Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

Kwieneke · April 2023

It only makes sense to cancel VF for tomorrow

IlliniGuy76 · April 2023

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

Oh look at this!
"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."
They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.
I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.

Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.

Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities won

No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.

Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.

Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.

You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?

I'm not going to try to talk to you about proving a negative and the onus of evidence again. Sorry. You don't actually want to hear anything, you just want to posture and attack. Enjoy.

The "onus of evidence" is literally "PearlJamDude10" or "I'm Alive" or "MikeRocks" tossing complete speculation out there with literally zero iota as to the answer of: why. That's not posturing or attacking nor is it being crazy - they simply want to know why they've paid their membership fees for this very opportunity & the priority didn't work as intended.

LOL you did it again! You're assuming "priority didn't work as intended" when, in fact, literally the *only* two things we know about priority are:

1. that they changed the official language around it, drastically.
2. It did not seem to work the way it used to/people think it will.

These two facts combined clearly point to the inference that the way it is "intended" to work has been changed.

No where did they state that priority changed to the tune of: You may not get Priority one but someone with Priority 7 or 8 - with the same seat selections - may get seats.
Very simple question that could be answered.
I'm done here - you're wanting to continue to toss old very odd suggestions; folks are just simply trying to get an answer to something they put money into and obviously very clearly didn't work as intended.

Lol, so because they didn't explain what it changed *to*, you refuse to accept their clear statement that it changed. I don't know how some people get through life. It must be a struggle.

Ahhh, yes - pre-pubescent insults. I don't know how people get through life being as obviously miserable as you appear to be.
It's a very simple question that anyone can answer - how did someone who has paid their membership fees not get Priority 1 when people got them at Priority 7/8; why even have a priority based on numerical value at that point?
Go ahead, pal - have the last word. We all know you so desperately wish that to be the case.

machinehum · April 2023

Stoj · April 2023

aisleseats said:

Stoj said:

ZoSoTim said:

I'm glad they are going to (hopefully) fix this mess for the longtime 10C members but now I'm afraid I'll get fucked out of my aisle seats for the FTW shows. My seats for both of them aren't great but I was happy to be on the aisle. It's a small venue anyway so just being in was good enough.

Same for me/Chicago N1 & N2. I got nosebleeds but at least they're AISLE nosebleeds. I'll be rolling the dice in the other sales regardless & just keeping the best ones (if I even secure other tickets).

That felt personal.

I would never want see you with a nosebleed, good sir!

fixer123 · April 2023

cblock4life said:

Maybe now it’s easier to understand why they don’t tour as much or don’t like touring. I wouldn’t want to deal with all the anger and bad energy that comes with this entire process.

How much of it actually makes it to them though?

Edved007 · April 2023

The context from that update makes it sound like the verified fan sale will go on as scheduled tomorrow....how the hell do they even know what seats they have sell at this point outside of the Premium ones that were most likely earmarked the whole time....or there really aren't any besides a very small amount of totally garbage seats that were not allocated as part of this whole mess.

The Camaros Hood · April 2023

DEGBTI said:

jwhjr17 said:

The Camaros Hood said:

So does this mean GA won’t change for folks?

Your assigned GA spot may change

I'm know you’re joking, but everyone with GA can relax. The letter was sent out to reserved seating only. Read the title of the email

That’s just it. I have GA for one show, reserved for 3. No email. Wonder why I didn’t get it.

aisleseats · April 2023

Kwieneke said:

It only makes sense to cancel VF for tomorrow

Not if they decide now that they're gonna block all the lowers and decent seats to reallocate to 10C and only release the shitty uppers for VF.

Kwieneke · April 2023

Edved007 said:

The context from that update makes it sound like the verified fan sale will go on as scheduled tomorrow....how the hell do they even know what seats they have sell at this point outside of the Premium ones that were most likely earmarked the whole time....or there really aren't any besides a very small amount of totally garbage seats that were not allocated as part of this whole mess.

thats my question. they wouldn't know the inventory

machinehum · April 2023

DEGBTI · April 2023

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

Oh look at this!
"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."
They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.
I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.

Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.

Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities won

No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.

Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.

Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.

You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?

