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  • 2023
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    oh, you mean at the ballot. I disagree. 
    We shall see. He is a master at popularity contests, which is what the elections have become.  I do not like it, but I think Trump will win. Too many lazy leftists that do not vote.
    um...2020 ring any bells? lazy leftists? wtf is that? haha
    Fair point. It just seems like he can get momentum but she cannot.
    she had significant momentum out of the gate, but that has predictably levelled off. Your country will seemingly almost always be split down the middle from here on out, no matter who the candidates are. You guys have been polarized to hell and most of the voting block who still pay attention have their political leanings as part of their personal identity now. And the rest are exhausted with politics. You will likely never see another blowout like Reagan/Carter or Reagan/Mondale in our lifetimes. If ever. 

    That is me. I am an attorney and so disenfranchised with US politics. I feel like the left focuses on making money while the right actually votes. What I hate is that the election comes down to the campaigns and ads in the last three weeks.
    i think you mean the right focuses on making money.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    wow, this fuckin guy. there is no bottom. why didn't he just come out and tell the guy he did not want his vote?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    Weaving together his explanation of something or struggling. Take your pick.
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,796
    Get_Right said:
    oh, you mean at the ballot. I disagree. 
    We shall see. He is a master at popularity contests, which is what the elections have become.  I do not like it, but I think Trump will win. Too many lazy leftists that do not vote.
    I thought he lost the Popular vote the last 2 elections?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    2023
    Have you no shame? Have you no shame, POOTWH? I must admit that I laughed at a couple of these comments because of the absurdity of the mental image I conjured up. Maybe this lends itself partly to why POOTWH will win, it’s just another example of “he doesn’t give a shit,” and “he speaks his mind,” and that appeals to the less couth voter. Or it’s an indication that he knows this election is in the bag, his bag, and he’s dog whistling who is on his enemies list? Can’t really tell. But maybe Andrew Dice Clay came out of retirement?

    Trump lobs insults at Al Smith dinner, Harris campaigns in Wisconsin

    Former president Donald Trump gave an insult-laden speech at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation dinner on Thursday evening in which he targeted President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, former House speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer and others. Harris declined an invitation to speak in person at the event, which raises money for Catholic charities, but she appeared in a prerecorded video. Earlier Thursday, Harris criticized Trump’s comment Wednesday at a town hall in which he said Jan. 6, 2021 — when a mob of Trump supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol — was “a day of love.” “The American people are exhausted with his gaslighting … We are ready to turn the page,” she said at a campaign rally in La Crosse, Wis.

    Trump left the stage to a mix of cheers and boos after speaking to an audience he acknowledged was divided for and against him. He directed off-color jokes at prominent Democrats, including a profanity and multiple digs at transgender people. He avoided any self-deprecated humor, instead portraying himself as badly mistreated.

    Trump swore at the dinner while disparaging former New York mayor Bill DeBlasio. “I don’t give a s--- if this is comedy or not,” he said in the presence of the cardinal.

    Trump declined to make any jokes at his own expense. “Tradition holds I need to tell a few self-deprecating jokes,” he said. “So here it goes: Nope! I’ve got nothing, there is nothing to say.”

    In another put-down to transgender people, Trump said of Harris’s running mate: “I used to think the Democrats were crazy for saying men have periods, but then I met Tim Walz.”

    Trump insulted Harris’s intelligence and speaking ability.

    “I didn’t like Biden very much and now I like him quite a bit. … When we hopefully win, dispose of her, I’ll like her a lot, but right now I can’t stand her,” Trump said.

    He went on to make a dig against transgender people and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, saying if Harris loses he would still have a chance to become the first woman president.

    Trump said he has suffered more than Abraham Lincoln, who presided over the Civil War and died of an assassination. “There’s never been a president that has been treated so badly as me,” he said.

    Trump mocked Harris’s laugh, mispronounced her name, and said she was missing the event to receive Communion from Gretchen Whitmer, the Democratic governor of Michigan who apologized for a video that a Catholic organization said disrespected the ritual.

    Trump said Harris’s absence was “deeply disrespectful” to the Catholic community, receiving some applause. He joked that the last Democrat to miss the Al Smith dinner was Walter Mondale, who lost 49 states.

    Trump suggested New York Mayor Eric Adams was indicted because he criticized the Biden administration. Adams was charged last month with bribery and campaign finance violations.

    Trump is onstage now, talking about how he attended this dinner with his father before he became a presidential candidate. Trump began his speech by wishing New York Mayor Eric Adams “good luck with everything,” a reference to his indictment. “You’re going to be okay,” Trump said.

