The Last of Us

igotid88

Might be a coincidence but Pearl Jam just uploaded All or None on their YouTube page.
Don't take this as fact

igotid88

igotid88 said:

Might be a coincidence but Pearl Jam just uploaded All or None on their YouTube page.
Don't take this as fact

Okay. Now do

Gern Blansten

yeah that was a surprise...I wish they wouldn't have cut it off so quickly though

mace1229

Wasn’t too impressed last night. Another episode like the one about Bill. No advancement of the story and spend the hour giving a backstory on a character of no importance because they die at the end. Was a filler episode to get to the number they needed I guess.

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

Wasn’t too impressed last night. Another episode like the one about Bill. No advancement of the story and spend the hour giving a backstory on a character of no importance because they die at the end. Was a filler episode to get to the number they needed I guess.

yeah it was a bit drawn out...and I didn't even realize that was a flashback

nicknyr15

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Wasn’t too impressed last night. Another episode like the one about Bill. No advancement of the story and spend the hour giving a backstory on a character of no importance because they die at the end. Was a filler episode to get to the number they needed I guess.

yeah it was a bit drawn out...and I didn't even realize that was a flashback

Jumped back in because my wife promised me after episode 3 it got really good. And she was right. Ep 5 was one of my favorite hours of television. But after this past episode, I don’t know. Seemed absolutely pointless. 

Gern Blansten

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Wasn’t too impressed last night. Another episode like the one about Bill. No advancement of the story and spend the hour giving a backstory on a character of no importance because they die at the end. Was a filler episode to get to the number they needed I guess.

yeah it was a bit drawn out...and I didn't even realize that was a flashback

Jumped back in because my wife promised me after episode 3 it got really good. And she was right. Ep 5 was one of my favorite hours of television. But after this past episode, I don’t know. Seemed absolutely pointless. 

that probably means the next episode will make up for it...Game of Thrones was kind of set up like that too

nicknyr15

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Wasn’t too impressed last night. Another episode like the one about Bill. No advancement of the story and spend the hour giving a backstory on a character of no importance because they die at the end. Was a filler episode to get to the number they needed I guess.

yeah it was a bit drawn out...and I didn't even realize that was a flashback

Jumped back in because my wife promised me after episode 3 it got really good. And she was right. Ep 5 was one of my favorite hours of television. But after this past episode, I don’t know. Seemed absolutely pointless. 

that probably means the next episode will make up for it...Game of Thrones was kind of set up like that too

Hope you’re right. 

igotid88

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Gern Blansten

I wish I could just wait until a season is done and then binge it. I forget too much shit week to week. An episode like this last one would be fine in that format in my opinion.

nicknyr15

igotid88 said:

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Not sure what exactly this means. But ok. I never watched tV because I didn’t enjoy the last episode? 

igotid88

nicknyr15 said:

igotid88 said:

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Not sure what exactly this means. But ok. I never watched tV because I didn’t enjoy the last episode? 

No. That every episode has to be a certain way.

mca47

I loved the last episode (#7).  Granted, I also played that "episode" in the game (or technically after) and was looking forward to it.  I think it's important to show Ellie's background, who she was before everything started.  How she was going about her life before being bit and embarking on her journey with Joel.  Her life was more or less miserable, being oppressed in that camp for most of her life.  Then she gets the opportunity to have some fun and experience things that normal kids do...sneaking around, drinking, having fun, going to the arcade and feeling the emotions of caring for someone and/or love.  Maybe because I got to "play" Ellie, but I tried my best to put myself in her shoes...as a 14 year old kid who never got to experience the things we all probably took for granted in the real world.  Then, everything came crashing down as she and the person she cared for were ticketed to become infected or die.  She was alone, once again.  Then mix that with the scenes of Joel dying in front of her, and the argument Joel and Ellie had in the prior episode "You don't know loss...".  Joel is all she has.  We got to see Joel's perspective last week when he admitted he's getting old and can't protect her, and not being able to protect anyone and everyone he's ever cared about.  In this ep, we see it from Ellie.  She physically and emotionally cannot lose him as she has no-one.  The two people she's probably ever cared about are dead, and dying in front of her.
I'll admit, it was a slower episode.  No big battles, not many infected to worry about, not a ton of drama...but I loved it.  Great story telling IMO.

cblock4life

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Wasn’t too impressed last night. Another episode like the one about Bill. No advancement of the story and spend the hour giving a backstory on a character of no importance because they die at the end. Was a filler episode to get to the number they needed I guess.

yeah it was a bit drawn out...and I didn't even realize that was a flashback

Jumped back in because my wife promised me after episode 3 it got really good. And she was right. Ep 5 was one of my favorite hours of television. But after this past episode, I don’t know. Seemed absolutely pointless. 

Maybe, just maybe they’re supplying some info for those of us who’ve never played the game(?).  I wish I would have played but I’m the kind that screams real loud when I start hitting the buttons wrong!  I’m one of those at the movies screaming at the screen as well.  Haven’t been to the movies since the Blair witch project…..wonder why? 

igotid88

As someone pointed out. There's a reason All or None was chosen. She's in a hopeless situation. And the All or None is the choices she has to make.

cblock4life

I need cliff notes! 

mace1229

igotid88 said:

nicknyr15 said:

igotid88 said:

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Not sure what exactly this means. But ok. I never watched tV because I didn’t enjoy the last episode? 

