I can probably count on one hand the amount of things that I'd wait in line 6 hours for. Probably wouldn't even need all the fingers lol. Pearl jam merchandise is not even sniffing that list.
However......about 5-6 years ago, I once waited in line 2 hours for a special beer release so I should not be judging. People waiting in line has zero effect on my life so have at it!
In Nashville, I looked at my son and put the question to him. Wait in line or not? He chose not to wait. We did some sightseeing plus TMR tour. So, I resigned myself to not waiting and possibly missing out on the Klausen poster. We lined up at 5:30 on a side entrance. Got in right at 6, and scored a poster! I repeated this at St. Louis and was able to get what I needed. I may be done with the merch lines! 5 hours is too much.
Yes! This is the way! So no go outside merch lines!
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
The reason I waited nearly 6 hours in line in Nashville is because I didn't want to pay the ridiculous ebay prices and I didn't want to hold merch during the show either. At one of the LA shows back in May I waited and bought merch inside the venue. Was able to get everything I wanted. Then during the show there was 2 different people sitting around me that spilled their drinks and my stuff was almost ruined. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario.
I hear you here. When they started outside merch I thought it was great bc I could avoid holding/watching it during the show. But once I realized I was blowing the whole day in those outside merch lines, I reverted back to just getting merch at the show when doors opened. I put it on my seat in a bag and periodically check on it and I haven’t had an issue in 15+ shows. Before the 2010s they didn’t allow or give you tubes so I would roll and put in plastic newspaper bags. Still no problem. Definitely avoid putting your merch on the floor as people spill.
If someone spilled on your bag on the seat I would consider that very unlucky. Probably need to switch to holding it if you see sloshers behind you. Kind of annoying but to me better than 6+ hours in line. Or bring some plastic bags and wrap your stuff a few times in it.
I waited in NYC February weather outside the Beacon to make sure I got the N2 Earthings poster. My hands and toes were numb when I left and the energy drained out of me. When I went back for the actual show the poster would have been easy to get. Waste of my time and energy earlier in the day.
Same with Fenway 18 - stood in a lot of outside merch lines (early!) to make sure I got my posters. When the gates opened for the actual show I could have gotten them easily. Another waste.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
I don’t think there’s enough talk about the relationship between high ticket prices (especially for MSG), the band encouraging folks to travel to see them through some combination of serving very specific markets/not playing many shows in said markets and going out of their way to provide a different experience each night, and the tendency of fans to flip merch AND tickets if they can for insane prices.
I’m not sure what can really be done about it at this stage. But a lot of the merch and ticket scalping that occurred as MSG had to, to some extent, be related to folks doing whatever they could to make ends meet after going above their means to afford being in attendance that night.
I don’t think there’s enough talk about the relationship between high ticket prices (especially for MSG), the band encouraging folks to travel to see them through some combination of serving very specific markets/not playing many shows in said markets and going out of their way to provide a different experience each night, and the tendency of fans to flip merch AND tickets if they can for insane prices.
I’m not sure what can really be done about it at this stage. But a lot of the merch and ticket scalping that occurred as MSG had to, to some extent, be related to folks doing whatever they could to make ends meet after going above their means to afford being in attendance that night.
Tend to agree with some of these points. The band plays so few shows compared to others and you are forced to travel. Eg here in the U.K. we got only 2 shows (compared say to the Killers who did 12) so it meant many of us travelled to Amsterdam, Berlin etc to see them. Turns into quite a costly activity
People were flipping merch to “fund shows” when PJ played 60 shows a year and tickets were $60. It’s not a new concept unfortunately. Where there’s a buck to be made, someone will take advantage.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
I do wonder if Nashville and St Louis were worse because they were Friday and Sunday in the US (MSG was going to be crazy anyway, but that was also a Sunday). So, more people took the entire day off on Friday than they would on a day mid-week. Haven't seen anything about the OKC merch being crazy. Curious to hear how Denver goes today.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
I thought someone was trolling when I saw that on FB.
That is a top 3 worst PJ poster of all time. I can’t even think of one that’s worse at the moment.