I'm not going to try to talk to you about proving a negative and the onus of evidence again. Sorry. You don't actually want to hear anything, you just want to posture and attack. Enjoy.

The "onus of evidence" is literally "PearlJamDude10" or "I'm Alive" or "MikeRocks" tossing complete speculation out there with literally zero iota as to the answer of: why. That's not posturing or attacking nor is it being crazy - they simply want to know why they've paid their membership fees for this very opportunity & the priority didn't work as intended.

LOL you did it again! You're assuming "priority didn't work as intended" when, in fact, literally the *only* two things we know about priority are:

1. that they changed the official language around it, drastically.
2. It did not seem to work the way it used to/people think it will.

These two facts combined clearly point to the inference that the way it is "intended" to work has been changed.

No where did they state that priority changed to the tune of: You may not get Priority one but someone with Priority 7 or 8 - with the same seat selections - may get seats.
Very simple question that could be answered.
I'm done here - you're wanting to continue to toss old very odd suggestions; folks are just simply trying to get an answer to something they put money into and obviously very clearly didn't work as intended.

Lol, so because they didn't explain what it changed *to*, you refuse to accept their clear statement that it changed. I don't know how some people get through life. It must be a struggle.

Ahhh, yes - pre-pubescent insults. I don't know how people get through life being as obviously miserable as you appear to be.
It's a very simple question that anyone can answer - how did someone who has paid their membership fees not get Priority 1 when people got them at Priority 7/8; why even have a priority based on numerical value at that point?
Go ahead, pal - have the last word. We all know you so desperately wish that to be the case.

Once again, it's been explained over and over that there is more than one way for priority to work, with examples, including examples from other fan clubs. Enjoy your choice to live in ignorance. I find learning much more enjoyable.

your one interesting cat @machinehum

jwc6160 · April 2023

The Camaros Hood said:

DEGBTI said:

jwhjr17 said:

The Camaros Hood said:

So does this mean GA won’t change for folks?

Your assigned GA spot may change

I'm know you’re joking, but everyone with GA can relax. The letter was sent out to reserved seating only. Read the title of the email

That’s just it. I have GA for one show, reserved for 3. No email. Wonder why I didn’t get it.

I only have reserved and didn't get it.

IlliniGuy76 · April 2023

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

Oh look at this!
"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."
They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.
I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.

Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.

Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities won

No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.

Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.

Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.

You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?

I'm not going to try to talk to you about proving a negative and the onus of evidence again. Sorry. You don't actually want to hear anything, you just want to posture and attack. Enjoy.

The "onus of evidence" is literally "PearlJamDude10" or "I'm Alive" or "MikeRocks" tossing complete speculation out there with literally zero iota as to the answer of: why. That's not posturing or attacking nor is it being crazy - they simply want to know why they've paid their membership fees for this very opportunity & the priority didn't work as intended.

LOL you did it again! You're assuming "priority didn't work as intended" when, in fact, literally the *only* two things we know about priority are:

1. that they changed the official language around it, drastically.
2. It did not seem to work the way it used to/people think it will.

These two facts combined clearly point to the inference that the way it is "intended" to work has been changed.

No where did they state that priority changed to the tune of: You may not get Priority one but someone with Priority 7 or 8 - with the same seat selections - may get seats.
Very simple question that could be answered.
I'm done here - you're wanting to continue to toss old very odd suggestions; folks are just simply trying to get an answer to something they put money into and obviously very clearly didn't work as intended.

Lol, so because they didn't explain what it changed *to*, you refuse to accept their clear statement that it changed. I don't know how some people get through life. It must be a struggle.

Ahhh, yes - pre-pubescent insults. I don't know how people get through life being as obviously miserable as you appear to be.
It's a very simple question that anyone can answer - how did someone who has paid their membership fees not get Priority 1 when people got them at Priority 7/8; why even have a priority based on numerical value at that point?
Go ahead, pal - have the last word. We all know you so desperately wish that to be the case.

Once again, it's been explained over and over that there is more than one way for priority to work, with examples, including examples from other fan clubs. Enjoy your choice to live in ignorance. I find learning much more enjoyable.

