Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
The simple fact is the drummers are the only member in the band that is easily replaced including Matt as it was shown with all the fillings when he had Covid. When Eddie or Jeff were down their was no replacing them. At some point something could happen to Matt and he would be replaced.
Each drummer was in the band at the right time for what was needed. Jack or Matt wouldn’t have cut it for what was needed for VS or Vitalogy. Dave was it at that time. He was apart of the band when they were at their best IMO for more than just their music but what they also stood for. I actually prefer the way Dave plays Evenflow, Matt seesm to just rush it.
No Code wouldn’t have been as incredible as it was with Jack’s style. I love Avocado and Backspacer and Matt’s style is weaved into that music. Also without Matt Pearl Jam members might have gone their own ways into other bands and it could have ended after Yield.
IMO I prefer Dave A and I feel he was a part of PJ at my favorite, and he was a part of my favorite song Angel.
All the PJ elitists can now tell me how I’m wrong.
I just watched this YouTube video last week which is basically saying right drummer right time for all involved.
Love Dave A era PJ! My first show in eighth grade was Dave A’s last and second show was Irons. All the rest have been MFC. The band has been awesome in all forms. So glad Jeff / Mike / Stone and Ed have all stuck together of course!
The simple fact is the drummers are the only member in the band that is easily replaced including Matt as it was shown with all the fillings when he had Covid. When Eddie or Jeff were down their was no replacing them. At some point something could happen to Matt and he would be replaced.
Each drummer was in the band at the right time for what was needed. Jack or Matt wouldn’t have cut it for what was needed for VS or Vitalogy. Dave was it at that time. He was apart of the band when they were at their best IMO for more than just their music but what they also stood for. I actually prefer the way Dave plays Evenflow, Matt seesm to just rush it.
No Code wouldn’t have been as incredible as it was with Jack’s style. I love Avocado and Backspacer and Matt’s style is weaved into that music. Also without Matt Pearl Jam members might have gone their own ways into other bands and it could have ended after Yield.
IMO I prefer Dave A and I feel he was a part of PJ at my favorite, and he was a part of my favorite song Angel.
All the PJ elitists can now tell me how I’m wrong.
You aren’t wrong. Except in that obviously a drummer isn’t easily replaced. Or it wouldn’t be such an issue coming up on 30 years later
I think a drummer seems more easily replaceable than they are. Maybe it’s because it’s the one member no one really sees way in the back
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Yeah, as for the rock n roll snub like its like..whatever...and to paraphrase Ed when they won the grammy. " I don't think it means anything." And we all know what Stone thinks of accolades....he has a special spot for them. His basement!
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Whoever said that Dave uses to many cymbals and is a meathead obviously isn't much of a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
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Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
and now Matt Cameron doesn't groove?
Yeah I was gonna say...have you heard Matt play the with the Stone and Jeff at solo section of Evenflow? RVM? Plus when Matt was actually doing drum solos in Evenflow...my god. Listen to Jesus Christ Pose, Green Disease, Save You, Once. Severed Hand! That guy swings!
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Whoever said that Dave uses to many cymbals and is a meathead obviously isn't much of a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Whoever said that Dave uses to many cymbals and is a meathead obviously isn't much of a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Whoever said that Dave uses to many cymbals and is a meathead obviously isn't much of a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
He did have too many though....
Well as a Sabian player good for him! ..and look at his lil adorbs overalls!
It's the same people that think we still live in 1994, that no new fans of the band should have been allowed after they became fans, that as early fans they should have exclusive access to front row or GA at their selected shows at all times in perpetuity and that that they are being "ripped off" by tickets that have a face value isn't the same as it was 30 years ago but is still half of the going rate for arena acts.
Dave was just trolling his facebook fans about this yesterday. The guy needs to move on.
Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
and now Matt Cameron doesn't groove?
Yeah I was gonna say...have you heard Matt play the with the Stone and Jeff at solo section of Evenflow? RVM? Plus when Matt was actually doing drum solos in Evenflow...my god. Listen to Jesus Christ Pose, Green Disease, Save You, Once. Severed Hand! That guy swings!
Those are just examples of him playing well, not grooving. Listen to Dave play Rats vs. Matt, for example. There is no comparison that Dave brought a funk groove to the band that has not been replicated.
It's the same people that think we still live in 1994, that no new fans of the band should have been allowed after they became fans, that as early fans they should have exclusive access to front row or GA at their selected shows at all times in perpetuity and that that they are being "ripped off" by tickets that have a face value isn't the same as it was 30 years ago but is still half of the going rate for arena acts.
