BIDEN, afraid of losing the election, SAYS "BUILD THE WALL!"

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,855
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I cut my own lawn and clean my own house.  Stereotype much? I doubt illegals serve my food and cook my pizza as often as you describe. Immigrants can stay all they want, of course. However, there is a difference between a legal immigrant and filthy illegals. 
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  • josevolution
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    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I cut my own lawn and clean my own house.  Stereotype much? I doubt illegals serve my food and cook my pizza as often as you describe. Immigrants can stay all they want, of course. However, there is a difference between a legal immigrant and filthy illegals. 
    Filthy illegals is all I need to know about you! Have a safe weekend 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,124
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,389
    edited October 2023
    LBCeddie said:
    benjs said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I cut my own lawn and clean my own house.  Stereotype much? I doubt illegals serve my food and cook my pizza as often as you describe. Immigrants can stay all they want, of course. However, there is a difference between a legal immigrant and filthy illegals. 
    Just quoting this so your words are on the record.  
    Thank you!  I don't ever want to forget that I do not support illegal immigrants in the US.  Go figure.  
    And that you use words like filthy - you clearly think illegal immigrants are less worthy of being treated as humans than you do. I'd argue because they'd treat you like a human, and you'd treat them like an animal, that the opposite is true. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    holy shit. right out there in the open. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    edited October 2023
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
    Many times, yes.
    But why didn’t you ask Jose, he’s the one that brought it up?
    But you’ve hired someone to clean your house, mow your lawn, take your order, and never spoke to them?
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • eddiec
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    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I cut my own lawn and clean my own house.  Stereotype much? I doubt illegals serve my food and cook my pizza as often as you describe. Immigrants can stay all they want, of course. However, there is a difference between a legal immigrant and filthy illegals. 
    I worked in the NYC restaurant/bar scene for years. I knew loads of Irish people who were there illegally. Would you call them filthy or do you reserve that term for people that come from south of the border?

    I also knew a lot of Mexicans who were there illegally. It's a tough life. They cram together in small apartments, work 12 hour shifts 6-7 days a week and send a lot of their money back to their families. Many of them are completely selfless. One guy was the porter in the bar I worked. His mother died and he couldn't go home for the funeral. The money he was sending back was too important to his family to risk not being able to get back into the country.

    Regardless of your feelings toward illegal immigration, please don't dehumanize them.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818

    America's going to elect a fascist next year based on this issue alone. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,742
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
    Many times, yes.
    But why didn’t you ask Jose, he’s the one that brought it up?
    But you’ve hired someone to clean your house, mow your lawn, take your order, and never spoke to them?
    I speak to immigrants all the time the man who delivered this wood this weekend is an immigrant I spoke to him extensively about his life here in America! Hard working law abiding man works all week multiple jobs from
    lands tree work construction! 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited October 2023
    When having these conversations w/ immigrants, how do people know who is & isn't legal? 

    Honor system? Do you check papers? 

    How does one determine whether or not the person they are speaking w/ is "filthy"? 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,682
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  

    Hers a FACT. It DOES NOT matter how someone crossed if they claim Asylum. Period. If they claim asylum then they are in fact in the legal process.
    Suggest a little cruise thought he U.S. State Dept website.
    Oh side note, "illegals" wouldn't be here if business didn't exploit their labor.....
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
    Many times, yes.
    But why didn’t you ask Jose, he’s the one that brought it up?
    But you’ve hired someone to clean your house, mow your lawn, take your order, and never spoke to them?
    I speak to immigrants all the time the man who delivered this wood this weekend is an immigrant I spoke to him extensively about his life here in America! Hard working law abiding man works all week multiple jobs from
    lands tree work construction! 
    I agree. I don't know why anyone would think it's hard to tell. If I'm interacting with someone and they have a southern accent here in the south, I'm pretty sure they themselves aren't immigrants. If they do have an accent, it's not uncommon to ask where they are from, how they like it here, etc. Especially if I just hired them to do yard work or clean the house or deliver firewood.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,124
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
    Many times, yes.
    But why didn’t you ask Jose, he’s the one that brought it up?
    But you’ve hired someone to clean your house, mow your lawn, take your order, and never spoke to them?
    Never hired anyone to mow our lawn when we didn't live in an apartment, never hired anyone to clean any apartment or rental home etc...Would be nice to have that kind of dough though.   As far as ordering food at a restaurant it is usually a thing like hey great service or how are you doing, some small talk, not where are you from are you an immigrant?

    At jobs I've worked at with people that looked different than me I never inquired about anyone's immigration or citizenship status, never really mattered, and really not a question I think it is my business to ask.

    Jose, to be fair since mace asked why I didn't ask you. how do you know the people doing those jobs are immigrants? They could well be citizens. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,124

    America's going to elect a fascist next year based on this issue alone. 
    I was told that we are going to elect a fascist because dems sympathize with Palestinians in Gaza  that are currently being steam rolled in a way Putin could only dream of doing to Ukraine, by one of the most advanced militaries in the world.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
    Many times, yes.
    But why didn’t you ask Jose, he’s the one that brought it up?
    But you’ve hired someone to clean your house, mow your lawn, take your order, and never spoke to them?
    Never hired anyone to mow our lawn when we didn't live in an apartment, never hired anyone to clean any apartment or rental home etc...Would be nice to have that kind of dough though.   As far as ordering food at a restaurant it is usually a thing like hey great service or how are you doing, some small talk, not where are you from are you an immigrant?

