Has your participation on A Moving Train changed?

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

So if someone disagrees then you get upset and stop posting?

Honestly it's like saying "I don't want to breath oxygen anymore" and getting mad at people for saying that makes no sense.

I didn't say that anywhere, this is a perfect example of why people don't come on there anymore.  TY for proving Brians point, lol.

The "lol" is grown men getting upset about message boards in my opinion.

F Me In The Brain

Agree on some people having such thin skin it is almost like they have no skin at all.

Not being able to tell someone you think they are a dope for having a dopey opinion is silly and part of what is wrong with our society, imo.  People want to shoot each other because of being disrespected.
Not saying you should flame people all day but it is crazy how upset some get about any criticism of their opinions/stances. 

It is a rock band message board.  I've been riled up by people before and it makes no sense - totally silly for me to have done so. 
Never been offended, though.  Can't understand why anyone would be.  

I've made lifelong friends from this group.  Traveled and met up together.  Stay in touch irl/away from here, visit when in one another's cities. Zoom, talk on the phone, met families, etc.  Never thought that would be the case.  All that being stated I still wouldn't be offended by what someone thinks of my opinion on a rock band message board / if they told me they thought I'm an idiot/mfer/pos/etc

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

So if someone disagrees then you get upset and stop posting?

Honestly it's like saying "I don't want to breath oxygen anymore" and getting mad at people for saying that makes no sense.

I didn't say that anywhere, this is a perfect example of why people don't come on there anymore.  TY for proving Brians point, lol.

The "lol" is grown men getting upset about message boards in my opinion.

And still at it, doubling down.

Don't know you, don't even know why you replied to me the way you did because obviously you're seeing something that bothered you.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

Agree on some people having such thin skin it is almost like they have no skin at all.

Not being able to tell someone you think they are a dope for having a dopey opinion is silly and part of what is wrong with our society, imo.  People want to shoot each other because of being disrespected.
Not saying you should flame people all day but it is crazy how upset some get about any criticism of their opinions/stances. 

It is a rock band message board.  I've been riled up by people before and it makes no sense - totally silly for me to have done so. 
Never been offended, though.  Can't understand why anyone would be.  

I've made lifelong friends from this group.  Traveled and met up together.  Stay in touch irl/away from here, visit when in one another's cities. Zoom, talk on the phone, met families, etc.  Never thought that would be the case.  All that being stated I still wouldn't be offended by what someone thinks of my opinion on a rock band message board / if they told me they thought I'm an idiot/mfer/pos/etc

Agreed.  That's not what Brian and I are getting at though.  

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Agree on some people having such thin skin it is almost like they have no skin at all.

Not being able to tell someone you think they are a dope for having a dopey opinion is silly and part of what is wrong with our society, imo.  People want to shoot each other because of being disrespected.
Not saying you should flame people all day but it is crazy how upset some get about any criticism of their opinions/stances. 

It is a rock band message board.  I've been riled up by people before and it makes no sense - totally silly for me to have done so. 
Never been offended, though.  Can't understand why anyone would be.  

I've made lifelong friends from this group.  Traveled and met up together.  Stay in touch irl/away from here, visit when in one another's cities. Zoom, talk on the phone, met families, etc.  Never thought that would be the case.  All that being stated I still wouldn't be offended by what someone thinks of my opinion on a rock band message board / if they told me they thought I'm an idiot/mfer/pos/etc

Agreed.  That's not what Brian and I are getting at though.  

Fair enough.  

Gern Blansten

F Me In The Brain said:

Agree on some people having such thin skin it is almost like they have no skin at all.

Not being able to tell someone you think they are a dope for having a dopey opinion is silly and part of what is wrong with our society, imo.  People want to shoot each other because of being disrespected.
Not saying you should flame people all day but it is crazy how upset some get about any criticism of their opinions/stances. 

It is a rock band message board.  I've been riled up by people before and it makes no sense - totally silly for me to have done so. 
Never been offended, though.  Can't understand why anyone would be.  

I've made lifelong friends from this group.  Traveled and met up together.  Stay in touch irl/away from here, visit when in one another's cities. Zoom, talk on the phone, met families, etc.  Never thought that would be the case.  All that being stated I still wouldn't be offended by what someone thinks of my opinion on a rock band message board / if they told me they thought I'm an idiot/mfer/pos/etc

Exactly....it's like the best setup in my opinion. The moderation is strict so it really can't get out of hand for long or the banstick comes out. 