The same people who insist that they were guaranteed tickets back in 1996 or 2000.
They also claim it's a lottery now as to who even gets tickets and that member number doesn't mean anything. (Even the 2010 days of F5 was a lottery of sorts.)
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Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
and now Matt Cameron doesn't groove?
Yeah I was gonna say...have you heard Matt play the with the Stone and Jeff at solo section of Evenflow? RVM? Plus when Matt was actually doing drum solos in Evenflow...my god. Listen to Jesus Christ Pose, Green Disease, Save You, Once. Severed Hand! That guy swings!
Those are just examples of him playing well, not grooving. Listen to Dave play Rats vs. Matt, for example. There is no comparison that Dave brought a funk groove to the band that has not been replicated.
Exactly - just listen to him attempt to play 'In My Tree' ...
The man is an amazing drummer, but he's a metal drummer playing rock and roll.
Matt Cameron isn't just the best drummer PJ has ever had, he's the best musician PJ has ever had. Whoever said that he can't groove, obviously isn't a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
Whoever said that Dave uses to many cymbals and is a meathead obviously isn't much of a musician and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Agreed. Dude was like an 8 armed funkgroovebeastapus.
Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
Oh will if we're going to get into that comparison. Jack is on a whole different level. And I love Jack. I don't know if Matt is really a metal or rock drummer. If you listen to the stuff he did with Wellwater Conspiracy he's again on his different plane. And while were at Matt Cam love and more points. Matt singing backups! HeLLs yeah! For reals though, Jack is near and dear to my heart. His contributions on No Code and Yield (my fav) are legendary.
Just let it go! Now keep in mind that...I didn't see PJ in their heyday. So I don't have that nostalgia, like some. And don't get me wrong he was useful for the albums he was one...And here's my thing. Dave would have not have survived past Vitalogy. He was the right drummer at the right time. Just as Jack Irons was the right drummer for No Code and Yield. I cannot imagine anyone else but Jack playing on those because he added soooo much. Can you imagine Dave playing Given to Fly? Wishlist? Dear god no. It's much in the same way Matt Cam has been the quintessential to keep the bands flow live (he is the machine after all) from first filling in plus his contributions as a songwriter. Lastly, controversial opinion.....sorry not sorry, Dave hit's too loud and added too much flare to ever little part of the songs. He wanted Pearl Jam to be a hard rock band and they are so much more. Aaaannnddd argure with me!
Because Matt Cameron is too straight ahead. He's a fantastic drummer and there are things he does very well, but groove isn't one of them. I've always found him to be too mechanical for Pearl Jam. I do love the songs he writes, though.
I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
and now Matt Cameron doesn't groove?
Yeah I was gonna say...have you heard Matt play the with the Stone and Jeff at solo section of Evenflow? RVM? Plus when Matt was actually doing drum solos in Evenflow...my god. Listen to Jesus Christ Pose, Green Disease, Save You, Once. Severed Hand! That guy swings!
Those are just examples of him playing well, not grooving. Listen to Dave play Rats vs. Matt, for example. There is no comparison that Dave brought a funk groove to the band that has not been replicated.
Exactly - just listen to him attempt to play 'In My Tree' ...
The man is an amazing drummer, but he's a metal drummer playing rock and roll.
For earlier reference here's Matt playing it in the 2000s. And in comparison with he can certainly play it up to tempo. They've been playing it slower for years now.
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I love Dave's drumming but I think without question the best drummer they ever had was Jack Irons.
Each drummer was in the band at the right time for what was needed. Jack or Matt wouldn’t have cut it for what was needed for VS or Vitalogy. Dave was it at that time. He was apart of the band when they were at their best IMO for more than just their music but what they also stood for. I actually prefer the way Dave plays Evenflow, Matt seesm to just rush it.
IMO I prefer Dave A and I feel he was a part of PJ at my favorite, and he was a part of my favorite song Angel.
it’s a good video if you haven’t seen it
I think a drummer seems more easily replaceable than they are. Maybe it’s because it’s the one member no one really sees way in the back
Dave used too many cymbals and he's a meathead. Not a good fit for the band.
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The same people who insist that they were guaranteed tickets back in 1996 or 2000.
They also claim it's a lottery now as to who even gets tickets and that member number doesn't mean anything. (Even the 2010 days of F5 was a lottery of sorts.)
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The man is an amazing drummer, but he's a metal drummer playing rock and roll.