    Harris appeared at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation dinner in a prerecorded video featuring actress Molly Shannon playing her famous “Saturday Night Live” character Mary Katherine Gallagher. In the video, Shannon urged Harris not to use the occasion to insult Catholics. Harris said she never would anywhere, adding, “That would be like criticizing Detroit in Detroit” — a swipe atTrump’s speech there last week.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/17/2024-election-campaign-updates-harris-trump/

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
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    2023
    Yup, it’s not a cult but it tracks. And an hour and five in, he’s lost a third of his audience of 2,700. Wow! What a rally! Drawing huge crowds, keeping them engaged, bigger and bigger! Just wow!

    He made me cry,” Miller said. “I cried when he was speaking about making changes. You know, closing the border, making changes. If Kamala wins we’re so screwed, because she can’t make up her mind about anything. It just made me cry because he’s giving up so much. He doesn’t have to do this for us. Like, you know what I mean. He has all the money, but he is still getting shot at, and people saying horrible things about him. But he’s doing it because he wants to make changes for America, and it was just so emotional.”

    So. Why leave?

    I’m actually leaving early because my phone is dying and I have a Tesla so I can’t get in. It’s really upsetting, because it meant a lot to be here, and I just can’t get in my car.”

    By 10.05, as Trump was talking about how important it was for police officers to be shielded from civil suits in misconduct cases for “doing something good”, Trump had lost about a third of his audience.

    https://apple.news/AXmoueBiBQomVi4N0Ve_7ow


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,195
    cutz said:
    Get_Right said:
    oh, you mean at the ballot. I disagree. 
    We shall see. He is a master at popularity contests, which is what the elections have become.  I do not like it, but I think Trump will win. Too many lazy leftists that do not vote.
    I thought he lost the Popular vote the last 2 elections?

    he in fact did just that....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    Ha, ha, ha, all fun and games and nothing but laughs. “Central casting” can replace the Department of Education. What a joke.
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    mickeyrat said:
    "If you like [trump] you're motherf'ing racist" 

    Good for Snoop.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    2023
    300%? Why so low? Let me know when Kamala rips off the government to enrich herself, will ya? Why does POOTWH hate America? Can’t wait for the hemming and hawing.

    Trump hotel overcharged Secret Service, report by House Democrats finds

    Trump’s D.C. hotel charged the Secret Service more than normal government rates — and sometimes charged the agency more than it did other patrons, House Democrats found.

    During Donald Trump’s presidency, his D.C. hotel charged the U.S. Secret Service 300 percent or more above standard government rateson multiple occasions, and at times charged the government agency more than it did other patrons — including a Chinese business and members of a foreign royal family, according to a new report released Friday by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.

    The authors of the report, which is based on Trump International Hotel room records fromSeptember 2017 and August 2018, argue that Trump violated the Constitution’s foreign and domestic emoluments clauses, which were designed to prevent the president and other federal officials from enriching themselves at taxpayer expense.

    The House Democrats’ report cites several previously undisclosed instances in which Trump International Hotel charged the Secret Service rates that were not only above the normal government per diem rate but above rates it charged other patrons. The report is based on records Democrats obtained from Trump’s former accounting firm, Mazars USA, along with corresponding special waivers authorizing the Secret Service to make payments above normal government rates.

    When Eric Trump visited the hotel on Feb. 22, 2018, two of the rooms the Secret Service rented were charged at $895 each, 450 percent more than the government rate, according to the report. The same evening, more than 100 rooms at the 263-room hotel were rented out at rates lower than $895, “including at least one room rented out for just $150,” the Democrats found.

    That night, four rooms for a “Sheikh Al Thani Family Extended Stay” were charged at rates far less than what the Secret Service was charged, according to the report. The Al Thanis, who are a Qatari royal family, were charged $280 for three rooms and $490 for one room.

    The Democratic report did not reveal the total number of rooms rented by the Secret Service, which is considered sensitive law enforcement information.Spokespeople for the Secret Service, the Trump campaign and the Trump Organization did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    During another visit by Eric Trump to the D.C. hotel at the end of the month, on Feb. 27, 2018, the agency paid for a $595 room, according to the report. That rate is far above the government-approved nightly rate for a hotel in D.C., which is usually $195 to $240, and varies from month to month based on average lodging rates in the city. That same evening, two rooms were charged to the Al Thani family at rates of less than $595.

    The Washington Post has extensively reported on expenses the Secret Service incurred at Trump properties while agents were protecting him and his family during his time in the White House.

    In 2022, The Post reported that U.S. taxpayers paid Trump’s business at least $1.4 million for Secret Service agents’ stays at Trump properties for his and his family’s protection. Receipts and invoices previously obtained by The Post have highlighted not just high charges for rooms at the luxury properties but additional fees, including a $1,300 “furniture removal charge” to the Secret Service in 2018 at Trump’s Turnberry resort in Scotland.

    Eric Trump, the Trump Organization’s executive vice president, has repeatedly disputed claims that the family business profited from Secret Service stays at Trump properties and said that the company often gave the Secret Service agents the hotel rooms free of charge or at steeply discounted rates.