    At jobs I've worked at with people that looked different than me I never inquired about anyone's immigration or citizenship status, never really mattered, and really not a question I think it is my business to ask.

    Jose, to be fair since mace asked why I didn't ask you. how do you know the people doing those jobs are immigrants? They could well be citizens. 
    I've never paid anyone to mow my lawn either. But when we sold our house I hired some people to do basic landscaping for pictures and showings. Was well worth the investment.
    But when my wife was working full time, we'd have someone clean the house once a month. Just couldn't keep up with both of us working.

    You really don't know how someone can spot an immigrant? It really isn't that hard. You can hear accents very easily. You can't tell the difference from a native speaker and someone who was raised in Eastern Europe? You never been to an Asian restaurant and been able to hear the difference between the way the children speak who were raised here and the parents who were the ones who immigrated? It's not a flawless system, but I bet I am right far more often than I am wrong when just communicating with people.
    And, like Jose said, you're never friendly with strangers? You don't hear an accent on a waiter and ask him where he's from, what brought him here, what he likes? I do that all the time.
    Now, if I'm in the south and I hear a southern drawl, or in Minnesota and I hear that mid-west accent, I'm not going to ask if they're from around here. That's kinda easy to tell too. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited October 2023
    static111 said:

    America's going to elect a fascist next year based on this issue alone. 
    I was told that we are going to elect a fascist because dems sympathize with Palestinians in Gaza  that are currently being steam rolled in a way Putin could only dream of doing to Ukraine, by one of the most advanced militaries in the world.
    My statement is based on what I'm hearing and seeing in my day to day life... the amount of conversations that have steered towards 'illegal's' out of nowhere in recent months is increasing. & I get it, if I consumed right wing news non stop, it's probably all I would talk about too.  
    If the hatred and animosity wasn't so palpable it would be funny, because these are the same people who complain that no one wants to work anymore. Meanwhile, most immigrants I've ever worked with (whether documented or not) outwork pretty much every American on the job. (and I've worked with a LOT of immigrants over the years, mostly Irish and Brazilian) 
    The union for our plant workers has a rule where if the outside temperature hits 92 degrees, they can go home for the rest of the day. Pretty much 100% of the Americans bail on the remainder of the day and most if not all the Cape Verdeans stay and finish the day. Weird, huh? 

    To the people who support legal immigrants, but hate illegals... how can you tell who's who?

    How do you decide who to hate? 
  • josevolution
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    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    LBCeddie said:
    LBCeddie said:
    Hey maybe we need walls to protect us from the terrorist that are already here like the Maine dude shooting everyone up? 
    I would be more concerned with immigrants.  
    Off course you would specially since all they do is outwork American at every menial job you can name! That’s a fact but you just keep on being scared of the men/women with brown skins 
    Sorry, I'm missing your point here.  Scared?  I'm not scared of illegal immigrants.  They just shouldn't be here.  It is illegal.  Do you have sources for your facts?  So, is your point that you believe I am scared of illegals because they are brown and work hard?  For the record, no illegal will ever outwork me.  
    Yes I do have facts I see it every day here on Long Island! Tell me who waits on your table when you go out to eat who cuts the lawns who cuts the trees who makes your pizza who works construction sites who cleans the houses on& on and on! Immigrants are doing all the jobs that Americans no longer care to do, immigrants are not going anywhere they are here to stay get used to it! 
    I’ve lived in areas where immigrants (not necessarily illegal though) do much of those jobs. Not where I currently live though. But I don’t think Ives lived anywhere where they were the majority of the wait staff.
    How did you know they were immigrants? Did you strike up a conversation?
    Many times, yes.
    But why didn’t you ask Jose, he’s the one that brought it up?
    But you’ve hired someone to clean your house, mow your lawn, take your order, and never spoke to them?
    Never hired anyone to mow our lawn when we didn't live in an apartment, never hired anyone to clean any apartment or rental home etc...Would be nice to have that kind of dough though.   As far as ordering food at a restaurant it is usually a thing like hey great service or how are you doing, some small talk, not where are you from are you an immigrant?

    At jobs I've worked at with people that looked different than me I never inquired about anyone's immigration or citizenship status, never really mattered, and really not a question I think it is my business to ask.

    Jose, to be fair since mace asked why I didn't ask you. how do you know the people doing those jobs are immigrants? They could well be citizens. 
    I always open up conversations by telling them how I came here as an immigrant back in 71 I couldn’t get resident status till around 85 after that I became a citizen! I always ask them where they came from and usually I get around to asking what it took to get them to where they are now, very general though not to be prying plus I speak Spanish so it’s just a comfort thing. 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,644
    ironically we're the only species on the planet that isn't allowed to go wherever the hell we want. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.