Quiet Quitting

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I don’t get days or time off because my employees take it. The places have to run 7 days a week so in a given month there’s a day or two max that others haven’t asked off that I can take.  I didn’t say it because I don’t believe it, folks should get time off.  In 12 years of owning multiple restaurants I’ve never, not once, told someone they can’t have requested time off- I fill their void.  I’ve cancelled several family vacations over the years because others asked for the same time off. I wouldn’t ever work corporate, just because it’s cushy.  That’s a cop out.  If your body works, you should work as hard as it can handle, and sitting at a desk on the internet isn’t as hard as it can handle.  I worked 90 hour weeks before i owned my own businesses by the way, that’s probably what got me into ownership: I was offered opportunities after working with a few James beard chefs and showing up before them and leaving after them.  I only posted to say my experience, not to attack you.  We’re not the same, we see things differently.  That’s ok.  The world functions perfectly fine with people of all kinds.

no, you shouldn't, unless that's what gives you personal satisfaction, which it seems it does for you. It doesn't give me that satisfaction anymore like it did before, so I do what makes me happy. 

I used to live to work. Then I retired almost 20 years ago. Now I work to live.
Working a ridiculous amount of hours with little or no time off to enjoy life and or family is not necessarily a good thing.
Now I work a job I enjoy with bosses I like and I can travel and see the world as I see fit.
If you're happy working 100 hours or more a week great. But there is a lot being missed 

In one of my previous jobs we had a superintendent that loved working and didn't believe in days off or going home after 8hrs.  That reflected on us the workers too because we were stuck working just as long as him.  We were all away from home so I guess he had nothing else to do?

Anywho, when I became a Superintendent for the same company I conducted myself the complete opposite way he did.  So working under him made me a great super because he taught me everything not to do.

My men under me would say that they weren't making as much money but their quality of life was better.  I knew I was doing the right thing.

Reminds me of an accounting firm I worked at. If you came in at 8am and left at 5pm you got dirty looks. But if you came in at 830am and left at 530am they were happy as hell that you weren't a clock watcher.

mace1229

OnWis97 said:

As an aside, every time I see this thread, I read it as "Quiet Quilting." Uh...is there any other kind?

Carry on.

Ha I didn't even realize you write that before I did.

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

As an aside, every time I see this thread, I read it as "Quiet Quilting." Uh...is there any other kind?

Carry on.

Ha I didn't even realize you write that before I did.

I thought one of you copied the other. lol

OnWis97

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

As an aside, every time I see this thread, I read it as "Quiet Quilting." Uh...is there any other kind?

Carry on.

Did you come on to share your crocheting skills?

That's right. I'm the Mike McCready of crocheting. 

tempo_n_groove

OnWis97 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

As an aside, every time I see this thread, I read it as "Quiet Quilting." Uh...is there any other kind?

Carry on.

Did you come on to share your crocheting skills?

That's right. I'm the Mike McCready of crocheting. 

You finger melt with your patterns huh?

Malroth

I am the king of quiet quitting.

I'll tell myself I'm over it.........

F Me In The Brain

I wonder if quiet quitting will decline as the jobs dry up, some.  
Fewer actual quits are happening and fewer hires are happening....

Halifax2TheMax

F Me In The Brain said:

I wonder if quiet quitting will decline as the jobs dry up, some.  
Fewer actual quits are happening and fewer hires are happening....

Quit hiring?

F Me In The Brain

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I wonder if quiet quitting will decline as the jobs dry up, some.  
Fewer actual quits are happening and fewer hires are happening....

Quit hiring?

The annoying trend of making up a new term for everything now has "fake jobs"

Zod

I'm still not sure why it's called quitting, when people are basically just doing their job for the hours they get paid to do it.  Isn't that still working and doing your job?

F Me In The Brain

Zod said:

I'm still not sure why it's called quitting, when people are basically just doing their job for the hours they get paid to do it.  Isn't that still working and doing your job?

I think it is another way people in this time spend their time....coming up with new ways to try and scribe things, while still collecting a paycheck for milking it.

Gern Blansten

Zod said:

I'm still not sure why it's called quitting, when people are basically just doing their job for the hours they get paid to do it.  Isn't that still working and doing your job?