I wouldn’t even take one for free, not worth the space in my portfolio.
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This is right up there with the Fresno horse poster for worst poster of the tour. There was a good run of top notch posters. Excluding the festival show, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis and OKC was a great run of 4 straight top notch posters.
Keeping with the Gigaton theme from the postponed shows, the Gods are angry and the world is burning. I like this one more than the llamas he did a few years back for S. America.
Looks like it won't be a problem to snag one down the line.
the face on that poster, who the fuck would want to see that more than once....nevermind on your wall for all time
jeez
I mean, I'm no cultural expert, but that seems like a fairly common face in Asian artwork. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't have to stretch to believe that others might be into it.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
the face on that poster, who the fuck would want to see that more than once....nevermind on your wall for all time
jeez
I mean, I'm no cultural expert, but that seems like a fairly common face in Asian artwork. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't have to stretch to believe that others might be into it.
I thought someone was trolling when I saw that on FB.
That is a top 3 worst PJ poster of all time. I can’t even think of one that’s worse at the moment.
I wouldn’t even take one for free, not worth the space in my portfolio.
Vancouver 2011...
I think this is worse
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I thought someone was trolling when I saw that on FB.
That is a top 3 worst PJ poster of all time. I can’t even think of one that’s worse at the moment.
I wouldn’t even take one for free, not worth the space in my portfolio.
Vancouver 2011...
Shuss Seattle 2018
(Honestly, I kinda like Vancouver 2011 - feels like something straight outta the mid-90s. Not sure I'd put it on a wall that a lot of visitors to my house would see, but maybe in my workshop.)
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Do we know who gets final say over what the poster looks like? Do artists get full discretion or does someone at PJ/TC have to green light the final product? I'm assuming it is the former given that we occasionally get a Vancouver Wolfmanpig and today's Denver poster but was curious if anyone knows.
Do we know who gets final say over what the poster looks like? Do artists get full discretion or does someone at PJ/TC have to green light the final product? I'm assuming it is the former given that we occasionally get a Vancouver Wolfmanpig and today's Denver poster but was curious if anyone knows.
I thought someone was trolling when I saw that on FB.
That is a top 3 worst PJ poster of all time. I can’t even think of one that’s worse at the moment.
I wouldn’t even take one for free, not worth the space in my portfolio.
Vancouver 2011...
I think this is worse
Jacksonville 2016, Hampton 2016, or Vegas 2022 are as bad
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2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
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2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
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Do we know who gets final say over what the poster looks like? Do artists get full discretion or does someone at PJ/TC have to green light the final product? I'm assuming it is the former given that we occasionally get a Vancouver Wolfmanpig and today's Denver poster but was curious if anyone knows.
the face on that poster, who the fuck would want to see that more than once....nevermind on your wall for all time
jeez
I mean, I'm no cultural expert, but that seems like a fairly common face in Asian artwork. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't have to stretch to believe that others might be into it.
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However......about 5-6 years ago, I once waited in line 2 hours for a special beer release so I should not be judging. People waiting in line has zero effect on my life so have at it!
Same with Fenway 18 - stood in a lot of outside merch lines (early!) to make sure I got my posters. When the gates opened for the actual show I could have gotten them easily. Another waste.
I’m not sure what can really be done about it at this stage. But a lot of the merch and ticket scalping that occurred as MSG had to, to some extent, be related to folks doing whatever they could to make ends meet after going above their means to afford being in attendance that night.
Tend to agree with some of these points. The band plays so few shows compared to others and you are forced to travel. Eg here in the U.K. we got only 2 shows (compared say to the Killers who did 12) so it meant many of us travelled to Amsterdam, Berlin etc to see them. Turns into quite a costly activity
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1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
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He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
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2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
jeez
Looks like it won't be a problem to snag one down the line.
I mean, I'm no cultural expert, but that seems like a fairly common face in Asian artwork. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't have to stretch to believe that others might be into it.
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
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2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
oh right maybe it’s climate change that we have no power to stop.
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI