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Hahaha electing Donald Trump because liberals have compassion for the plight of the Palestinian people. Only a real fucktard would do that. Most indies probably don't even care about Israel/Palestine any more than any other pointlessly violent conflict going on in the world. Certainly not enough to decide to vote for Donald Trump even though Biden has been supporting almost every atrocity Israel has been committing and only disparaging the hamas atrocities. You aren't even making a point. Pretty clear that you are letting your emotions get in your way here.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
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Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
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Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.Scio me nihil scire
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Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:Scio me nihil scire
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Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly.0 -
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Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly.
2.2 million did that?
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No, it was the 3,195 children thus far with more to be held accountable.mickeyrat said:Lerxst1992 said:static111 said:
Ask Lerxst?Halifax2TheMax said:
Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly.
2.2 million did that?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I protested both of our revenge follies. Yeah 9/11 was bad but Iraq and Afghanistan didn't deserve what they got just like Palestine doesn't deserve what they are getting because of Hamas. Your logic says it would be OK to bomb all of America in order to get rid of mass shooting. Crazy talk.Lerxst1992 said:static111 said:
Ask Lerxst?Halifax2TheMax said:
Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly.Scio me nihil scire
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They’re not supposed to know. This is a deliberate tactic to cover up and prevent the mass atrocities against non-combatant Palestinians from being broadcast in real time. Bibi and his apartheid state have unleashed the Zionist holocaust. Just wait.mickeyrat said:
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news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
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Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
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Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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nobody here is saying what hamas did is NOT terrorism. stop putting words in everyone's mouths. what you are doing is blaming all palestinians for hamas' actions, and justifying israel's overwhelming response targeting civilians. this is the same thing the US did with afghanistan and then pivoting to iraq. 19 people carried out 9/11 and because of that we killed nearly 1 million iraqis. did you support that too?Lerxst1992 said:static111 said:
Ask Lerxst?Halifax2TheMax said:
Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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but most of the world is blindly pro israel in this situation, so it doesn't matter if the world is watching or not. israel is basically a rogue state at this point. it has already hit targets in other countries as well, with backing from the us.Halifax2TheMax said:
They’re not supposed to know. This is a deliberate tactic to cover up and prevent the mass atrocities against non-combatant Palestinians from being broadcast in real time. Bibi and his apartheid state have unleashed the Zionist holocaust. Just wait.mickeyrat said:
The world is watching."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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He will if people like Lerxst vote for him to continue the unwavering support of wholesale slaughter of Gazans.gimmesometruth27 said:
news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
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Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
___
Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:
He will if people like Lerxst vote for him to continue the unwavering support of wholesale slaughter of Gazans.gimmesometruth27 said:
news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
___
Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
___
Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.
Part of me thinks there is no way Trump will get elected as president again and part of me is concerned that it might happen, but as hard as it is to fathom, he is, after all, leading the GOP pack at this early stage. I hope gimme is right- I'd really really really like to be confident that he is right
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gimmesometruth27 said:
nobody here is saying what hamas did is NOT terrorism. stop putting words in everyone's mouths. what you are doing is blaming all palestinians for hamas' actions, and justifying israel's overwhelming response targeting civilians. this is the same thing the US did with afghanistan and then pivoting to iraq. 19 people carried out 9/11 and because of that we killed nearly 1 million iraqis. did you support that too?Lerxst1992 said:static111 said:
Ask Lerxst?Halifax2TheMax said:
Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly.
AND most of those 19 were Saudi....
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yep, i forgot to add that part. we did nothing to the saudis after 9/11 even though we knew they were saudi nationals.mickeyrat said:gimmesometruth27 said:
nobody here is saying what hamas did is NOT terrorism. stop putting words in everyone's mouths. what you are doing is blaming all palestinians for hamas' actions, and justifying israel's overwhelming response targeting civilians. this is the same thing the US did with afghanistan and then pivoting to iraq. 19 people carried out 9/11 and because of that we killed nearly 1 million iraqis. did you support that too?Lerxst1992 said:static111 said:
Ask Lerxst?Halifax2TheMax said:
Moral superiority, eh?mickeyrat said:One simple inescapable truth the one way the devastating horror pictured above doesn’t happen. That’s if all Palestinians recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace Oct 7.Did you also support the 9/11 terrorists? I was on Manhattan island 8.46am on 9/11. Please don’t lecture me that Oct 7th wasn’t cold blooded terrorism targeting women, children and the elderly.
AND most of those 19 were Saudi....
by lerxs' rationale and what he has said about the israel/hamas conflict, we should have flattened saudi arabia based on the actions of 19 people.Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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trump cannot win the popular vote, so he has to win the electoral vote in a small number of states. he will not have the popular turnout to swing those elections because he has not gained voters. he has lost millions of supporters. his hardcore supporters are old people that are dying off. the gop is not raising younger generations of voters, the younger voters are more liberal, so they would never vote gop. the gop is a dying party. they gave their party to trump, and he has driven it into the ground, like every single facet of all of his businesses. unless there is huge electoral interference, trump will never be president again. he cannot win it legitimately.brianlux said:static111 said:
He will if people like Lerxst vote for him to continue the unwavering support of wholesale slaughter of Gazans.gimmesometruth27 said:
news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
___
Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
___
Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.
