Face Value Ticket Exchange (F2F)

HughFreakingDillon

Go Animal said:

We gotta do SOMETHING. Switch to DM's only for timed drops, maybe? Yeah, you might sit on your tickets you're trying to unload a day or two longer, but having these pop on the 'bay & SH/SG/Vivid is bullshit.

The only way to stop these dickheads (and if you're reading this, TicketClub = you ARE a dickhead & a coward), is to do it in secret.

that's what PJNB and I did. he got my STP2 GA that way. 

RatherStarved

I’ve made this comment before but the free shipping cracks me up every time.  

HughFreakingDillon

I don't get it. if it's F2F, how are these people sidestepping it and scalping?

SHZA

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't get it. if it's F2F, how are these people sidestepping it and scalping?

Here’s one method https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxjqz4/the-cure-tried-to-stop-scalpers-brokers-are-selling-entire-ticketmaster-accounts-instead

Sellers also may meet buyer at the venue and walk them in and the article alludes to possible technology to bypass the transfer restriction through a wallet transfer. 

Nildogg

They are doing it themselves with these prices….  “PJ Premium” 🤬

Go Animal

Nildogg said:

They are doing it themselves with these prices….  “PJ Premium” 🤬

You're not wrong. BUT... if we all ignore PJ Premium & let them sit til day-of-show, they WILL drop to Standard pricing. That's a whole other rant.

My beef is with lurkers stalking our message board, sniping tickets, and breaking several rules between PJ, TM, and ebay itself to try & turn an obscene profit. 

I wish them ill fortune. Lit & fig.

given2fly23

Fans are no better. Just saw a post in an FB group…

“Have N2 GA single. Looking for N1 Chicago GA plus rare Wrigley posters (will pay for cost of posters). Message me if interested”

Oh really, you’ll give me $30 for my Cracker Jack? No
different than scalping. Awful all around. 

darwinstheory

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Animal said:

We gotta do SOMETHING. Switch to DM's only for timed drops, maybe? Yeah, you might sit on your tickets you're trying to unload a day or two longer, but having these pop on the 'bay & SH/SG/Vivid is bullshit.

The only way to stop these dickheads (and if you're reading this, TicketClub = you ARE a dickhead & a coward), is to do it in secret.

that's what PJNB and I did. he got my STP2 GA that way. 

I've been trying to get someone to do a timed drop for Chi/StP2/Indy shows. I did get someone to do a timed drop for seats in Indy and another guy is hooking me up with his StP2 tix. Still would love to schedule a timed drop to get an Indy upgrade and definitely looking to get someone to sell/transfer their Chicago tickets to me.

RatherStarved

given2fly23 said:

Fans are no better. Just saw a post in an FB group…

“Have N2 GA single. Looking for N1 Chicago GA plus rare Wrigley posters (will pay for cost of posters). Message me if interested”

Oh really, you’ll give me $30 for my Cracker Jack? No
different than scalping. Awful all around. 

That’s right.

A bit ironic though as your comment could be interpreted as implying the right to scalp a poster is sacred but scalping a ticket is awful.  

given2fly23

RatherStarved said:

given2fly23 said:

Fans are no better. Just saw a post in an FB group…

“Have N2 GA single. Looking for N1 Chicago GA plus rare Wrigley posters (will pay for cost of posters). Message me if interested”

Oh really, you’ll give me $30 for my Cracker Jack? No
different than scalping. Awful all around. 

That’s right.

A bit ironic though as your comment could be interpreted as implying the right to scalp a poster is sacred but scalping a ticket is awful.  

Cracker Jack is 10 years old at this point. It’s different than buying posters for the sole purpose of flipping them or scalping tix. You’ve been around, I’m sure you can see the difference. 

RatherStarved

given2fly23 said:

RatherStarved said:

given2fly23 said:

Fans are no better. Just saw a post in an FB group…

“Have N2 GA single. Looking for N1 Chicago GA plus rare Wrigley posters (will pay for cost of posters). Message me if interested”

Oh really, you’ll give me $30 for my Cracker Jack? No
different than scalping. Awful all around. 

That’s right.

A bit ironic though as your comment could be interpreted as implying the right to scalp a poster is sacred but scalping a ticket is awful.  

Cracker Jack is 10 years old at this point. It’s different than buying posters for the sole purpose of flipping them or scalping tix. You’ve been around, I’m sure you can see the difference. 

