GOP has done a 180 on pro/anti war.
 So they'll probably just claim this isn't a war.
 Once again, as they have done for Democratic and Republican presidents alike for the past eighty years, Congress has completely abdicated its responsibility to declare war.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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 Oh I don't know, something in the far reaches of my mind keep mumbling Iraq something something. That didn't go anywhere though, never does.seanwon said:The overreactions remind me of when Russia invaded Ukraine, and you all claimed we were entering WW3, and Russia would start a nuclear war. Cool your jets and get a good night's sleep. This won't go as you all fear. It never does.Nope, you're right, T, that little skirmish didn't go anywhere.Oh, and seanwon, as you probably also already know, thousands of guys and their buddies weren't killed or maimed or suffered with PTSD or eventually took their lives as a result of what they went through over in Iraq. Hell no, of course none of that stuff happened. "It never does."Oh, except maybe my very close family member who died by suicide as a result of that mess. He was buried yesterday.
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 You have faith in this? Catch JD Byryder’s, Little Marco Rube’s and Pig Seth’s facial expressions as COOTWH’s adderal induced blabber pours forth. You have faith in this? And if you haven’t, catch Bibi’s taint licking. Boy, to be played like that. So easy.seanwon said:The overreactions remind me of when Russia invaded Ukraine, and you all claimed we were entering WW3, and Russia would start a nuclear war. Cool your jets and get a good night's sleep. This won't go as you all fear. It never does.
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 He wants the war to get a third termbrianlux said:mickeyrat said:Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-launch-new-attacks-after-tehran-rules-out-nuclear-talks-2025-06-21/Another goddamned useless fucking war. Excuse my language, but for god's sake, where does the insanity end? Nuclearfucking holocaust?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            Overhearing two different conversations at the hotel breakfast talking about what a shit country the US is while news of bombings being aired on the TV.
 Have to let then know the boards ToS regarding critizing the US 😅
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