Small summary of what i have seen in terms of cities and dates in the last pages for euro tour
June /July
Firenze rocks June 15th or 16th
Dublin - Marlay Park June 22th
Manchester - June 25th
London x2 - June 27th and 29th
Rock Wertcher - July 5th
Barcelona July 8th or 9th (this is just guessing no rumour about this)
Madrid Mad cool festival - July 11th or 12 th
Lisbon Nos alive festival - July 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners)
Berlinx2 - July 15th and 17th
Now if smashing pumpkins are not headliners and share dates with PJ, the iberian leg could change the order
London dates mentioned earlier in this thread and elsewhere on fb were June 28th and June 29th
2006: Leeds; 2012: Manchester 1; 2014: Leeds; 2017: London 1 (EV); 2018: Amsterdam 1, London 1, London 2; 2019: Amsterdam 1 (EV), Dublin (EV); 2022: Berlin, London 1, London 2, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam 1, Amsterdam 2; 2023: Chicago 1, Chicago 2; 2024: Manchester, London
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
My guess is it starts in LA over to Vegas then Vancouver. Then heading south and ending in Bottlerock/Sac
may vacation requested, will tell wife later..... LA to Vegas... Portland to Seattle....
I have a hunch it starts in Vancouver. I also think the second Canada show is van x2.
I think the 2nd Canada date is Toronto in September. They pretty much always play Toronto on any east coast tour.
Facemeltor said specifically a 2nd Canada show leg 1. That doesn’t mean a Toronto show is missing from leg 2. I feel like there may be a couple of shows missing from leg 2 in the rumors.
I didn't take what he said to refer to any specific leg of the tour. He just said "2 dates north of the border" were missing when someone posted a list of the locations he confirmed.
I guess, but I feel like the above couple of posts from him were a continuation, they happened with very short time between them.
Like missing a pair of hometown shows in May… and a couple north of the border. I took that as May. I’ve also heard it’s Van x 2, however that didn’t come from facemeltor.
1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15) 2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30) 2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9) 2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25) 2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24) 2010: Boston, MA (5/17) 2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4) 2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25) 2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7) 2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4) 2022: Camden, NJ (9/14) 2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
Good list based on rumors. I think someone said an unknown city in Italy too near Firenze I assume.
1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15) 2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30) 2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9) 2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25) 2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24) 2010: Boston, MA (5/17) 2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4) 2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25) 2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7) 2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4) 2022: Camden, NJ (9/14) 2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
Good list based on rumors. I think someone said an unknown city in Italy too near Firenze I assume.
yeah forgot that one
Updated EU Tour :
June /July
Firenze rocks - June 16th
Unknown Italian City - Date Unknown
Dublin - Marlay Park June 22th
Manchester - June 25th
London - June 27th and 29th or June 28th and 29th
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
Very unlikely. They made bank by sticking many of us with 10C seats in the 300's just on the gamble for GA tix. Played out perfectly for the band/ticket sales.
"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
Good list based on rumors. I think someone said an unknown city in Italy too near Firenze I assume.
yeah forgot that one
Updated EU Tour :
June /July
Firenze rocks - June 16th
Unknown Italian City - Date Unknown
Dublin - Marlay Park June 22th
Manchester - June 25th
London - June 27th and 29th or June 28th and 29th
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
What are the guesses for a second Italian gig. Pearl jam on Italy would be high on my list
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
Very unlikely. They made bank by sticking many of us with 10C seats in the 300's just on the gamble for GA tix. Played out perfectly for the band/ticket sales.
Is it harder to get GA in America than it is in Europe?
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
Good list based on rumors. I think someone said an unknown city in Italy too near Firenze I assume.
yeah forgot that one
Updated EU Tour :
June /July
Firenze rocks - June 16th
Unknown Italian City - Date Unknown
Dublin - Marlay Park June 22th
Manchester - June 25th
London - June 27th and 29th or June 28th and 29th
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
What are the guesses for a second Italian gig. Pearl jam on Italy would be high on my list
Verona , Milan , Roma , Trieste , Pistoia
Many possibilities for the second italian date , hell with such a long gap between Firenze and Dublin might be a double date
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
Good list based on rumors. I think someone said an unknown city in Italy too near Firenze I assume.
yeah forgot that one
Updated EU Tour :
June /July
Firenze rocks - June 16th
Unknown Italian City - Date Unknown
Dublin - Marlay Park June 22th
Manchester - June 25th
London - June 27th and 29th or June 28th and 29th
Berlin - Heard 2 different double dates from 2 different sources (Jul 1 and 2 or Jul 3 and 4)
Belgium (Rock Wertcher Festival) - July 5th (heard July 4th)
Barcelona - 2 dates (unknown dates)
Madrid (Mad cool Festival) - July 10th/11th/12th/13th
Lisbon (Nos alive Festival) - July 11/th or 13th (if smashing pumkins are headliners) Madrid and lisbon could change days between them due to logistics
Berlin - July 15th and 17th
What are the guesses for a second Italian gig. Pearl jam on Italy would be high on my list
Verona , Milan , Roma , Trieste , Pistoia
Many possibilities for the second italian date , hell with such a long gap between Firenze and Dublin might be a double date
I don't fancy Firenze cos of the heat. Would go to any of those cities though.
if berlin is in early july i can see them doing another city(like copenhagen) and then close the tour with a double date in amsterdam a week after Lisbon
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
I think it’s unlikely. Now that they’ve made the change to the GA or reserved option, I don’t see them reverting back to the old system. The new method allows them to sell more tickets during the presale and dissuades people from purchasing extra 10c accounts solely for the purpose of attempting to score GA tickets. I’m also guessing that the GA or reserved option allowed 10c to secure a greater number of tickets for 10c members, since they could guarantee a higher number of tickets sold during the presale. The DMB fan club made the same change a few years ago and I don’t see them going back either.