Except that whole fact the "language" never changed. I choose to my live my life in actual facts & then facts aren't present... actually learning why something is so. I know, novel, eh?
LAST WORD GUY! Go for it!

jdopj · April 2023

Edved007 said:

The context from that update makes it sound like the verified fan sale will go on as scheduled tomorrow....how the hell do they even know what seats they have sell at this point outside of the Premium ones that were most likely earmarked the whole time....or there really aren't any besides a very small amount of totally garbage seats that were not allocated as part of this whole mess.

They always hold thousands of tickets back.

Hagrid7575 · April 2023

Has anyone ben verified yet?

dmbolp · April 2023

I think they know the two different inventories; 10C vs TM, that doesn't change. They are going to correct senior members sitting behind newer members, is my guess. Correcting the mistake of assigning 10C seats as the process took place, not after all members are confirmed for Reserves. Or whatever the mistake was that resulted in that mixup.

Kwieneke · April 2023

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

Oh look at this!
"We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour."
They made this really clear in the announcement and FAQ, but when I pointed it out the usual suspects here all told me I was an idiot and a newb and a moron because the plain text obviously didn't say what it actually said. I was definitely misinterpreting it! Now they say clearly and officially, AGAIN, that this is exactly what's happening.
I won't hold my breath for apologies form the six of you sad sacks that know who you are.

Nobody should of been arguing against that. They did the same last tour with plenty of seats going out in the uppers. It was the low 10C seniority that was being placed up there that was the issue. And that is being corrected like it should be.

Still doesn't fix the priority 1s that didn't win when lower priorities won

No offense, but they obviously changed how priority works. They changed the official language around it for a reason. Why keep beating a dead horse? Lobby 10C if you think it's not right. Posting here over and over that it was "broken" and needs to be "fixed" is just a waste of your energy, it couldn't possibly be any more clear that they intentionally changed it.

Priority worked like it was supposed to for GA. Why are you ignoring this. RES was broken.

Sigh. You're asserting that with no evidence. It's entirely possible that the same process is used for both but because of all the variables involved, GA ended up working out something closer to how things used to work. Thousands about thousands of people went through this process and we have self-reported data for a few dozen of them. We can't possibly make assertions like the one you're making. It's nonsense.

You can't debunk it either, so why do you keep insisting on it?

I'm not going to try to talk to you about proving a negative and the onus of evidence again. Sorry. You don't actually want to hear anything, you just want to posture and attack. Enjoy.

The "onus of evidence" is literally "PearlJamDude10" or "I'm Alive" or "MikeRocks" tossing complete speculation out there with literally zero iota as to the answer of: why. That's not posturing or attacking nor is it being crazy - they simply want to know why they've paid their membership fees for this very opportunity & the priority didn't work as intended.

LOL you did it again! You're assuming "priority didn't work as intended" when, in fact, literally the *only* two things we know about priority are:

1. that they changed the official language around it, drastically.
2. It did not seem to work the way it used to/people think it will.

These two facts combined clearly point to the inference that the way it is "intended" to work has been changed.

No where did they state that priority changed to the tune of: You may not get Priority one but someone with Priority 7 or 8 - with the same seat selections - may get seats.
Very simple question that could be answered.
I'm done here - you're wanting to continue to toss old very odd suggestions; folks are just simply trying to get an answer to something they put money into and obviously very clearly didn't work as intended.

Lol, so because they didn't explain what it changed *to*, you refuse to accept their clear statement that it changed. I don't know how some people get through life. It must be a struggle.

Ahhh, yes - pre-pubescent insults. I don't know how people get through life being as obviously miserable as you appear to be.
It's a very simple question that anyone can answer - how did someone who has paid their membership fees not get Priority 1 when people got them at Priority 7/8; why even have a priority based on numerical value at that point?
Go ahead, pal - have the last word. We all know you so desperately wish that to be the case.

Once again, it's been explained over and over that there is more than one way for priority to work, with examples, including examples from other fan clubs. Enjoy your choice to live in ignorance. I find learning much more enjoyable.

Except that whole fact the "language" never changed. I choose to my live my life in actual facts & then facts aren't present... actually learning why something is so. I know, novel, eh?
LAST WORD GUY! Go for it!