He’s asking about the graph you posted. I had the same crime. He is capital punishment reserves for ordinary crimes i America? What ordinary crime gets the death sentence here?
Murder?
Or what is so hard to understand? You should have a way better understanding of your system than I do.
Murder is not "an ordinary crime". That is what doesn't make sense. What out of touch sociopath created this graph?
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I was wondering the same thing about "ordinary crimes" being related to capitol punishment. Amnesty International should know better than to publish something so poorly constructed.
But this touches on a far-reaching problem- the inability to form a logical and sensible argument. No wonder society is becoming so unhinged. Ugh...
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He’s asking about the graph you posted. I had the same crime. He is capital punishment reserves for ordinary crimes i America? What ordinary crime gets the death sentence here?
Murder?
Or what is so hard to understand? You should have a way better understanding of your system than I do.
Murder is not "an ordinary crime". That is what doesn't make sense. What out of touch sociopath created this graph?
Exactly this. If I wasn't living here, I'd think you could get the death sentence for stealing bread. That is an ordinary crime. First degree murder is not.
He’s asking about the graph you posted. I had the same crime. He is capital punishment reserves for ordinary crimes i America? What ordinary crime gets the death sentence here?
Murder?
Or what is so hard to understand? You should have a way better understanding of your system than I do.
Murder is not "an ordinary crime". That is what doesn't make sense. What out of touch sociopath created this graph?
Exactly this. If I wasn't living here, I'd think you could get the death sentence for stealing bread. That is an ordinary crime. First degree murder is not.
The graphic did define the extraordinary crimes as terrorism and military crimes
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That's a weird graphic, particularly since some countries might actually execute for actual ordinary crimes like, vandalizing street signs or something (hopefully not, but who knows?)
I'd need a decent list of what these "exceptional crimes" are as well as "ordinary crimes."
That said, the US isn't in the best of company here. Add to that that we probably imprison a higher proportion of our population than anyone, and "soft on crime" doesn't really seem to be the problem people make it out to be.
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He’s asking about the graph you posted. I had the same crime. He is capital punishment reserves for ordinary crimes i America? What ordinary crime gets the death sentence here?
Murder?
Or what is so hard to understand? You should have a way better understanding of your system than I do.
Murder is not "an ordinary crime". That is what doesn't make sense. What out of touch sociopath created this graph?
Exactly this. If I wasn't living here, I'd think you could get the death sentence for stealing bread. That is an ordinary crime. First degree murder is not.
The graphic did define the extraordinary crimes as terrorism and military crimes
A military crime to me is treason, not murder though.
Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.
Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.
Firearms are restricted... Not to the degree you'd like but they are.
We are also fascinated by the macabre, hence the new found interest in Dahmer. We haven't had, thank goodness, someone like Dahmer in 30 years.
Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.
Firearms are restricted... Not to the degree you'd like but they are.
We are also fascinated by the macabre, hence the new found interest in Dahmer. We haven't had, thank goodness, someone like Dahmer in 30 years.
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Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.
Firearms are restricted... Not to the degree you'd like but they are.
We are also fascinated by the macabre, hence the new found interest in Dahmer. We haven't had, thank goodness, someone like Dahmer in 30 years.
Four guys shot, chopped up and tossed in a river in OK. Seems almost “ordinary.”
And those violations of firearms restrictions sure do put the hurt on the ease of availability, access and “responsible” use, possession and ownership, right?
Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.
Firearms are restricted... Not to the degree you'd like but they are.
We are also fascinated by the macabre, hence the new found interest in Dahmer. We haven't had, thank goodness, someone like Dahmer in 30 years.
that we know of....
With all the eyes in the sky and stuff and 24hr news,maybe they get caught doing stupid shit early before they do more?
Murder is a very “ordinary” crime in ‘Murica. If not, why the degrees? If not, why the inability to reasonably restrict firearms? Oh, silly me, 2A. Why sentencing disparities and fancy definitions, like “crime of passion,” “stood their ground,” or “self defence?” Why “accidental” or “with a car, drunk,” is different than “shot them while they slept?” Because murder in ‘Murica is ordinary. Pro-life my ass.
Firearms are restricted... Not to the degree you'd like but they are.
We are also fascinated by the macabre, hence the new found interest in Dahmer. We haven't had, thank goodness, someone like Dahmer in 30 years.
Four guys shot, chopped up and tossed in a river in OK. Seems almost “ordinary.”
And those violations of firearms restrictions sure do put the hurt on the ease of availability, access and “responsible” use, possession and ownership, right?
4 people is nothing to what Dahmer did. Not in any stretch. Not saying that it's nothing either but what he did was literally insane.
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Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
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Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..
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Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..
This is true to a very big degree but not all was founded on violence. My Amish relatives going way back, for example, move here to gain religious freedom. I believe others did as well.
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Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
Those families, if mentioned, are supposed to be paid I believe. They started doing this because of Manson I think? One of the crazies was making money and the deceased families were entitled to it.
Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..
This is true to a very big degree but not all was founded on violence. My Amish relatives going way back, for example, move here to gain religious freedom. I believe others did as well.
What country or area of land was not "founded" by violence? I'm seriously asking, cause in my head it seems that most land, etc was won via war.
Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..
This is true to a very big degree but not all was founded on violence. My Amish relatives going way back, for example, move here to gain religious freedom. I believe others did as well.
What country or area of land was not "founded" by violence? I'm seriously asking, cause in my head it seems that most land, etc was won via war.
missed your comment before posting mine. totally agree. this "founded on violence" as an excuse for violence in america is crap.
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Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..
How many countries got their independence and kept it without any violence? Many countries have a far more violent history than USA does.
Hell, there is a whole entertainment industry built upon the real life murders of people in ‘Murica and we seem to celebrate the celebrity of it. Dahmer anyone? Yea, pretty ordinary.
No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
cmon. it was founded on violence. not only establishing rhe nation but as colonies too..
How many countries got their independence and kept it without any violence? Many countries have a far more violent history than USA does.
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I'd need a decent list of what these "exceptional crimes" are as well as "ordinary crimes."
That said, the US isn't in the best of company here. Add to that that we probably imprison a higher proportion of our population than anyone, and "soft on crime" doesn't really seem to be the problem people make it out to be.
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We are also fascinated by the macabre, hence the new found interest in Dahmer. We haven't had, thank goodness, someone like Dahmer in 30 years.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
And those violations of firearms restrictions sure do put the hurt on the ease of availability, access and “responsible” use, possession and ownership, right?
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No shit! Imagine being a family members of one of Dahmer's victims and seeing his horrific acts being glorified on television and having hoards of Americans eat that shit up. It's disgusting. This country loves violence. It thrives on violence. It has become defined by violence.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
This is true to a very big degree but not all was founded on violence. My Amish relatives going way back, for example, move here to gain religious freedom. I believe others did as well.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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