Jury recommends life in prison without parole for Parkland school shooter

mace1229

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.

No shit!  Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up.  It's disgusting.  This country loves violence.  It thrives on violence.  It has become defined by violence. 

cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..

How many countries got their independence and kept it without any violence?  Many countries have a far more violent history than USA does.

India!  I win again!!!

Wrong! I said "how many?" India is not a number. You have to donate a pair of socks.

brianlux

Ahhh, you're all missing the obvious.  Atlantis!

cincybearcat

brianlux said:

Ahhh, you're all missing the obvious.  Atlantis!

You must not have seen Aquaman

tempo_n_groove

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.

No shit!  Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up.  It's disgusting.  This country loves violence.  It thrives on violence.  It has become defined by violence. 

cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..

How many countries got their independence and kept it without any violence?  Many countries have a far more violent history than USA does.

India!  I win again!!!

Wrong! I said "how many?" India is not a number. You have to donate a pair of socks.

Dammit...

FiveBelow

Halifax2TheMax said:

Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.

Less than 1% = ordinary? That is a rather extraordinary claim.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/202714/number-of-committed-crimes-in-the-us-by-type-of-crime/

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.

You don't see the difference between self defense, drunk driving and killing someone in their sleep? Those are some very big differences.
Some of the different degrees you asked about are to reflect some of those differences. Has nothing to do with how common it is. Killing someone out of neglect is different than planning to intentionally murder someone while they sleep. So there are different degrees of murder.

brianlux

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

Ahhh, you're all missing the obvious.  Atlantis!

You must not have seen Aquaman

Have not.  Good flick?

cincybearcat

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

Ahhh, you're all missing the obvious.  Atlantis!

You must not have seen Aquaman

Have not.  Good flick?

Not great…can be fun. But there is plenty of war in Atlantis! 

brianlux

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

Ahhh, you're all missing the obvious.  Atlantis!

You must not have seen Aquaman

Have not.  Good flick?

Not great…can be fun. But there is plenty of war in Atlantis! 

Oh no!  A shattered myth, lol!

Spiritual_Chaos

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mace1229 said:

He’s asking about the graph you posted. I had the same crime. He is capital punishment reserves for ordinary crimes i America? What ordinary crime gets the death sentence here?

Murder?

Or what is so hard to understand? You should have a way better understanding of your system than I do.

Murder is not "an ordinary crime".  That is what doesn't make sense.  What out of touch sociopath created this graph?

If you read the graph it shouldn’t be hard at all to understand why it is labeled like it is. Not at all. As in zero problems to get it. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Hastings was charged with special-circumstance murder and the district attorney's office sought the death penalty but the jury deadlocked. A second jury convicted him and he was sentenced in 1988 to life in prison without parole.

Hastings has been freed because DNA proved he is innocent. Lucky for him the jury didn’t spring for the DP. 

OnWis97

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.

You don't see the difference between self defense, drunk driving and killing someone in their sleep? Those are some very big differences.
Some of the different degrees you asked about are to reflect some of those differences. Has nothing to do with how common it is. Killing someone out of neglect is different than planning to intentionally murder someone while they sleep. So there are different degrees of murder.

I'd be curious to know what % of inmates in a womens' prisons are there becasue they killed their abusers.