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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.

    Great post, Darth! 
    I think we could all learn something from what you said.  To look at how we respond to others and assess how useful our approach is would help make AMT have more purpose and usefulness.  I know I have had my moments of being egregiously confrontational and judgemental.  So much so one time, that when Trump was elected I said something that I later saw as so inappropriate that I banned myself from all PJ forums for six months.  How I felt was not wrong, but how I expressed my feelings was way off base.
    So yeah, we can all do better.
    Thanks for your excellent post!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 



    Another fine post!  You must know I'm an anti-oil dude but I hope any discussion I might have had on that topic with you was civil.  I may disagree with folks on some things,  but I want to be at least decent enough to not sling vitriol and be a prick myself.  If I did so, I humbly apologize. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • brianlux said:
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 



    Another fine post!  You must know I'm an anti-oil dude but I hope any discussion I might have had on that topic with you was civil.  I may disagree with folks on some things,  but I want to be at least decent enough to not sling vitriol and be a prick myself.  If I did so, I humbly apologize. 
    Actually b, we had some pretty decent and civil discussions early on in your Keystone XL pipeline thread if I remember correctly. The history is there. I’m sure it was a heated, yet civil debate.  I feel we were always respectful to each other and you are one of the coolest people on this forum. I was very happy you stuck around after the membership increase! 

    The world is a complicated place and the answers aren’t simple. An open forum where dialogue can be shared and discussed is positive. AMT turned into a lot of name calling (neocon, libtard, woke, nazi, etc). That’s exactly what the despot leaders of the world want, is for us to turn on each other. Divide and conquer.  I no longer want to be a part of the division, more the solution. Look for common ground. 




  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,651
    brianlux said:
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 



    Another fine post!  You must know I'm an anti-oil dude but I hope any discussion I might have had on that topic with you was civil.  I may disagree with folks on some things,  but I want to be at least decent enough to not sling vitriol and be a prick myself.  If I did so, I humbly apologize. 
    Actually b, we had some pretty decent and civil discussions early on in your Keystone XL pipeline thread if I remember correctly. The history is there. I’m sure it was a heated, yet civil debate.  I feel we were always respectful to each other and you are one of the coolest people on this forum. I was very happy you stuck around after the membership increase! 

    The world is a complicated place and the answers aren’t simple. An open forum where dialogue can be shared and discussed is positive. AMT turned into a lot of name calling (neocon, libtard, woke, nazi, etc). That’s exactly what the despot leaders of the world want, is for us to turn on each other. Divide and conquer.  I no longer want to be a part of the division, more the solution. Look for common ground. 





    Oh good!  I'm glad our exchanges were civil.
    And good point about divide and conquer.  Working together is a great goal.  I've always loved how Canned Heat put it!
    There are several video versions of this song out there, but the girls are prettier than the band soooo...

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,136
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 


    it sounds like your mind did change a bit...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 


    it sounds like your mind did change a bit...
    Of course it did. A clear sign of intellectual prowess is looking at all sides of an issue and making an informed decision on your position.  Taking a stand simply because you are somewhat aligned politically or socially  is foolhardy. 

    Schoolyard name calling that place people into some nice little labelled box on how they approach complicated social and political issues certainly helps me determine who and where I interact with people on this Forum. Learning from prior mistakes and taking this more seriously. Even if a post online doesn’t mean much to me, it may mean plenty more to others and that is what matters. 

    Also, I like myself more than I did back then. It’s a lot easier to get along with people when you finally recognize the self-loathing going on. I was getting self-satisfaction of being a troll and pissing people off. I mean, I took great pride in it at the time. 

    So, you can call me woke or the leader of the woke mob or whatever you posted earlier. Didn’t bother me. Has it bothered me other times
    it was used to label me (insultingly) on other threads? Yes it has and those folks are now ignored. The woke culture has affected my family in negative ways you probably couldn’t imagine. So go ahead and throw some of us in a nice little labelled box (framed in an insulting manner of course) if it makes you feel better about yourself. 

    There are plenty of folks I know pretty well on here who keep things civil and intellectual. They know who they are. We can challenge each other and keep it respectful. Best part is I always learn something, or it prompts me to do a little extra research to educate myself further. 

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,136
    edited February 2023
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 


    it sounds like your mind did change a bit...
    Of course it did. A clear sign of intellectual prowess is looking at all sides of an issue and making an informed decision on your position.  Taking a stand simply because you are somewhat aligned politically or socially  is foolhardy. 

