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  • Edved007
    Edved007 Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,065
    The whole thing is just crazy, so it appears they have stopped F2F for now across the board. Can't be having all those face value tickets floating around when you're still trying to sell worse seats for $800 a piece. My patience for the whole situation is just about gone...and I really hate to admit it, but you just can't help having all this nonsense affect your passion/excitement of seeing the band. I really try to compartmentalize it all, but it's human nature, it just taints the whole thing, and I'm just tired of it.    

    On a more "macro" level, I really feel all this will continue to hurt the "brand" of Pearl Jam as well, it just can't not hurt it as time rolls on, whole thing bums me out.
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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,953
    Pretty maddening to see entire rows of Premium get added in the sections that should have members with 10c numbers from the 90s. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,352
    aisleseats said:
    More and more keep popping up. I'm pretty sure they realized that they started F2F too early and hadn't sold enough Premium yet. Who the hell is gonna buy all those overpriced tickets, when better seats are popping up at face value?
    Hopefully, no one. If we leave them unsold they'll drop by day or week of show.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,352
    Edved007 said:
    The whole thing is just crazy, so it appears they have stopped F2F for now across the board. Can't be having all those face value tickets floating around when you're still trying to sell worse seats for $800 a piece. My patience for the whole situation is just about gone...and I really hate to admit it, but you just can't help having all this nonsense affect your passion/excitement of seeing the band. I really try to compartmentalize it all, but it's human nature, it just taints the whole thing, and I'm just tired of it.    

    On a more "macro" level, I really feel all this will continue to hurt the "brand" of Pearl Jam as well, it just can't not hurt it as time rolls on, whole thing bums me out.
    You're not alone, bud.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,352
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    Pretty maddening to see entire rows of Premium get added in the sections that should have members with 10c numbers from the 90s. 
    Spot on.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • jwc6160
    jwc6160 Posts: 393
    Go Animal said:
    Edved007 said:
    The whole thing is just crazy, so it appears they have stopped F2F for now across the board. Can't be having all those face value tickets floating around when you're still trying to sell worse seats for $800 a piece. My patience for the whole situation is just about gone...and I really hate to admit it, but you just can't help having all this nonsense affect your passion/excitement of seeing the band. I really try to compartmentalize it all, but it's human nature, it just taints the whole thing, and I'm just tired of it.    

    On a more "macro" level, I really feel all this will continue to hurt the "brand" of Pearl Jam as well, it just can't not hurt it as time rolls on, whole thing bums me out.
    You're not alone, bud.
    Agreed, I missed out on some F2Fs yesterday and it is what it is, but seeing this today is just brutal. I have shitty uppers currently and that is fine. I also wonder about those holding face value floors and seeing them being sold for 10x. I mean, I hate the whole scalping process and wish it was against the law, but I'd rather see a fan make money than a shitty ticket broker. I know that defeats the whole purpose, but seeing all these premiums pop up today, just irritates me. 
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  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    edited May 2023
    So, I keep seeing varying reports of them taking fees and/or taxes out of F2F sales for PJ this year. As I've mentioned before, I ended up losing nearly $40 (on a $200 pair) for a F2F sale I did for Billy Strings last year.

    Can anyone who already sold tickets yesterday confirm what their payout amount will be in comparison to the original purchase price?
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,103
    Mr. Fixer said:
    Ticketmaster is buying some of the Fan 2 Fan and then making them Premium, hence the "U533" error code...conspriacy theory.
    If true, that would be a whole new level of wrong.

  • Ando
    Ando Denver Posts: 410
    This is my first time trying the F2F, do you need to do anything special/different or just sign in as a verified fan to buy tickets?
  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,190
    aisleseats said:
    So, I keep seeing varying reports of them taking fees and/or taxes out of F2F sales for PJ this year. As I've mentioned before, I ended up losing nearly $40 (on a $200 pair) for a F2F sale I did for Billy Strings last year.

    Can anyone who already sold tickets yesterday confirm what their payout amount will be in comparison to the original purchase price?
    I had to fill out a tax form yesterday when I sold. It said $166 a ticket thereabouts. I have not received payment back yet so I am not sure what that amount will be. 

    This whole thing has been really tough to watch for everyone. 
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  • ogottfried
    ogottfried Posts: 35
    So it seems that the F2F keeps opening and closing. So if we want to post our tickets for sale, I just need to continually check in my TM account to see if I can list them? There is no official date/time when the exchange will be fully open?
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    GlowGirl said:
    Mr. Fixer said:
    Ticketmaster is buying some of the Fan 2 Fan and then making them Premium, hence the "U533" error code...conspriacy theory.
    If true, that would be a whole new level of wrong.

    A lot of people were keeping an eye out for that last year. I don't think anyone ever actually found any.
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,352
    aisleseats said:
    So, I keep seeing varying reports of them taking fees and/or taxes out of F2F sales for PJ this year. As I've mentioned before, I ended up losing nearly $40 (on a $200 pair) for a F2F sale I did for Billy Strings last year.

    Can anyone who already sold tickets yesterday confirm what their payout amount will be in comparison to the original purchase price?
    I'm losing about $22 or $23 in fees on the austin pair that I listed on fan to fan yesterday
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • logan5ive
    logan5ive Dallas, TX Posts: 519
    I just started up the TM chat to ask when F2F would go live....was told I'd get a response within 4 hours.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    ogottfried said:
    So it seems that the F2F keeps opening and closing. So if we want to post our tickets for sale, I just need to continually check in my TM account to see if I can list them? There is no official date/time when the exchange will be fully open?
    Correct.
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,352
    ogottfried said:
    So it seems that the F2F keeps opening and closing. So if we want to post our tickets for sale, I just need to continually check in my TM account to see if I can list them? There is no official date/time when the exchange will be fully open?
    Nope. TM just like fucking with us. All of us.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,723
    aisleseats said:
    So, I keep seeing varying reports of them taking fees and/or taxes out of F2F sales for PJ this year. As I've mentioned before, I ended up losing nearly $40 (on a $200 pair) for a F2F sale I did for Billy Strings last year.

    Can anyone who already sold tickets yesterday confirm what their payout amount will be in comparison to the original purchase price?
    After I upgraded yesterday for MN N1 on F2F, I sold my original pair for $320.16. I originally purchased them (during the 10c presale) for $322.84. 
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    aisleseats said:
    So, I keep seeing varying reports of them taking fees and/or taxes out of F2F sales for PJ this year. As I've mentioned before, I ended up losing nearly $40 (on a $200 pair) for a F2F sale I did for Billy Strings last year.

    Can anyone who already sold tickets yesterday confirm what their payout amount will be in comparison to the original purchase price?
    Austin Resale is 150, actual cost was 162, if you look at the breakdown on the receipt it calls out tax and fees as separate, on Ft Worth tickets its a straight Fee, doesn't list tax. If tax is called out separately its not given back, but doesn't seem to be charged to the next buyer. 
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    Total payout $320.16 for the 2 St Paul tickets I sold yesterday. Email I got said it'll take 5-7 business days to receive payout.  Not holding my breath though. 
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  • ogottfried
    ogottfried Posts: 35
    logan5ive said:
    I just started up the TM chat to ask when F2F would go live....was told I'd get a response within 4 hours.
    Thanks. Will be curious to hear what they say
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