But they really aren't doing what they are paid to do....they are dropping to the bare minimum which isn't what their current compensation is based on.  All of a sudden the employer is paying the same for less work.

mace1229

The term confused me too. At first I assumed it meant not doing your job until your boss notices and fires you, and just see how long you can get away with it. Some people might be able to for a while. But when I read it and saw it just means the bare minimum, that's different.

To me, doing the bare minimum is still doing your job and doing what you're paid to do. Its just not going over and beyond. Like in teaching for example, we have teachers who show up and do a great job teaching every day, but refuse to do all the extra crap that is thrown at us. Like cover other classes on our off period because there are no subs. That's only been a thing the last several years, sub pay is terrible and we get unfilled positions every day, so other teachers have to cover on their plan period. About half do, and half refuse. It sucks because the ones who don't refuse have to cover twice as often, but at the same time I get it, it isn't part of my job description, it isn't my responsibility to make sure there is an adult in the math room. Its not my fault they pay subs about $80 a day for a crao job and no one wants to do it. I was promised plan time, its in my contract, but teachers who haven't been here 10 years usually feel obligated to do it when asked. 

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

The term confused me too. At first I assumed it meant not doing your job until your boss notices and fires you, and just see how long you can get away with it. Some people might be able to for a while. But when I read it and saw it just means the bare minimum, that's different.

To me, doing the bare minimum is still doing your job and doing what you're paid to do. Its just not going over and beyond. Like in teaching for example, we have teachers who show up and do a great job teaching every day, but refuse to do all the extra crap that is thrown at us. Like cover other classes on our off period because there are no subs. That's only been a thing the last several years, sub pay is terrible and we get unfilled positions every day, so other teachers have to cover on their plan period. About half do, and half refuse. It sucks because the ones who don't refuse have to cover twice as often, but at the same time I get it, it isn't part of my job description, it isn't my responsibility to make sure there is an adult in the math room. Its not my fault they pay subs about $80 a day for a crao job and no one wants to do it. I was promised plan time, its in my contract, but teachers who haven't been here 10 years usually feel obligated to do it when asked. 

It's like Peter in Office Space

In our office (accounting firm) it's the people that suddenly take 1.5 hours to perform a task that normally takes 45 minutes. They are surfing the net, facebooking, etc. Instead of getting their work done and being proactive about making their work lives easier they slack and put it off to later.

HughFreakingDillon

again, it's just called quiet "quitting" as to make it an easy term to remember, with the double Q. just a buzzphrase to describe a trend. 

all it means is, you are "quitting" going over and above. you are "quitting" killing yourself every day for the same compensation/benefits as when you had less work. 

F Me In The Brain

They should be more quiet about it.  People would assume they are just bad at their jobs and not a bunch of tankers.  
   
I just don't understand the need to make up silly terms for everything these days.  Seems to be to try and give things more gravitas.  

Hi!

I wouldn’t be able to quiet quit no matter how much I hate my job. My conscience would bother me if I slacked off to much. Sure, I have my moments, like yesterday when i was watching the speaker votes come in, but I take too much pride in my work.  The slackers always seem to find their way out the door and most time without any sort of compensation. We have a shop full of quiet quitters and I can’t fucking stand them. I told the boss man the other day, “can we please hire some immigrants that would appreciate their jobs.” People are unhappy or unsatisfied with their own lives and the decisions they have made and they want to blame the employer or the “other”.  I just keep my head down and do the best I can do. I do try to go above and beyond in a lot of things and it has paid off for me. Every situation is different so I can only speak for myself.  Work Hard, Play Hard.

Zod

I don't get this part.  Is it slacking, or is it not going the extra mile?  IE you do your job and get it done, but you don't take on extra stuff, don't work free over time (or paid OT) stuff like that?

Employers do seem over the years to have squeezed more and more out of employees, so I'm not sure of quiet quitting actually means slacking, or if it means just doing your job, but not going the extra mile?

lastexitlondon

It sounds  like not wanting  to be there anymore?

mickeyrat

it should be called just doing what I was hired and am paid to do.

HughFreakingDillon

it's not slacking. it's just not goin the extra mile. 

Hi!

