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Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread
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I can appreciate the logic of "more 10c seats means higher sections" but at some point that trade off isnt worth it when they claim to reserve the best seats for 10c.
Now I get to decide if its worth flying from the west coast to sit in the 3rd level, or if I should be a bad 10c member and sell my tickets (as is my right in IL).Post edited by L1quid on0 -
Appreciated email from Ten Club addressing the issues. Y'all get it?Randall's Island, NY 9/29/1996, Randall's Island, NY 6/8/1997 (Ed and Mike), Jones Beach, NY 8/23/2000, Los Angeles, CA 7/10/2006, Hartford, CT 6/27/2008, Los Angeles, CA 10/6/2009, San Diego, CA 11/21/2013, Los Angeles, CA 11/24/2013, MSG, NY 5/1/2016, Seattle, WA 8/10/2018, Los Angeles, CA 5/6/2022, Los Angeles, CA 5/7/2022, Camden, NJ 9/14/2022, St Paul 8/31/2023, St Paul 9/2/2023, Las Vegas 5/18/24, MSG NY 9/3/24, Philadelphia PA 9/9/24, Ohana CA 9/27/24, Atlanta, GA 4/29/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/16/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/18/250
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You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?machinehum said:
Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.PJNB said:
Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.machinehum said:
No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.NewfieintheUSA said:
Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities wonPJNB said:
Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.machinehum said:Oh look at this!"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side0 -
I have no idea what tickets I have, and was charged almost $1600.00 that has posted to my CC account. Yeah, I'm not thrilled.0
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Ticketmaster is a criminal organization. Fuck them and any politicians who are in their pocketoharajohn83 said:I have no idea what tickets I have, and was charged almost $1600.00 that has posted to my CC account. Yeah, I'm not thrilled.Wrigley 7/19/2013
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Wrigley 8/31/2024
Baltimore 9/12/2024
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Glad that 10Club updated and are rectifying the situation. I just hope we dont have a 3rd round of charges.Turn this anger into
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Find me one person that won GA with a 3rd pick. A 4th pick. Anything above a 2nd pick. You can't. I am not even sure there were 2nd picks I am at least giving that as a freebie since I think St Paul night 1 could have overflowed into the 2nd picks.machinehum said:
Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.PJNB said:
Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.machinehum said:
No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.NewfieintheUSA said:
Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities wonPJNB said:
Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.machinehum said:Oh look at this!"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.
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I rather de-grade now,or upgrade."The waiting drove me mad!!!"0
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So did an email go out? I didn’t get one. But I see the post on the website. Will be interesting to see how this affects TX shows.Austin, TX - 9/16/95 ~ Charleston, SC - 10/5/96 ~ Dallas, TX - 7/5/98 ~ San Antonio, TX - 4/5/03 ~ Denver, CO - 7/2/06 ~ EV - LA #2 - 4/13/08 ~ Austin, TX - 10/4/09 ~ Los Angeles, CA #1 - 11/23/13 ~ Los Angeles, CA #2 - 11/24/13 ~ Seattle, WA - 12/6/13 ~ NYC #1 - 5/1/16 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 8/5/16 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 8/7/16 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 9/2/18 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 9/4/18 ~ Louisville, KY - 9/17/22 ~ Ft. Worth, TX #1 - 9/13/23 ~ Ft. Worth, TX #2 - 9/15/23 ~ Austin, Texas #1 - 9/18/23 ~ Austin, Texas #2 - 9/19/23 ~ NYC #2 - 9/4/24 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 9/15/24 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 9/17/24 ~ Atlanta, GA #2 - 5/1/250
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Gotcha. Thanks.machinehum said:
Of course I can't,PJNB said:
Find me one person that won GA with a 3rd pick. A 4th pick. Anything above a 2nd pick. You can't. I am not even sure there were 2nd picks I am at least giving that as a freebie since I think St Paul night 1 could have overflowed into the 2nd picks.machinehum said:
Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.PJNB said:
Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.machinehum said:
No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.NewfieintheUSA said:
Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities wonPJNB said:
Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.machinehum said:Oh look at this!"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.0 -
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There's a little bit of gaslighting here, and it doesn't sit well with me.
"We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up."
This is not true. PJ Premium is taking a good chunk of the best seats. It needs to be abolished.
Save a HANDFULL of the good seats/rows for Premium, give good seats to all 10 clubbers (based on seniority so nobody's panties are in a bunch), and sell what's leftover as a mix of regular price & Premium for the regular ticket buyer.
I firmly believe this band doesn't NEED PJ Premium. Love 'em. Respect the hell out of them.
But it shouldn't be like this.35 years, 35 shows.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
I actually do know a guy named T-Money. Is he really going to St. Paul?Hagrid7575 said:I know a guy. They call him T-Money. Now, T-Money is a straight-shooter. T-Money calls it as he sees it. Does the 'T' stand for Truth? I don't know, but it could be, sure. And this standup dude, T-Money, he's going to St. Paul, and he's sitting right where he needs to be.0 -
Thanks - you just confirmed what I thought. No one knows, there is zero logical explanation as to why priority actually didn't work as intended.. 10c does monitor these boards and I'm sure tthere's probably some hope of actually being given reasons why so folks know what to do next time etc.machinehum said:
There are dozens of explanations for it, which are called "ranking" or "preference" algorithms, a few real-world examples of which have been provided repeatedly in this thread (even ones specifically addressing concert draws from other bands' fan clubs) but you and your brethren refuse to acknowledge this. You can keep posting your abusive nonsensical whines until the end of time, but it would be mental to spend another second trying to talk with people who don't want to hear.IlliniGuy76 said:
What was it "changed" to? Why have a priority then if the priority doesn't matter? It's ridiculous that Priority 1 didn't get tickets but people literally with Priority 7 did. There is ZERO explanation for that. Going through 10C will yield zero explanation either. They have a right to be beyond frustrated - the only reason to keep membership these days is for this specific perk and they got royally screwed.machinehum said:
No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.NewfieintheUSA said:
Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities wonPJNB said:
Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.machinehum said:Oh look at this!"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
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I'm going to go back to reading mock drafts and petting my dog until this all gets sorted.0
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I can't really get moved any further back for the UC shows, haha, so unless they are putting me in the parking lot I'm hopeful they at least get a bit better!lahren said:Can they at the very least not downgrade the seats we already have? I don't think I can take going even further back. I still have PTSD from yesterday. Not sure I can take another hit. LOL.95' - 7/9
98' - 6/26, 6/27, 6/29, 8/26, 9/22
03' - 4/25
06' - 6/29, 6/30
07' - 8/05
09' - 8/23
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15' - 11/20, 11/22
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17' - 4/7
18' - 7/1, 7/3, 7/5, 8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20, 9/4
21' - 10/1, 10/2
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Was it a surprise left you got hit with?lahren said:Can they at the very least not downgrade the seats we already have? I don't think I can take going even further back. I still have PTSD from yesterday. Not sure I can take another hit. LOL."And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone."0
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