I renewed my membership for nothing :( not interested at all in seating option just in ga advantage to be closer to the stage
It works different in Europe to the US. In Europe the 10c seating allocation is much smaller and the GA is full floor, as a result, you're far more likely to get GA .
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
Very unlikely. They made bank by sticking many of us with 10C seats in the 300's just on the gamble for GA tix. Played out perfectly for the band/ticket sales.
Is it harder to get GA in America than it is in Europe?
Honestly, I'm not sure. Based on my tr a ck record of scoring GA in America, I'd guess it is at least similar. The only GA I have ever scored is for Wrigley in 2018. That GA was enormous!
"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
Can someone post the US Dates that facemeltor alluded to and tag me? Thx in advance
"And the young, they can lose hope 'Cause they can't see beyond today The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey Constant recoil Sometimes life don't leave you alone."
Can someone post the US Dates that facemeltor alluded to and tag me? Thx in advance
Only specific dates given were Wrigley August 29 & 31. Said Missoula and Indy before Wrigley. Fenway, MSG, Camden and Baltimore after. May was Seattle ×2, Vegas ×2, LA x2, Portland, Sacramento, and Bottlerock. Plus 2 north of the border mixed in somewhere/sometime. @cmikehelton
Summerfest 7/8/95 Missoula 6/20/98 Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98 Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03 Alpine Valley 6/21/03 Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06 Grand Rapids 5/19/06 Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10 Alpine Valley x2 2011 Wrigley 2013 Milwaukee 14 Telluride 16
Let the unknown Italian show be Verona, and that will be your spicy one ;p
Pistoia square is the place..
Is this for real? I have no idea where that is but the way you dropped it, sounds like it’s something you know?
1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15) 2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30) 2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9) 2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25) 2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24) 2010: Boston, MA (5/17) 2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4) 2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25) 2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7) 2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4) 2022: Camden, NJ (9/14) 2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
I think it’s unlikely. Now that they’ve made the change to the GA or reserved option, I don’t see them reverting back to the old system. The new method allows them to sell more tickets during the presale and dissuades people from purchasing extra 10c accounts solely for the purpose of attempting to score GA tickets. I’m also guessing that the GA or reserved option allowed 10c to secure a greater number of tickets for 10c members, since they could guarantee a higher number of tickets sold during the presale. The DMB fan club made the same change a few years ago and I don’t see them going back either.
I renewed my membership for nothing :( not interested at all in seating option just in ga advantage to be closer to the stage
It works different in Europe to the US. In Europe the 10c seating allocation is much smaller and the GA is full floor, as a result, you're far more likely to get GA .
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
Very unlikely. They made bank by sticking many of us with 10C seats in the 300's just on the gamble for GA tix. Played out perfectly for the band/ticket sales.
Is it harder to get GA in America than it is in Europe?
Honestly, I'm not sure. Based on my tr a ck record of scoring GA in America, I'd guess it is at least similar. The only GA I have ever scored is for Wrigley in 2018. That GA was enormous!
Same for me..my only GA was the 2018 thunderstorm show
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
Very unlikely. They made bank by sticking many of us with 10C seats in the 300's just on the gamble for GA tix. Played out perfectly for the band/ticket sales.
I had some of the worst seats in the arenas for Chicago and Austin. No trouble unloading them on F2F. The thing is I got six pairs of tickets and 5 of them just went right on F2F because they sucked. I was 100% fine getting shut out for GA and then finding tickets elsewhere.
Is there any hope that we can get GA only added back to the fanclub tickets for this tour?
I think it’s unlikely. Now that they’ve made the change to the GA or reserved option, I don’t see them reverting back to the old system. The new method allows them to sell more tickets during the presale and dissuades people from purchasing extra 10c accounts solely for the purpose of attempting to score GA tickets. I’m also guessing that the GA or reserved option allowed 10c to secure a greater number of tickets for 10c members, since they could guarantee a higher number of tickets sold during the presale. The DMB fan club made the same change a few years ago and I don’t see them going back either.
I renewed my membership for nothing :( not interested at all in seating option just in ga advantage to be closer to the stage
It works different in Europe to the US. In Europe the 10c seating allocation is much smaller and the GA is full floor, as a result, you're far more likely to get GA .
In a location where there are 2 shows, what is the best way to prioritize the lottery if you want seated tickets for both shows (but would stand if picked?
For example. Night 1 - Seats Night 1 - GA Night 2 - Seats Night 2 - GA
or
Night 1 - Seats Night 2 - Seats Night 1 - GA Night 2 - GA
Comments
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Missoula 6/20/98
Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03
Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
Many possibilities for the second italian date , hell with such a long gap between Firenze and Dublin might be a double date
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone."
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
@cmikehelton
Missoula 6/20/98
Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03
Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Its 32km from Florence
For example.
Night 1 - Seats
Night 1 - GA
Night 2 - Seats
Night 2 - GA
or
Night 1 - Seats
Night 2 - Seats
Night 1 - GA
Night 2 - GA