Jordan Neely

mace1229

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Indifference said:

Assume everyone seen the longer video

https://twitter.com/WGthink/status/1655369029920407556?s=20

"Sensitive content" and can't see it.

Three people were restraining Neely. So two people came to the marine's assistance

Were the other 2 chraged?

So you have two people helping and a woman filming it looks like and the person sitting filming.

Charge them too.

Sitting idle shouldn’t be given a free pass.  They could have helped.

Charge people for not helping? What is this, the series finale of Seinfeld? 
I don't agree with that, you can't charge people for not getting involved. Even if you wanted to, there's too many variables and complications. How do you determine who is able to? How are they supposed to know who to assist, the guy causing the problems or the guy who took the self defense too far? Too many things to consider to charge people for not helping. 

There was actually a case where people got charged for just that.

Also the other cops that watched Chauvin kneel on Floyds neck were also charged, why?  They didn't do anything.

Whats the other example? I just googled it and, according to the inter webs, generally there is no requirement to give aid. There are a couple of states that have exceptions. But even in those exceptions, you are not required if it puts yourself in danger. I would think breaking up a fight would easily be considered putting yourself in danger. I would think that law is more like if you see someone having a heart attack on the sidewalk, you need to call 911 and not just step over him.

Heres one.  I'll find others.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/16/this-ohio-man-filmed-a-fatal-car-crash-instead-of-helping-then-police-arrested-him/

Just read it. I wouldn't consider that being charged for not helping. He was charged with vehicular trespassing
A little bit of a gray area. As it sounds like the authorities were so disgusted with him just filming the kids dying that they came up with a charge. He even opened a door to get a better shot of the dying kids and didn't offer any help. They even admit it in the article, they wanted to charge him with something, but didn't know what. So they decided on vehicular trespassing since he opened the door.  But it wasn't the not helping they charged him with, it was wondering around the crime scene and opening the car door. Had he just stood back and not filmed, I doubt he would have been charged with anything. 

tempo_n_groove

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Indifference said:

Assume everyone seen the longer video

https://twitter.com/WGthink/status/1655369029920407556?s=20

"Sensitive content" and can't see it.

Three people were restraining Neely. So two people came to the marine's assistance

Were the other 2 chraged?

So you have two people helping and a woman filming it looks like and the person sitting filming.

Charge them too.

Sitting idle shouldn’t be given a free pass.  They could have helped.

Charge people for not helping? What is this, the series finale of Seinfeld? 
I don't agree with that, you can't charge people for not getting involved. Even if you wanted to, there's too many variables and complications. How do you determine who is able to? How are they supposed to know who to assist, the guy causing the problems or the guy who took the self defense too far? Too many things to consider to charge people for not helping. 

There was actually a case where people got charged for just that.

Also the other cops that watched Chauvin kneel on Floyds neck were also charged, why?  They didn't do anything.

Whats the other example? I just googled it and, according to the inter webs, generally there is no requirement to give aid. There are a couple of states that have exceptions. But even in those exceptions, you are not required if it puts yourself in danger. I would think breaking up a fight would easily be considered putting yourself in danger. I would think that law is more like if you see someone having a heart attack on the sidewalk, you need to call 911 and not just step over him.

Heres one.  I'll find others.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/16/this-ohio-man-filmed-a-fatal-car-crash-instead-of-helping-then-police-arrested-him/

Just read it. I wouldn't consider that being charged for not helping. He was charged with trespassing into a crime scene.

A little bit of a gray area. As it sounds like the authorities were so disgusted with him just filming the kids dying that they came up with a charge. He even opened a door to get a better shot of the dying kids and didn't offer any help. But it wasn't the not helping they charged him with, it was wondering around the crime scene and opening the car door. Had he just stood back and not filmed, I doubt he would have been charged with anything. 

There was one incident I remember that people filmed instead of helping and they were charged.  I'll see if I can find that.  It was a while ago.

mace1229

Morally you're a douchebag if you don't help. But I just don't see how the law can require it. Especially in a world where people are afraid to help with lawsuits. If there's a law requiring people to help, it should be illegal to sue. 

HughFreakingDillon

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/15/opinions/ron-desantis-jordan-neely-comments-obeidallah/index.html

it appears some are closer on the opinion spectrum to MTG than they'd probably like to believe...

josevolution

He’s been indicted!