Part of me thinks there is no way Trump will get elected as president again and part of me is concerned that it might happen, but as hard as it is to fathom, he is, after all, leading the GOP pack at this early stage. I hope gimme is right- I'd really really really like to be confident that he is right"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:
trump cannot win the popular vote, so he has to win the electoral vote in a small number of states. he will not have the popular turnout to swing those elections because he has not gained voters. he has lost millions of supporters. his hardcore supporters are old people that are dying off. the gop is not raising younger generations of voters, the younger voters are more liberal, so they would never vote gop. the gop is a dying party. they gave their party to trump, and he has driven it into the ground, like every single facet of all of his businesses. unless there is huge electoral interference, trump will never be president again. he cannot win it legitimately.brianlux said:static111 said:
He will if people like Lerxst vote for him to continue the unwavering support of wholesale slaughter of Gazans.gimmesometruth27 said:
news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
___
Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
___
Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.
Part of me thinks there is no way Trump will get elected as president again and part of me is concerned that it might happen, but as hard as it is to fathom, he is, after all, leading the GOP pack at this early stage. I hope gimme is right- I'd really really really like to be confident that he is right
All sounds good to me, thanks. I guess I have to stop reading things that get me paranoid else-wise!
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That younger voter argument was first made with Obama in 2008. Voters 20 years old then will be 36 for this election. That’s a huge swath of the electorate, yet trump is polling as good as anyone else. He can’t win it legitimately? I wish the pollsters agreedbrianlux said:gimmesometruth27 said:
trump cannot win the popular vote, so he has to win the electoral vote in a small number of states. he will not have the popular turnout to swing those elections because he has not gained voters. he has lost millions of supporters. his hardcore supporters are old people that are dying off. the gop is not raising younger generations of voters, the younger voters are more liberal, so they would never vote gop. the gop is a dying party. they gave their party to trump, and he has driven it into the ground, like every single facet of all of his businesses. unless there is huge electoral interference, trump will never be president again. he cannot win it legitimately.brianlux said:static111 said:
He will if people like Lerxst vote for him to continue the unwavering support of wholesale slaughter of Gazans.gimmesometruth27 said:
news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
___
Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
___
Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.
Part of me thinks there is no way Trump will get elected as president again and part of me is concerned that it might happen, but as hard as it is to fathom, he is, after all, leading the GOP pack at this early stage. I hope gimme is right- I'd really really really like to be confident that he is right
All sounds good to me, thanks. I guess I have to stop reading things that get me paranoid else-wise!
Don’t like national polls? Hers a bunch of swing state polls with Biden ahead in one
20 house Dems now support cease fire, Keep supporting Hamas, like somehow that will end the horrible killing of civilians. No, supporting Hamas will split the Dems and get trump elected. Why isn’t the world demanding hamas to immediate surrender?If the world community wanted peace and to spare lives, everyone would demand the immediate surrender of Hamas. They started this war.0 -
Hamas doesn’t care if the world burns down to the ground!Lerxst1992 said:
That younger voter argument was first made with Obama in 2008. Voters 20 years old then will be 36 for this election. That’s a huge swath of the electorate, yet trump is polling as good as anyone else. He can’t win it legitimately? I wish the pollsters agreedbrianlux said:gimmesometruth27 said:
trump cannot win the popular vote, so he has to win the electoral vote in a small number of states. he will not have the popular turnout to swing those elections because he has not gained voters. he has lost millions of supporters. his hardcore supporters are old people that are dying off. the gop is not raising younger generations of voters, the younger voters are more liberal, so they would never vote gop. the gop is a dying party. they gave their party to trump, and he has driven it into the ground, like every single facet of all of his businesses. unless there is huge electoral interference, trump will never be president again. he cannot win it legitimately.brianlux said:static111 said:
He will if people like Lerxst vote for him to continue the unwavering support of wholesale slaughter of Gazans.gimmesometruth27 said:
news flash. trump will never be president again. wake up.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is that the best ya got? threatening a return of president trump? lol.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Just Israel defending itself.mickeyrat said:Israel: "Move south to safety.NOW!!!"also Israel : go ahead and commence bombing the south.https://apnews.com/article/northern-gaza-palestinians-israel-hamas-war-36109635f7bc90f403f0383d53a352e9 Fearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersFearing airstrikes and crowded shelters, Palestinians in north Gaza defy Israeli evacuation ordersBy SAMY MAGDY and WAFAA SHURAFATodayDEIR AL BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Mahmoud Shalabi did not evacuate his home in northern Gaza despite the frightful Israeli warnings of a looming, far more brutal assault to come as it presses ahead with its war against the Hamas militant group.
The Palestinian aid worker is among hundreds of thousands who have remained. Others who initially heeded the Israeli warnings to head south have returned to the territory's north, where Israel says it considers all those who stay possible “accomplices” of Hamas.
Shalabi said leaving his home in Beit Lahia didn’t make sense considering the relentless bombardment of southern Gaza, where Israel has repeatedly urged the more than 1 million northern residents like him to seek refuge. The overcrowded shelters and shortages of water and food in the south played a part in their decisions, said Shalabi and others who remained.