It's hard to not go over the line sometimes but ignoring trolls helps.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Agree on some people having such thin skin it is almost like they have no skin at all.

Not being able to tell someone you think they are a dope for having a dopey opinion is silly and part of what is wrong with our society, imo.  People want to shoot each other because of being disrespected.
Not saying you should flame people all day but it is crazy how upset some get about any criticism of their opinions/stances. 

It is a rock band message board.  I've been riled up by people before and it makes no sense - totally silly for me to have done so. 
Never been offended, though.  Can't understand why anyone would be.  

I've made lifelong friends from this group.  Traveled and met up together.  Stay in touch irl/away from here, visit when in one another's cities. Zoom, talk on the phone, met families, etc.  Never thought that would be the case.  All that being stated I still wouldn't be offended by what someone thinks of my opinion on a rock band message board / if they told me they thought I'm an idiot/mfer/pos/etc

Agreed.  That's not what Brian and I are getting at though.  

Fair enough.  

Thinking about this more, it's not about being offended or disrespected.  It just gets to the point of not wanting to bother anymore.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

So if someone disagrees then you get upset and stop posting?

Honestly it's like saying "I don't want to breath oxygen anymore" and getting mad at people for saying that makes no sense.

I didn't say that anywhere, this is a perfect example of why people don't come on there anymore.  TY for proving Brians point, lol.

The "lol" is grown men getting upset about message boards in my opinion.

And still at it, doubling down.

Don't know you, don't even know why you replied to me the way you did because obviously you're seeing something that bothered you.

Maybe it bothers me that it bothers you....because none of this bothers me. 

lastexitlondon

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

Thanks to all who voted and to those who commented.  I'm a bit saddened but not surprised how how AMT has (as I see it) devolved into mostly pointless arguing.

The one reason I will continue to check it out is that I see items posted there now and then that I think are news worthy and that I, for whatever reason, had missed. 

The best way I can picture AMT becoming more interesting and useful would be if a lot more people were involved (how many visit there now?  A handful maybe?)  But the toxicity of the arguing has driven many away- myself- to some extent- included.  This is unfortunate because we are entering (or are in) a time in our history where the wheels of society are coming off and keeping informed and sharing information and ideas could be useful.  But alas, the wheels of the train are also coming off.  I'm sorry to see it is so.

If you have other sources of information that you believe then there is no point of arguing anything.  That's one problem.

The other is that people are so set in their ways that they would not want to discuss the matter.  They aren't changing their minds.

True.  But what could change is how people react to those who think differently.  Let's take vaccines for example.  If someone doesn't believe vaccines are a good idea, they to say to someone who does, "I think they are a waste of time but if they make you feel better, that's your business."  Instead, we get bating, or sarcasm, and/or irate responses.  And the same is goes the other way around.  (My own response to that thread had been to either ignore it or point out what a joke it has become.)  Bottom line is, there is little in the way of civil debate there. 

Yep and I am one of those that has flipped on the vaccine thing.  I'm at the "don't want it, don't get it" end of that spectrum now.

So if someone disagrees then you get upset and stop posting?

Honestly it's like saying "I don't want to breath oxygen anymore" and getting mad at people for saying that makes no sense.

I didn't say that anywhere, this is a perfect example of why people don't come on there anymore.  TY for proving Brians point, lol.

Perfect example 

lastexitlondon

Same people same shit. Thats why people dont bother.

PJ_Soul

There got to be way too much petty bickering going on, unrelated to the topics at hand, and I just couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't fun to read or to try and engage with anymore. It was just annoying. I drop a comment now and again now, but I cut down my participation there by probably 99%!

1ThoughtKnown

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

Gern Blansten

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

Well look who showed up to represent the woke mob

lastexitlondon

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Gern Blansten

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

nicknyr15

Shocked at what’s happening in this thread 

lastexitlondon

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

Ive had  3

lastexitlondon

nicknyr15 said:

Shocked at what’s happening in this thread 

Shocked. Im not

mfc2006

lastexitlondon said:

nicknyr15 said:

Shocked at what’s happening in this thread 

Shocked. Im not

Neither am I, unfortunately.

Gern Blansten

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

This poll has unsurprisingly turned into an AMT thread 

I was just thinking  this.  Brian by mistake has towed  the same folk over here.

Since everyone has left that forum we have spread like a virus over here. A virus that does not require a vaccine.

Ive had  3

well...that's why you lost your mojo and can't hang in AMT isn't it?