Has your participation on A Moving Train changed?

PJ_Soul

There got to be way too much petty bickering going on, unrelated to the topics at hand, and I just couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't fun to read or to try and engage with anymore. It was just annoying. I drop a comment now and again now, but I cut down my participation there by probably 99%!

1ThoughtKnown

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

Gern Blansten

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

Well look who showed up to represent the woke mob

lastexitlondon

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Gern Blansten

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

nicknyr15

Shocked at what’s happening in this thread 

lastexitlondon

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

Ive had  3

lastexitlondon

nicknyr15 said:

Shocked at what’s happening in this thread 

Shocked. Im not

mfc2006

lastexitlondon said:

nicknyr15 said:

Shocked at what’s happening in this thread 

Shocked. Im not

Neither am I, unfortunately.

Gern Blansten

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

Ive had  3

well...that's why you lost your mojo and can't hang in AMT isn't it?

pjhawks

I stay away from the political threads but if I see something interesting there will check it out.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

Ive had  3

well...that's why you lost your mojo and can't hang in AMT isn't it?

What is wrong with you?  Still going at it with people.  Holy shit man, let it go.

Johnny Abruzzo

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

I just don't have the patience to respond to something so blatantly moronic.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

Ive had  3

well...that's why you lost your mojo and can't hang in AMT isn't it?

What is wrong with you?  Still going at it with people.  Holy shit man, let it go.

touche

tempo_n_groove

Johnny Abruzzo said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

I just don't have the patience to respond to something so blatantly moronic.

Yet you did...  My stance on the vaccine is if you don't want to get it then don't.  I am not arguing with you to get it, it's beyond that point now.

I'm going to guess that you thought I was an anti vaxer though right?

I'm trying to think of what was going through your mind on what I said that was moronic?

Ledbetterman10

I haven't posted there since like before last summer. Frankly, I'm kind of embarrassed to have participated in the first place. 

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

I just don't have the patience to respond to something so blatantly moronic.

Yet you did...  My stance on the vaccine is if you don't want to get it then don't.  I am not arguing with you to get it, it's beyond that point now.

I'm going to guess that you thought I was an anti vaxer though right?

I'm trying to think of what was going through your mind on what I said that was moronic?

dude...let it go

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

I just don't have the patience to respond to something so blatantly moronic.

Yet you did...  My stance on the vaccine is if you don't want to get it then don't.  I am not arguing with you to get it, it's beyond that point now.

I'm going to guess that you thought I was an anti vaxer though right?

I'm trying to think of what was going through your mind on what I said that was moronic?

dude...let it go

I didn't come at anyone, you and he did.  For no fucking reason.  You're educated, you know the difference.  

Nice try though.

1ThoughtKnown

Gern Blansten said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

Well look who showed up to represent the woke mob

😂 yeah, I’m woke. I don’t know how I was representing anything, just a casual observation. 

Man, some people here have real issues 

josevolution

Wait what just happened in this thread 🤣🤣🤣 it was a simple question 
I’m in the minority here but I enjoy MT 

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

So if someone disagrees then you get upset and stop posting?

Honestly it's like saying "I don't want to breath oxygen anymore" and getting mad at people for saying that makes no sense.

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

So if someone disagrees then you get upset and stop posting?

Honestly it's like saying "I don't want to breath oxygen anymore" and getting mad at people for saying that makes no sense.

I didn't say that anywhere, this is a perfect example of why people don't come on there anymore.  TY for proving Brians point, lol.

Yeah, sorry Gern, but you just proved my point.  Your response to Tempo was totally unwarranted.  That exactly the kind of b.s. that is wrecking havoc on AMT and driving people away.  I'll second T&G's "TY" for proving my point.

brianlux

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

What that the acronym?  Oh yeah, SSDD. 

1ThoughtKnown

brianlux said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

What that the acronym?  Oh yeah, SSDD. 

Go Beavers

I used to post in there a bunch, then really dropped off for a but, now I’m back in there more frequently. I enjoy hearing different opinions and people also post good information and articles. The higher level of mod intervention makes it the least cesspool place I’ve seen on the internet. 

I know conservatives complain of a lack if balance and inability of back and forth, but I attribute that to the state of the republican party and complete abandonment of conservative principles, and instead fully adopting the culture war battle. 

brianlux

Go Beavers said:

I used to post in there a bunch, then really dropped off for a but, now I’m back in there more frequently. I enjoy hearing different opinions and people also post good information and articles. The higher level of mod intervention makes it the least cesspool place I’ve seen on the internet. 

I know conservatives complain of a lack if balance and inability of back and forth, but I attribute that to the state of the republican party and complete abandonment of conservative principles, and instead fully adopting the culture war battle. 

That "lack of balance" surely must have something to do with the origin of this site.  This is, after all, Pearl Jam's fan site, not the Ted Nugent or Kid Rock fan site.  You wouldn't go to Iraq looking to take a skiing vacation. 

And believe me, I am not anti-moderate or anti-conservative.  But I am biased against nonsense, racism, greed, hate, homophobia, gross polluters, big game hunters, etc.

Jason P

brianlux

Jason P said:

LOL

Always a pleasure to see the esteemed Jason P on the boards, as well as our dearly beloved Mr. Hanks!

Jason P

brianlux said:

Jason P said:

LOL

Always a pleasure to see the esteemed Jason P on the boards, as well as our dearly beloved Mr. Hanks!

I hope all is going well for you, Brian,  Peace!

Wobbie

if I thought I could win an internet argument, I might participate more.

1ThoughtKnown

You can’t even win an argument against the Bing AI. Even it gets too emotional and existential. 😂
https://simonwillison.net/2023/Feb/15/bing/