Yeah, I might be conflating the two with some of my thoughts. It is a little bit different then the usual slacking though. Now I need to quit slacking and get back to work.😊

lastexitlondon

But who has to go the  extra mile and why?
It sounds like not being  happy where you are. Like how  would a fireman do it.  The job is to  put out fires.  So after that  how can they  do or not extra

Hi!

lastexitlondon said:

But who has to go the  extra mile and why?
It sounds like not being  happy where you are. Like how  would a fireman do it.  The job is to  put out fires.  So after that  how can they  do or not extra

Right. Everyone’s situation is different. Those are good questions that I ask myself often. I guess at the end of the day everyone has to do what’s best for them. I prolly sound a lot more negative about work than it really is. I know maybe putting a little more care into my job has served me well. Every work environment is different though, what applies here ain’t necessarily going to apply there. 

Gern Blansten

I blame the internet and smartphones. Too fucking distracting.

lastexitlondon

Hi! said:

lastexitlondon said:

But who has to go the  extra mile and why?
It sounds like not being  happy where you are. Like how  would a fireman do it.  The job is to  put out fires.  So after that  how can they  do or not extra

Right. Everyone’s situation is different. Those are good questions that I ask myself often. I guess at the end of the day everyone has to do what’s best for them. I prolly sound a lot more negative about work than it really is. I know maybe putting a little more care into my job has served me well. Every work environment is different though, what applies here ain’t necessarily going to apply there. 

Yeah im trying to think  what job this actually applies to. Not a chef or ambulance  person. Or doctor  . Only maybe an office  job. But even then. What extra could you not do. 
Its a modern  term for hating your job surley 

HughFreakingDillon

mostly office jobs, for sure (which is the majority of people). and it's not a term for hating you job. I don't hate my job. my department just suffers from poor leadership. If I can weather that storm, and leadership changes, then great. Until then, I'm not breaking my back for a couple of assholes who aren't willing to break their own first. as leaders should do. I've been through good bosses and bad bosses over 20 years. retirements, turnover, you name it. And if leadership doesn't change, I do my best to influence change where I can affect it. Working OT/killing yourself every day is an old school way of moving up/gaining respect. I don't buy into that mentality. I used to. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

mostly office jobs, for sure (which is the majority of people). and it's not a term for hating you job. I don't hate my job. my department just suffers from poor leadership. If I can weather that storm, and leadership changes, then great. Until then, I'm not breaking my back for a couple of assholes who aren't willing to break their own first. as leaders should do. I've been through good bosses and bad bosses over 20 years. retirements, turnover, you name it. And if leadership doesn't change, I do my best to influence change where I can affect it. Working OT/killing yourself every day is an old school way of moving up/gaining respect. I don't buy into that mentality. I used to. 

100%. And yes, the whole concept is incredibly old school. Times they are a' changin', and thank god for that in this context. Bosses have to earn respect just as much as anyone else does these days - they can no longer just depend on their title to make workers bend over backwards for them, and force workers to crawl over each others' backs to win a race. Workers are sick of that shit, and I don't blame them. It's bullshit.

Malroth

Hi! said:

I wouldn’t be able to quiet quit no matter how much I hate my job. My conscience would bother me if I slacked off to much. Sure, I have my moments, like yesterday when i was watching the speaker votes come in, but I take too much pride in my work.  The slackers always seem to find their way out the door and most time without any sort of compensation. We have a shop full of quiet quitters and I can’t fucking stand them. I told the boss man the other day, “can we please hire some immigrants that would appreciate their jobs.” People are unhappy or unsatisfied with their own lives and the decisions they have made and they want to blame the employer or the “other”.  I just keep my head down and do the best I can do. I do try to go above and beyond in a lot of things and it has paid off for me. Every situation is different so I can only speak for myself.  Work Hard, Play Hard.

https://youtu.be/jkxO2ehkCXs

Zod

lastexitlondon said:

But who has to go the  extra mile and why?
It sounds like not being  happy where you are. Like how  would a fireman do it.  The job is to  put out fires.  So after that  how can they  do or not extra

Well that would be the fire department not hiring enough firefighters, and the existing firefighters asked to pick up extra shifts (above and beyond a full time job) without end in sight to pick up the slack from not hiring enough staff.  Thus putting out all the fires that occur on their shift, maybe even more, plus fires that occur after their regular shifts.  Firefighter burns out and says they'll only work their regular hours and put out the fires that occur doing those hours.

They aren't slacking, there just not going the extra mile.