Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

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  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,076
    So does this mean GA won’t change for folks? 
    Your assigned GA spot may change :wink:
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    2010-05-03 Kansas City | 2011-07-01 St. Louis EV
    2011-07-02 Mpls EV | 2011-09-03 PJ20
    2011-09-04 PJ20 | 2011-09-17 Winnipeg
    2012-09-30 Missoula | 2012-11-18 Tulsa EV
    2013-07-19 Chicago | 2013-11-15 Dallas
    2013-11-16 OKC | 2014-10-09 Lincoln
    2014-10-17 Moline | 2014-10-19 St. Paul
    2014-10-20 Milwaukee | 2016-08-20 Chicago
    2016-08-22 Chicago | 2018-08-18 Chicago
    2018-08-20 Chicago | 2022-05-09 Phoenix
    2022-05-20 Las Vegas | 2022-09-18 St. Louis 
    2022-09-20 OKC | 2023-08-31 St. Paul
    2023-09-02 St. Paul | 2024-05-16 Las Vegas
    2024-05-18 Las Vegas | 2024-08-31 Chicago
  • Kevinman
    Kevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,921
    Kevinman said:
    PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    Oh look at this!
    "We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."
    They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening. 
    I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are. 
    Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.
    Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities won
    No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it. 
    Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken. 
    Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.
    You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?
    I'm not going to try to talk to you about proving a negative and the onus of evidence again. Sorry. You don't actually want to hear anything, you just want to posture and attack. Enjoy. 
    Watch me posture, now watch me attack.  I was really just defending someone else's view on the situation, because you come off like you know the exact way the whole thing went down and guess what..............I'm not buying it.
    I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side

    06.27.98  Alpine Valley
    10.08.00  Alpine Valley
    09.23.02  Chicago
    06.18.03  Chicago | 06.21.03  Alpine Valley
    10.03.04  Grand Rapids
    10.05.05  Chicago
    05.16.06  Chicago | 05.17.06  Chicago | 06.29.06  Milwaukee
    08.02.07  Chicago | 08.05.07  Chicago
    08.23.09  Chicago | 08.24.09  Chicago
    05.07.10  Noblesville | 05.09.10  Cleveland
    09.03.11  Alpine Valley | 09.04.11  Alpine Valley
    07.19.13  Chicago
    10.17.14  Moline
    08.20.16  Chicago
    08.18.18  Chicago
    09.18.22  St. Louis
    09.05.23 Chicago
  • machinehum
    machinehum Posts: 166
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  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    I hope I get a commerative ticket for each assignment.  I want to remember this forever.
  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,278
    I'm glad they are going to (hopefully) fix this mess for the longtime 10C members but now I'm afraid I'll get fucked out of my aisle seats for the FTW shows. My seats for both of them aren't great but I was happy to be on the aisle. It's a small venue anyway so just being in was good enough.
  • I think they just need to go ahead and add a second Noblesville show to smooth things over  :)
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    JimmyV said:
    "Ten Club Presale Update

    News April 27 2023

    We are sending a note to all Ten Club reserved seat ticket holders. 

    We apologize for the confusion and extra time it has taken to complete Ten Club’s presale. What we initially believed to be one issue affecting five shows turned out to be two separate issues - one originating from Ticketmaster and the second from Ten Club - affecting Ten Club seniority-based seating assignments across all nine shows. This had no impact on who got tickets, but did affect where those ticket holders’ seats were assigned. Based on this updated information, we now know the first attempt to fix these issues wasn’t sufficient. We remain fully committed to making things right. 

    In the coming days, Ten Club and Ticketmaster will be working on a solution to reassign seats to their final proper seniority based order. For some of you this will be a second reassignment. Tickets will not show in your Ticketmaster account until all seating assignments are finalized. You’ll be notified of any changes to your seating assignment in the next week. You will not lose your tickets and Friday’s Verified Fan on sale will not impact your seats. 

    We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour. 

    We want to reassure you that if you received an email confirmation, you have tickets to the show. We apologize that you may not know exactly where your seats will be located yet. 

    We are grateful for the Ten Club community and striving to do our best for you. Thank you for your patience. 

    Ten Club"

    Sweet.
    Ok now is everyone happy?  Mistakes were made, we’re all human, things are getting fixed.  They don’t owe us full details about the mistakes, they’ve admitted to them.  
    I'm not happy... I have good seats for both Ft. Worth shows that are now at risk. It's a small venue so it'll be fine in the end, but would be a huge disappointment if I got bumped from lower bowl to anywhere outside of that. Not to mention additional charges/refunds that will likely have to happen...