    Schoolyard name calling that place people into some nice little labelled box on how they approach complicated social and political issues certainly helps me determine who and where I interact with people on this Forum. Learning from prior mistakes and taking this more seriously. Even if a post online doesn’t mean much to me, it may mean plenty more to others and that is what matters. 

    Also, I like myself more than I did back then. It’s a lot easier to get along with people when you finally recognize the self-loathing going on. I was getting self-satisfaction of being a troll and pissing people off. I mean, I took great pride in it at the time. 

    So, you can call me woke or the leader of the woke mob or whatever you posted earlier. Didn’t bother me. Has it bothered me other times
    it was used to label me (insultingly) on other threads? Yes it has and those folks are now ignored. The woke culture has affected my family in negative ways you probably couldn’t imagine. So go ahead and throw some of us in a nice little labelled box (framed in an insulting manner of course) if it makes you feel better about yourself. 

    There are plenty of folks I know pretty well on here who keep things civil and intellectual. They know who they are. We can challenge each other and keep it respectful. Best part is I always learn something, or it prompts me to do a little extra research to educate myself further. 

    yeah the woke comment was a joke...sorry it didn't come across that way

    I mean holy shit...I said you represented the woke mob. Clearly a joke. It just struck me funny that you compared this thread to one on AMT. Labeling a right leaning person as "woke" is like the ultimate obvious absurdity.
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 


    it sounds like your mind did change a bit...
    Of course it did. A clear sign of intellectual prowess is looking at all sides of an issue and making an informed decision on your position.  Taking a stand simply because you are somewhat aligned politically or socially  is foolhardy. 

    Schoolyard name calling that place people into some nice little labelled box on how they approach complicated social and political issues certainly helps me determine who and where I interact with people on this Forum. Learning from prior mistakes and taking this more seriously. Even if a post online doesn’t mean much to me, it may mean plenty more to others and that is what matters. 

    Also, I like myself more than I did back then. It’s a lot easier to get along with people when you finally recognize the self-loathing going on. I was getting self-satisfaction of being a troll and pissing people off. I mean, I took great pride in it at the time. 

    So, you can call me woke or the leader of the woke mob or whatever you posted earlier. Didn’t bother me. Has it bothered me other times
    it was used to label me (insultingly) on other threads? Yes it has and those folks are now ignored. The woke culture has affected my family in negative ways you probably couldn’t imagine. So go ahead and throw some of us in a nice little labelled box (framed in an insulting manner of course) if it makes you feel better about yourself. 

    There are plenty of folks I know pretty well on here who keep things civil and intellectual. They know who they are. We can challenge each other and keep it respectful. Best part is I always learn something, or it prompts me to do a little extra research to educate myself further. 

    yeah the woke comment was a joke...sorry it didn't come across that way

    I mean holy shit...I said you represented the woke mob. Clearly a joke. It just struck me funny that you compared this thread to one on AMT. Labeling a right leaning person as "woke" is like the ultimate obvious absurdity.
    It’s all good. We are still talking after all. I didn’t catch the joke and thought maybe you had read some previous interactions. 

    My comment was to indicate that a harmless poll had turned into what felt like an AMT thread which was amusing and inevitable all at once. Kind of a quick off the cuff observation that was coincidentally shared by a few people. 

    For the record, not really a left or right leaning person. I find those definitions too broad to be effective. One of the things that really changed my opinion on all of this about 5 years ago was a questionnaire created for Canadians to see which party your answers best aligned with for an upcoming federal election. My results were almost one-third for each party (Conservative, Liberal, NDP).  

    I basically had been lying to myself that I was some staunch conservative, since only one-third aligned with their platform. Lol
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,136
    edited February 2023
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 


    it sounds like your mind did change a bit...
    Of course it did. A clear sign of intellectual prowess is looking at all sides of an issue and making an informed decision on your position.  Taking a stand simply because you are somewhat aligned politically or socially  is foolhardy. 

    Schoolyard name calling that place people into some nice little labelled box on how they approach complicated social and political issues certainly helps me determine who and where I interact with people on this Forum. Learning from prior mistakes and taking this more seriously. Even if a post online doesn’t mean much to me, it may mean plenty more to others and that is what matters. 