    However, piecemeal expense records congressional investigators have obtained over the past four years have contradicted Eric Trump’s claims.

    Before Republicans took control of Congress in early 2023, Mazars had begun producing documents in response to a congressional subpoena, turning over a subset of records to Oversight Committee Democrats, led by Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.). But when Republicans assumed control of the House, the new Oversight Committee chairman, James Comer (R-Ky.), ended the congressional investigation into Trump’s alleged violations of the emoluments clause, declining to enforce a court-ordered agreement that Mazars produce evidence related to Trump’s business dealings.

    Despite Republican control of the House, Democrats have sought to train public attention on the emoluments issue as Trump has sought to regain the presidency. The money that Trump and his family businesses took in from government sources while he was in the White House — despite his promises to “drain the swamp” — create “the appearance of corruption and pay-to-play,” Democrats argue in the report.

    The latest findings are a follow-up of a staff report released by the Democratic staff on the Oversight Committee earlier this year that documented $7.8 million Trump received from at least 20 foreign governments, including China, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, through just four of his businesses over a two-year period while he was president. House Democrats’ new report is based on a single set of records provided to the committee for a single Trump property over an 11-month period, representing what Democrats estimate is only a fraction of the money his company brought in from the Secret Service over four years in office.

    The report homes in on room charges footed by the Secret Service, “which Donald Trump treated as his own personal government ATM, extracting from it exorbitant rates his hotel imposed while Secret Service agents protected him, his children, and even foreign leaders,” the Democratic investigators allege.

    In one such instance, during a Nov. 28, 2017, stay by Eric Trump and his wife Lara Trump, room records show the Secret Service rented several rooms at a $600 rate — 300 percent more than the $201 normal government rate that month — while a dozen rooms rented to a Chinese company, Inner Mongolia Yitai Coal Co., Ltd., rented for $338.85 each. According to the report, the records also show that more than 80 rooms were rented out that evening at rates less than $600 per room.

    Earlier that month, on Nov. 8, 2017, two of the rooms rented by Secret Service to accommodate a visit by Donald Trump Jr. were charged at the rate of $1,185 — five times the per diem rate of $201. That same evening, however, more than 100 rooms were rented out at $125 each. An additional 100 rooms were charged to the “LOC Software R2CON” conference for $170 each, committee investigators found.

    Investigators also identified 16 examples of individuals who “made some or all of their expenditures at the hotel while they were federal or state officials,” including eight ambassadors, three individuals appointed by Trump to be federal judges, two governors, one delegation from a state legislature, and two executive branch officials. The payments from the 16 individuals totaled $163,095.23 over that period.

    The records produced by Mazars to the committee do not specify the sources of payment for the rooms, but investigators argue that any payments federal or state officials made to Trump’s businesses using state or federal taxpayer funds would represent violations of the domestic emoluments clause.

    House Republicans dismissed the report as misleading and outdated, criticizing Democrats for what they characterized as their lack of oversight of the Biden administration.

    “Ranking Member Raskin and Democrats continue to expose their hypocrisy as they suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome,” Comer said in a statement. “Today’s report is more recycled garbage from the Democrats’ fruitless and close to a decade-long investigation of President Trump.”

    The Trump Organization sold the D.C. hotel to a Miami-based investment fund in 2022. Trump’s remaining portfolio of hotels and golf courses could continue to attract controversy over spending by foreign governments and corporate entities during a second Trump presidency. But some of his new, post presidency business ventures — such as his cryptocurrency enterprise — may give rise to new and unprecedented conflicts of interest for Trump in a second term.

    “While we still do not know the full extent of the unconstitutional payments Trump pocketed while fleecing American taxpayers, one thing is certain: we must put legal barriers in place now to prevent the kind of rip-off corruption our Founding Fathers so strongly opposed,” Raskin said in a statement.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/18/trump-hotel-secret-service-overcharging/

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  • njhaley1njhaley1 Posts: 736
    So....what's everyone doing?  Reading the redacted report?

    I've been swimming a lot lately, bought myself a pair of swimming headphones and downloaded a bunch of albums onto it.  Hadn't listened to The Wall in full since...college, I guess.  I knew it was a metaphor for a lot of stuff going on these days, but "In The Flesh" came on and man if it didn't remind me of a Trump rally.  

    https://youtu.be/j7VBbWuC_zM?feature=shared
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,478
    2023
    Whoa, you can't get in your Tesla if your phone's dead!?! That Musk - he's something else.
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    njhaley1 said:

    old apparently and may or may not be true. but funny nonetheless
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    mickeyrat said:
    njhaley1 said:

    old apparently and may or may not be true. but funny nonetheless
    Yes, from the Al Smith dinner 5yrs ago.  
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    mrussel1 said:
    But did you see how Kamala did in that Brett Baier interview? Didn’t answer any questions and just pointed to POOTWH. Plus, POOTWH is just speaking his mind here and isn’t afraid to say it.
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