No. That every episode has to be a certain way.

This episode didnt advance the story line at all. Is that the "certain way"? Thats what ruins shows for me, thats one reason TWD got so bad, they would drag what could be 2-3 episodes into a whole season by adding episodes that didnt advance the story. That, and other things made it suck in the end. 
You could have skipped this episode and not missed anything and wouldnt have even known you missed one. It introduced and developed a character that dies in the end, and presumably will never see again or have an impact on the show. If you still liked it then thats great. There's also nothing wrong with wanting the story to develop each week. It did not this week.
I didn't think it was terrible, but easily my second least favorite episode. Least favorite being the one with Bill for the exact same reasons. 
If they really wanted this backstory, they could have spread it out over 3 or 4 episodes, in 10 minutes flashbacks each week. I would have preferred that.

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

igotid88 said:

nicknyr15 said:

igotid88 said:

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Not sure what exactly this means. But ok. I never watched tV because I didn’t enjoy the last episode? 

No. That every episode has to be a certain way.

This episode didnt advance the story line at all. Is that the "certain way"? Thats what ruins shows for me, thats one reason TWD got so bad, they would drag what could be 2-3 episodes into a whole season by adding episodes that didnt advance the story. That, and other things made it suck in the end. 
You could have skipped this episode and not missed anything and wouldnt have even known you missed one. It introduced and developed a character that dies in the end, and presumably will never see again or have an impact on the show. If you still liked it then thats great. There's also nothing wrong with wanting the story to develop each week. It did not this week.
I didn't think it was terrible, but easily my second least favorite episode. Least favorite being the one with Bill for the exact same reasons. 
If they really wanted this backstory, they could have spread it out over 3 or 4 episodes, in 10 minutes flashbacks each week. I would have preferred that.

It didn't really advance the story but it gave background....I'm in the group that thought it was a little long but still thought it was good TV.

As I mentioned...it was a flashback and I completely missed it. I was probably fucking around on TikTok or something and not paying enough attention.

igotid88

mace1229 said:

igotid88 said:

nicknyr15 said:

igotid88 said:

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Not sure what exactly this means. But ok. I never watched tV because I didn’t enjoy the last episode? 

No. That every episode has to be a certain way.

This episode didnt advance the story line at all. Is that the "certain way"? Thats what ruins shows for me, thats one reason TWD got so bad, they would drag what could be 2-3 episodes into a whole season by adding episodes that didnt advance the story. That, and other things made it suck in the end. 
You could have skipped this episode and not missed anything and wouldnt have even known you missed one. It introduced and developed a character that dies in the end, and presumably will never see again or have an impact on the show. If you still liked it then thats great. There's also nothing wrong with wanting the story to develop each week. It did not this week.
I didn't think it was terrible, but easily my second least favorite episode. Least favorite being the one with Bill for the exact same reasons. 
If they really wanted this backstory, they could have spread it out over 3 or 4 episodes, in 10 minutes flashbacks each week. I would have preferred that.

Yes. If it's a good story I don't mind if it doesn't "advance" it. It's not a movie. 

mca47

mace1229 said:

igotid88 said:

nicknyr15 said:

igotid88 said:

It's like you guys never watched TV shows before. I didn't have a problem with the last episode. 

Not sure what exactly this means. But ok. I never watched tV because I didn’t enjoy the last episode? 

No. That every episode has to be a certain way.

This episode didnt advance the story line at all. Is that the "certain way"? Thats what ruins shows for me, thats one reason TWD got so bad, they would drag what could be 2-3 episodes into a whole season by adding episodes that didnt advance the story. That, and other things made it suck in the end. 
You could have skipped this episode and not missed anything and wouldnt have even known you missed one. It introduced and developed a character that dies in the end, and presumably will never see again or have an impact on the show. If you still liked it then thats great. There's also nothing wrong with wanting the story to develop each week. It did not this week.
I didn't think it was terrible, but easily my second least favorite episode. Least favorite being the one with Bill for the exact same reasons. 
If they really wanted this backstory, they could have spread it out over 3 or 4 episodes, in 10 minutes flashbacks each week. I would have preferred that.

Please see my comment above.
We had no past history on anything Ellie from the first episode to episode 6.  The show made a point to focus in on what and where Ellie came from as she is one of two main characters in the story.  I get what you're saying about throwing a piece of it here and there, but the story was important.  Like I said before, the relationship that has built with Joel and Ellie comes from past experiences and a lot of that has to do with loss.  Episode 6, where they had their argument about separating...  we know what Joel's story was.  Ellie's has nothing.  The one thing, the one person she ever cared about is gone.  Now, her developing relationship with Joel has become a powerful thing to her, and in her mind when Joel tells her Tommy will be taking her from now on, crushed her.  I feel it's also why it was so important to show her taking care of him during ep7.  She's going to do whatever it takes to save him, or at least try.  Ellie's entire life has been about isolation, no family, no real friends.  By giving her that important backstory shows us that glimmer of life that could be had, and how it was taken away so abruptly.  That loss meant a lot to her and the emotion we are seeing with her and Joel.  In my opinion, episode 7 was absolutely necessary in the story...and especially knowing what is going to happen in the next two episodes...