    Also, I like myself more than I did back then. It’s a lot easier to get along with people when you finally recognize the self-loathing going on. I was getting self-satisfaction of being a troll and pissing people off. I mean, I took great pride in it at the time. 

    So, you can call me woke or the leader of the woke mob or whatever you posted earlier. Didn’t bother me. Has it bothered me other times
    it was used to label me (insultingly) on other threads? Yes it has and those folks are now ignored. The woke culture has affected my family in negative ways you probably couldn’t imagine. So go ahead and throw some of us in a nice little labelled box (framed in an insulting manner of course) if it makes you feel better about yourself. 

    There are plenty of folks I know pretty well on here who keep things civil and intellectual. They know who they are. We can challenge each other and keep it respectful. Best part is I always learn something, or it prompts me to do a little extra research to educate myself further. 

    yeah the woke comment was a joke...sorry it didn't come across that way

    I mean holy shit...I said you represented the woke mob. Clearly a joke. It just struck me funny that you compared this thread to one on AMT. Labeling a right leaning person as "woke" is like the ultimate obvious absurdity.
    It’s all good. We are still talking after all. I didn’t catch the joke and thought maybe you had read some previous interactions. 

    My comment was to indicate that a harmless poll had turned into what felt like an AMT thread which was amusing and inevitable all at once. Kind of a quick off the cuff observation that was coincidentally shared by a few people. 

    For the record, not really a left or right leaning person. I find those definitions too broad to be effective. One of the things that really changed my opinion on all of this about 5 years ago was a questionnaire created for Canadians to see which party your answers best aligned with for an upcoming federal election. My results were almost one-third for each party (Conservative, Liberal, NDP).  

    I basically had been lying to myself that I was some staunch conservative, since only one-third aligned with their platform. Lol
    Same problem over here (USA). People join a team and don't dig deeper into the issues. They just stick with their team. I used to be a Rush Limbaugh dittohead. Of course that was back in the early nineties before he even went maga. He wasn't nearly as hateful back then.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited February 2023
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 



    And Part Deux was then closed back in 2015, which is when I started the Canadian Politics Redux to get the convo going again, hahaha. I have no memory of why Part Deux got closed. Probably some petty bickering. :wink:
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited February 2023
    PJ_Soul said:
    I’ve been hesitant to post my own point of view simply because it could be seen as blowing my own horn (something I really try to avoid).

    As was mentioned above it comes and goes in waves depending on what’s happening and what gets posted (for the most part I stick to the Canadian politics thread as I don’t generally feel informed enough to comment on other countries’ politics).

    Several months ago I backed right off because I went back and looked at my (at the time) recent posts and didn’t like some of my own tone and words. I’ve dipped my toes in once or twice since, but my goal is to post better (whatever that means, lol), which is admittedly a work in progress.

    As someone who leans a bit right I accepted very early on that I will fall in the minority here, and there’s zero wrong with that, I apologize for sometimes letting that get my goat just the same.

    All that said, I continue to lurk in AMT and really appreciate how knowledgeable so many around here are. I do believe that the various threads there have helped me learn.
    This is a great post. Do you know the reason it’s called “Canadian Politics Part Deux”? ME. The OG Canadian Politics thread was closed and I ended up in the Forum penalty box for a while. Got five and a game. 

    I had everyone so worked up on that thread due to my (at the time) heavily leaning right wing pro-oil and gas leanings and because I was the target of much vitriol, I lashed out on people and was a big ol prick. (Why I get a helluva laugh being called “woke”). 
    It got quite personal and quite frankly, until that point I never took online discussions seriously, so I thought why would anyone else. 

    I’ve worked since then to be a better human. Im more moderate politically, more understanding of people’s feelings and such and avoid AMT discussions for the most part.  Go back to when people just didn’t talk politics. No one is going to change my mind, not going to change theirs. 



    And Part Deux was then closed back in 2015, which is when I started the Canadian Politics Redux to get the convo going again, hahaha. I have no memory of why Part Deux got closed. Probably some petty bickering. :wink:
    Actually that corrects the timeline. Part Deux was closed because of me. Redux is the result of that lol. 
    I don’t go on there anymore so I forgot the name 

    EDIT - actually I’m not sure anymore lol. 2015 sounds about the right time though. I would never go revisit those posts, it’s probably pretty
    cringe worthy 
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