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    Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 4,425
    I mean, do they not think we're paying attention?

    That everyone who's looking for PJ tickets is just magically checking today for the first time?

    I hope we're all taking plenty on screenshots...
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    craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,248
    Go Animal said:
    I mean, do they not think we're paying attention?

    That everyone who's looking for PJ tickets is just magically checking today for the first time?

    I hope we're all taking plenty on screenshots...
    We are not whom they are selling to., so they dont care, we got our tickets from the fan club... we are just a nuisance at this point - 
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    incognitonyincognitony KY Posts: 140
    Worse case is we have tickets for both shows in MN and IL. None are horrible, but all could be improved upon. The Ticketmaster account is from AOL days so isn't new. 
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    GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,572
    Someone should really try and stand up to ticketmaster.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,990
    It's a little known fact, but Benedict Arnold's conspiring with the British was a response to Ticketmaster. 
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,515
    cutz said:
    I assume I'm not the only one who got this (trying to get a ticket for Noblesville and I am signed into my TM account)

    Unfortunately, we were unable to complete the request on this device.


    Please make sure you are signed into your Ticketmaster account and try again or come back later.

    I got it and had to switch to mobile data. I read they block IPs
    I thought I was getting this because I was signed on to my Laptop & Phone at the same time. I Logged Out on BOTH and then I ONLY logged back onto my Laptop and I still got that same pop-up message.
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    HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 4,604
    I got Strokes tickets at Red Rocks today. $135 face value. AXS is the ticket vendor, same tactics as Ticketmaster just different interface. I saw Incubus play there last October, “premiums” were $500…to see incubus…to see the strokes premiums were $369. 
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    jwc6160jwc6160 Posts: 321
    Been refreshing Austin N1 off and on all day long. Irritated that F2F isn't up, but happy to report no one has purchased the 6 overpriced upper level "premium" tix all day. 
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,515
    cutz said:
    cutz said:
    I assume I'm not the only one who got this (trying to get a ticket for Noblesville and I am signed into my TM account)

    Unfortunately, we were unable to complete the request on this device.


    Please make sure you are signed into your Ticketmaster account and try again or come back later.

    I got it and had to switch to mobile data. I read they block IPs
    I thought I was getting this because I was signed on to my Laptop & Phone at the same time. I Logged Out on BOTH and then I ONLY logged back onto my Laptop and I still got that same pop-up message.
    For shits & giggles, I tried to see of I got the same for another concert and I didn't. I could've bought a ticket for Aerosmith but I CAN'T for Pearl Jam.

    Ridiculous!! 
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    JE224127JE224127 Fairhope, AL Posts: 339
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
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    flanosmasseurflanosmasseur Posts: 215
    edited May 2023
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    This takes me back to the "best seats in the house" conversation. That PJ Premium row in Sec H, Row BB you're referring to (granted, it is six rows behind me), has a MUCH better sight line to the stage than my seats that are almost all the way to the right. Closer doesn't always mean better.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,990
    edited May 2023
    Best and better seats will always be subjective. I like aisle seats and sightlines. I'd rather be on an aisle with a view five sections from the stage than in the middle of a closer row with a sharp angle view of the stage. 
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    Mr. FixerMr. Fixer Posts: 590
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    That makes the platinum tickets that went for about $328 a piece (in Section D, Row BB) earlier in the morning seem like a complete "STEAL!!" LOL.  Here's to TM Dynamic Pricing!!!
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    flanosmasseurflanosmasseur Posts: 215
    JimmyV said:
    Best and better seats will always be subjective. I like aisle seats and sightlines. I'd rather be on an aisle with a view five sections from the stage than in the middle of a closer row with a sharp angle view of the stage. 
    I agree JimmyV
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,389
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    the problem is people keep buying the Premium tickets, so the next one's they post keep going up in price 
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,990
    Official I Miss Face Value Ticket Exchange (F2F) Thread
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,634
    JimmyV said:
    Official I Miss Face Value Ticket Exchange (F2F) Thread
    I mean…at least I’ve remained focused on work.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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    craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,248
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    those last rows on the other side were $3xx, then $4xx now $6xx... WTF.. Greedy MFers

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    craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,248
    edited May 2023
    We need to chant No More Premium... between songs,,, come on, hear us

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    kaw753kaw753 Posts: 767
    They have $400 tickets up for the worst seats in the arena for Austin. I would like to post the second worst seats in the arena for $162, if they will let me.
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    craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,248
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    those last rows on the other side were $3xx, then $4xx now $6xx... WTF.. Greedy MFers

    Someone bought those 600 seats in Indy... 

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    Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 4,425
    edited May 2023
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    those last rows on the other side were $3xx, then $4xx now $6xx... WTF.. Greedy MFers

    Someone bought those 600 seats in Indy... 

    Hopefully not. They were pulling seats & relisting them up til show time last year.

    If someone bought them & they can't go, hoo boy...
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    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are (thank you, Vegas!), Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job (Vegas!), low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
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    kaw753kaw753 Posts: 767
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,990
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    My guess is that TM and promoters sell bands on Premium by saying "We can guarantee you an additional $x amount each show." Then they price some tickets that are truly the best seats, and use scare tactics and false demand to sell the others - like the $400 upper bowl seats you reference. Bands don't care because they get their money and TM must have data that supports doing it this way.

    I do agree, from a PR standpoint it is a bad look. 
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    jwc6160jwc6160 Posts: 321
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    Completely agree with this take. This and manipulating the market and F2F makes it all even worse. I'm in the same boat as the poster above. I'm trying to upgrade my Austin tix and will list my current uppers for over $200 per seat less than some "premium" seats that are currently listed right now a few rows behind me. Its ridiculous. 
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    aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,251
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    Aside from the price. 
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    johnny__utahjohnny__utah New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 195
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    Maybe PJ took the high road and made the actual good seats 10C and threw all those Premiums they agreed to at the back. Either way, that price will have to drop once F2F opens 
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,389
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
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    wwsuicidewwsuicide Posts: 1,318
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
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    wwsuicidewwsuicide Posts: 1,318
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
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