    There is a reason test environments exist for this type of thing. Why this would be rolled out live before it was tested thoroughly is beyond me. Why this band would continue to do business with TM is beyond me...
    I get that and you should be bummed but you’re being respectful about it.  Seems like no matter what people are going to be happy or mad.  Someone like 200 pages back mentioned this may have been a test run.  Imagine the fiasco if it was 20 cities.  My thoughts are that PJ puts  pressure on TM to get what they want for their fans.  What other band has TM configuring ticket sales with all the stipulations PJ has.
  • IlliniGuy76
    IlliniGuy76 Posts: 683
    Kevinman said:
    PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    Oh look at this!
    "We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."
    They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening. 
    I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are. 
    Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.
    Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities won
    No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it. 
    Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken. 
    Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.
    You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?
    I'm not going to try to talk to you about proving a negative and the onus of evidence again. Sorry. You don't actually want to hear anything, you just want to posture and attack. Enjoy. 
    The "onus of evidence" is literally "PearlJamDude10" or "I'm Alive" or "MikeRocks" tossing complete speculation out there with literally zero iota as to the answer of:  why.  That's not posturing or attacking nor is it being crazy - they simply want to know why they've paid their membership fees for this very opportunity & the priority didn't work as intended.
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense...

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    2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022:  9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023:  9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024:  8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)

  • machinehum
    machinehum Posts: 166
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Is anyone else very afraid for another seat reassignment. The first one moved me back, but it wasn't too bad. I'm worried about the next one.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • marra2312
    marra2312 Posts: 60
    Well, this is all going swimmingly.
  • johnny__utah
    johnny__utah New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 201
    CopperTom said:
    I hope I get a commerative ticket for each assignment.  I want to remember this forever.
    Comment of the thread
  • Did ya'll see this....

    AND, how do we know if we will be moved? 

    A message from Ten Club

    We are sending a note to all Ten Club reserved seat ticket holders. 

    We apologize for the confusion and extra time it has taken to complete Ten Club’s presale. What we initially believed to be one issue affecting five shows turned out to be two separate issues - one originating from Ticketmaster and the second from Ten Club - affecting Ten Club seniority-based seating assignments across all nine shows. This had no impact on who got tickets, but did affect where those ticket holders’ seats were assigned. Based on this updated information, we now know the first attempt to fix these issues wasn’t sufficient. We remain fully committed to making things right. 

    In the coming days, Ten Club and Ticketmaster will be working on a solution to reassign seats to their final proper seniority based order. For some of you this will be a second reassignment. Tickets will not show in your Ticketmaster account until all seating assignments are finalized. You’ll be notified of any changes to your seating assignment in the next week. You will not lose your tickets and Friday’s Verified Fan on sale will not impact your seats. 

    We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour. 

    We want to reassure you that if you received an email confirmation, you have tickets to the show. We apologize that you may not know exactly where your seats will be located yet. 

    We are grateful for the Ten Club community and striving to do our best for you. Thank you for your patience. 

    Ten Club
     
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    November 24, 2013 - Los Angeles, Sports Arena
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    May 16, 2022 - Fresno, Save Mart Center
    September 13 & 15, 2023 - FT. Worth, Dickies 
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    May 6 & 8, 2025 - Nashville, Bridgestone Arena 
  • Hagrid7575
    Hagrid7575 Posts: 188
    I know a guy. They call him T-Money. Now, T-Money is a straight-shooter. T-Money calls it as he sees it. Does the 'T' stand for Truth? I don't know, but it could be, sure. And this standup dude, T-Money, he's going to St. Paul, and he's sitting right where he needs to be.
    I actually do know a guy named T-Money. Is he really going to St. Paul?
    Ohhh, he's going to St. Paul. 
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    Are people fighting? It feels like people are fighting.
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    CopperTom said:
    I hope I get a commerative ticket for each assignment.  I want to remember this forever.
    Comment of the thread
    <bows>
  • EC27213
    EC27213 Posts: 7
    [insert michael jackson munching popcorn meme here]
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    I think they just need to go ahead and add a second Noblesville show to smooth things over  :)
    This 
  • The Camaros Hood
    The Camaros Hood Boston, MA Posts: 482
    ZoSoTim said:
    I'm glad they are going to (hopefully) fix this mess for the longtime 10C members but now I'm afraid I'll get fucked out of my aisle seats for the FTW shows. My seats for both of them aren't great but I was happy to be on the aisle. It's a small venue anyway so just being in was good enough.
    Exactly. I have GA and 125. Would hate to lose them but I’ll take anything. This place is tiny. But I’d like some aisle. That’s more valuable to me than some closer locations. 
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  • FC28207
    FC28207 Posts: 74
    I’m about ready for flamewars to be moved to PMs
    1. Red Rocks '95, second night starting on chairs
    2. buncha others, doesn't really matter