I hear you.  It’s still market value vs book value tho.  

goblues82

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY IF YOU HAVE TICKETS TO RELEASE, POST THAT YOU DO AND GIVE PEOPLE A FEW HOURS TO RESPOND THEY WANT THEM…. THEN DO A TIMED DROP, IN PRIVATE MESSAGING! SO THOSE 3/4/5 PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD AND FAIR SHOT AT THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE BEEN TEN CLUB MEMBERS FOR MORE THAN A FEW MONTHS IN THEIR PROFILE!!!!

I know it’s more work but don’t act like you’re doing anyone favors saying you’re releasing tickets at 10 am when it’s 9:56 and by the time you log into Ticketmaster they are long gone. 

steven87

Go Animal said:

We gotta do SOMETHING. Switch to DM's only for timed drops, maybe? Yeah, you might sit on your tickets you're trying to unload a day or two longer, but having these pop on the 'bay & SH/SG/Vivid is bullshit.

The only way to stop these dickheads (and if you're reading this, TicketClub = you ARE a dickhead & a coward), is to do it in secret.

I fully agree. That’s why ever since Ticketclub started swiping tickets off of F2F, I stopped posting drop times publicly on here and instead have only been arranging private drops via DM at random times when less sharks are swimming in the F2F waters. Of course it’s not a full proof method by any means, but the drops have worked out so far. 

steven87

goblues82 said:

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY IF YOU HAVE TICKETS TO RELEASE, POST THAT YOU DO AND GIVE PEOPLE A FEW HOURS TO RESPOND THEY WANT THEM…. THEN DO A TIMED DROP, IN PRIVATE MESSAGING! SO THOSE 3/4/5 PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD AND FAIR SHOT AT THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE BEEN TEN CLUB MEMBERS FOR MORE THAN A FEW MONTHS IN THEIR PROFILE!!!!

I know it’s more work but don’t act like you’re doing anyone favors saying you’re releasing tickets at 10 am when it’s 9:56 and by the time you log into Ticketmaster they are long gone. 

I concur. It makes sense to only arrange drops with people who’ve been 10c members for at least a little while since I’m assuming (hoping) that they’re not scalpers. 

SHZA

I’ve -posted a few recently just giving a heads up on here 5 minutes before and people here got them, like the 117 row 5 MN2 the other day. I’ve not seen any posted with that method wind up on scalper resale. The ones I see on ebay seem to be either totally unannounced or just less desirable seats (e.g. far lower corners) that people on here aren’t really trying for. So if you want to do a private timed drop in the middle of the night, that's cool, but a simple "I'm about to post X" is still a viable method and was how one of these F2F threads started in 2020. It's less helpful if you wait until the tickets are actually showing up on the page to give the heads up lol 

danofun

danofun said:

Just to be clear, scalpers aren’t sitting at their computers, watching these forums, and hitting F5 like the rest of us. F2F was born because bands wanted to limit 3rd parties from profiting on their ticket sales. In 2022, they succeeded and PJ F2F was spared the scalper bots. That may no longer be the case. 

If a profit is possible, scalper bots will be spinning 24/7 and timed drops, be it public, private, day or night, will have a very small chance of being successful.

Here’s hoping this fear is not yet realized.

👆

100 Pacer

Can’t believe it’s already August.

Feels like the lottery redraws were yesterday.

Kwieneke

100 Pacer said:

Can’t believe it’s already August.

Feels like the lottery redraws were yesterday.

almost 4 months already since the tour was announced

HughFreakingDillon

darwinstheory said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Animal said:

We gotta do SOMETHING. Switch to DM's only for timed drops, maybe? Yeah, you might sit on your tickets you're trying to unload a day or two longer, but having these pop on the 'bay & SH/SG/Vivid is bullshit.

The only way to stop these dickheads (and if you're reading this, TicketClub = you ARE a dickhead & a coward), is to do it in secret.

that's what PJNB and I did. he got my STP2 GA that way. 

I've been trying to get someone to do a timed drop for Chi/StP2/Indy shows. I did get someone to do a timed drop for seats in Indy and another guy is hooking me up with his StP2 tix. Still would love to schedule a timed drop to get an Indy upgrade and definitely looking to get someone to sell/transfer their Chicago tickets to me.

I had no idea about the lurkers until he mentioned it to me. crazy racket these people have going. 

JE224127

^^^Same here, just went and looked them up. They have a pretty good bit of tickets up on eBay for DFW. Seems like a nice little letter from 10Club could help out here…