Risk death at home, or elsewhere in Gaza, they said.
Leaving would be reasonable only if Israel stopped targeting the south, said Shalabi, who works for Medical Aid for Palestinians, a U.K.-based charity providing health services. “It doesn’t make sense to me that I should leave my home to go and get killed in a tent in the south of Gaza,” he said.
The risks for those staying in the north are likely to rise exponentially in the event of an expected Israeli ground offensive, after two-and-a-half weeks of heavy bombardments have already claimed more than 6,500 lives in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry.
With tens of thousands of troops massed along Israel's border with Gaza, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday Israel was preparing for a ground incursion. He refused to say when it would begin.
Israeli military officials have said they are determined to crush Hamas in response to its brutal Oct. 7 attack on Israeli border communities, and the focus will be on the north, including Gaza City, where Israel says key Hamas assets, tunnels and bunkers are located.
Some 350,000 Palestinians are still in northern Gaza, according to Israeli estimates. Military officials have repeatedly exhorted Palestinians to move south, but have not said whether the presence of a large number of civilians would be a factor in deciding whether to send in tanks and ground troops.
Israel says it seeks to strike Hamas and doesn't target civilians, but Gaza health officials say many of those killed have been women and children. Those numbers are expected to climb with a ground offensive, which would likely see fierce fighting inside crowded urban areas.
International rights groups have sharply criticized the Israeli evacuation orders, saying they cannot be considered effective warning to civilians, under the rules of international law, because of a lack of realistic options for those fleeing.
“When the evacuation routes are bombed, when people north as well as south are caught up in hostilities, when the essentials for survival are lacking, and when there are no assurances for return, people are left with nothing but impossible choices,” said Lynn Hastings, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories. “Nowhere is safe in Gaza.”
Those staying put in the north are bracing for worse to come. They live among the ruins of once bustling neighborhoods while facing dire shortages of fuel, food and water amid looming hospital shutdowns.
Services in the north have deteriorated since Israel’s evacuation order prompted at least 700,000 Palestinians to flee south. Most homes have no electricity, water or fuel.
More than 1.4 million Gaza residents are now displaced across the narrow strip, out of a population of 2.3 million, and U.N. shelters are packed at triple their capacity, U.N. agencies say.
In the north, entire neighborhoods have been reduced to rubble.
"Everywhere there is debris, there are destroyed cars, there are destroyed houses. And it’s really difficult to get from one location to the other because there is no fuel,” Shalabi said.
He said he walked for two hours to find a bakery still selling bread to feed his family of 10. Shop shelves are empty; residents are living on canned beans, pineapple, corn.
The little fuel still available, often from private stockpiles, is sold for exorbitant prices. Some rent out small water pump motors, demanding 50 shekels ($12) an hour, a huge amount for the average Gaza resident.
This week Shalabi ran out of cash, and scoured the blocks of dilapidated streets to find a functioning ATM. There were none.
About 50,000 people are sheltering on the grounds of Shifa Hospital, Gaza's largest, in Gaza City. It is overwhelmed by a steady stream of wounded from airstrikes amid warnings that severe shortages of fuel, needed to power generators, could trigger a shutdown. No new fuel has been allowed into Gaza since the Oct. 7 raid.
Still, many Palestinians are choosing to return north, tired of moving from place-to-place under Israeli fire as shelters become overcrowded and unlivable. U.N. monitors estimate 30,000 have returned.
Ekhlas Ahmed, 24 and eight-months pregnant, was among them.
A week ago, she fled Gaza City after repeated Israeli warnings to move south. She returned after the home she was sheltering in along with 14 other family members in the south was hit by an Israeli airstrike.
“It was a residential building and they bombed it,” she said.
Ahmed, who has a 4-year-old son, is hoping for a ceasefire.
“I am very frightened. All of us are frightened,” she said.
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Magdy reported from Cairo. Associated Press writer Jack Jeffrey in Cairo contributed to this report.
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Find more of AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
Because Hamas of course didn’t follow the civilians to hide with them and under them.
Keep it up, you must really want president trump back next year.I wouldn’t laugh, he’s got yer electoral votes no problem. You really think Biden can take the swing states with liberals running around supporting the most extreme of Arab people? So extreme Egypt and Jordan don’t want their refugees? Keep laughing.
Part of me thinks there is no way Trump will get elected as president again and part of me is concerned that it might happen, but as hard as it is to fathom, he is, after all, leading the GOP pack at this early stage. I hope gimme is right- I'd really really really like to be confident that he is right
All sounds good to me, thanks. I guess I have to stop reading things that get me paranoid else-wise!Don’t like national polls? Hers a bunch of swing state polls with Biden ahead in one20 house Dems now support cease fire, Keep supporting Hamas, like somehow that will end the horrible killing of civilians. No, supporting Hamas will split the Dems and get trump elected. Why isn’t the world demanding hamas to immediate surrender?If the world community wanted peace and to spare lives, everyone would demand the immediate surrender of Hamas. They started this war.
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